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    Quote Originally Posted by DocStirling View Post
    Bomber in a Scottish reservoir? Must be a Stirling.:diablo:

    DS
    Nope.. Its a Twin Engine Bomber in a Scottish reservoir

    How about a Hampden?
    Weather - Fair with cloudy patches, clear by early evening.

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    Stranraer, or given that it's in a Scottish Loch, more likely a Mosquito..

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    Surely a Lerwick, but would anyone want to bring it back up to face the music?:diablo:

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    Hi
    Presumably as it is in a reservoir, it will be like those arado 196's nr russia, can't be touched for fear of contaminating the water supply with oil/fuel etc..
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    Hi Guys,

    As you'll probably have gathered, this is nothing more than a fictional story. There are no Junkers Ju88's which are still unaccounted for. All have been located, and none crashed in the vicinity of Whinhill Reservoir or the small body of water to the East.

    When they contacted me, the press were told quite plainly that I had absolutely no solid evidence of any Ju88 crash at this location. Nevertheless, they produced a feature claiming to have my support and attributed remarks to me which were not provided by me and which are contrary to the facts.

    Hope this helps clarify the issue.

    Gordon Lyons
    Air Crash Sites Scotland

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    Ardrossan

    Gordon - thanks for clarifying.

    On my grandfathers recollections on the Ardrossan reservoir - the last one before the turn off for Dalry ( i think called the Busby Muir).

    Is this a confusion with the Swordfish or any other aircraft crash in this area?
    Kind Regards,

    Brian

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    FarlamAirframes,

    I believe the wreckage of Beaufort X8938 still lies at Busbie Muir Resr. However, I have not yet researched this aircraft, so I cannot confirm this definitely.

    I'll come back on this when I get some more information.

    Gordon

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    Hi Gordon
    Do you know anything about a Spitfire that crashed into the Lake of Mentieth.
    Regards G.

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    Hi Wellington285,

    I'm aware of a crash in the Lake of Menteith, but at the moment I don't have any details as my records are still far from complete. Some reports suggest that the aircraft was recovered but I can't confirm this.

    Sorry I can't be of more help.

    Just to update: This was Spitfire P8187 of 58OTU which dived into the Lake of Menteith near Aberfoyle. No other details known at this point.

    Gordon
    Last edited by Gordon7000; 23rd July 2009 at 14:41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.Wotherspoon View Post
    ...Near to me there are a couple of similar rumours, including the proverbial lost German bomber in a reservoir...
    Seems that these rumours persist everywhere, Nick - There is supposedly a "German bomber" complete with crew in a reservoir near Shepshed...

    Actually, there was a ditching there, but it ain't German: Blackbrook Reservoir

    Don

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    Gordon

    There wasn't any mention of that crash in the No.58 OTU ORB, a fatal crash close to the airfield was mentioned on the 29th June and there was no month end accidents list for July.

    Alan

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    Here's how the war went,

    if it was 1 engine it was a Spitfire or Messerschmit
    2 engines, almost certainly German
    4 engines, Lancaster

    oh, and lakes on hills are littered with sunken aircraft.

    The end.

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    Hi Gordon
    I found my details of P8187 it crashed on 3.6.43. Was up there about 40 year ago and did attempt to look out for some locals that may have known about it, but was only passing through with my parents so didnt find any in the time i had, so it must still be there.
    Regards G.

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    ROV

    Maybe its time to make another one of these.

    It is a homebuilt ROV.

    It was designed to go down 25m and send pictures back to the surface. I made 3 different designs - the last one I sold to a marine biologist.

    Useful for exploring the bottom of lakes for fish or German bombers.

    Unfortunately the best we ever found was a lost shoe in Ullswater.
    Last edited by FarlamAirframes; 17th July 2010 at 14:10.
    Kind Regards,

    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Clark View Post
    Gordon

    There wasn't any mention of that crash in the No.58 OTU ORB, a fatal crash close to the airfield was mentioned on the 29th June and there was no month end accidents list for July.

    Alan
    Alan,

    Maybe inaccurate data. Info taken from here.

    http://www.spitfires.ukf.net/_prodn%20list.txt

    http://www.spitfires.ukf.net/squadrons.htm

    P8187 IIa CBAF MXII 45MU 14-3-41 266S 26-3-41 123S 20-9-41 58OTU 10-3-42 dived into sea of Menteith nr Aberfoyle Perths CE 3-6-43 SOC 30-6-43 FH531.40


    Gordon

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    Actually I think the date was right, there is a very brief mention.

    "On 3rd June 6 accidents occurred, but only in one case was the pilot injured."

    Not what you would call wonderful information but it is start.

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    Although pretending to be multiple different posters on this forum Steve C-T did post the Form 1180 for the Menteith Spitfire on this forum.

    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/sho...light=menteith

    Regards
    Ross
    Restorer of Canberra PR.9 XH175 and anon (but looking more like 8249) Anson Mk.II

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    Ok,I got one for you..
    Near Garreg Goch mountain,Brecon Beacons,there is a unknown identity spitfire in a bog,which is a war grave.Confirmed by locals
    Up until a few years ago the tip of the tailfin could be seen,it is now totally submerged.
    The exact location is fenced off.
    Unfortunatly google earth dont go down to ground level,but you can see the wreckage of vampire vz106,the tail booms have been arranged to represent the airframe.
    Also scan south west of Garreg Goch and you should find a Cessna/Piper high wing aircraft.
    OS map co-ords spitfire-825-179.
    vampire-828-202
    unknown-802-162
    Last edited by ade wilkes; 24th July 2009 at 22:27.

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    hi critter,

    the shepshed one is funny, many years back it was drained for repair, and guess what, no german bomber, :diablo:
    sagindragin
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    I do hope it is a Lerwick, we have none of them around. I have put a web page together about the lerwick, lots to see a read here. As you will see I do have a little connection with the aircraft.

    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clippers/in_memory.htm

    Kevin.

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    Very interesting and well researched work there Kevin.
    I didn't realise that there were two different cockpit layouts for the Lerwick, the standard side by side and the single pilot layout in a narrower cockpit, this arrangement seems odd for an AM/RAF large aircraft design of the period.

    Nice work and good to see this type remembered.

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