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    Latin American Aviation

    A classic Ryan STM Guatemalan AF (FAG) #31. Somewhere Guatemala. c.1939. Photo via E. Cassagneres.

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    Very nice pictures, guys!


    I am still waiting for my Latin American Air Wars & Aircraft book which was supposedly released a month ago. Again Ian Allan let me down...
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    Skyraider 3D:

    Tks!
    we have s few more to show. Stick around!!

    The book is a bit behind schedule..but it is coming out soon. The Ryan with the six-point-star appears to be a demo Ryan for a foreign customer.c.1938.

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    Ah interesting!

    PS. Do you know if any Razorback Thunderbolts found their way to Latin America?
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    Skyraider3D:

    We'll get bck to you with the P-47 "Razorbacks" question in 24 Hrs. Most of the P-47 Thunderbolts that came to the U.S fm Latin countries c.1970s were P-47D/P-47N models. Poss Brazil may have flown some during WW II.

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    A Fokker 227 similar to the one below, Uruguayan AF (FAU) #571 crashed on the Chilean Andes c. Oct-1972. The sample below was used in the movie "ALIVE" c. 1992. East Coast USA. Photo Via DPH.

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    Skyraider3D:

    We did some digging about the P-47 Razorbacks in Latin America.

    At least one sample was exported to the Bolivian AF. The earlier model P-47D AAF 42-8205. It never flew with Bolivian AF & ended-up as gate guardian Reg BAF 007. This particular sample came back to the U.S c.1970s and flies regularly in the U.S. It is on display at the Museum of Flight. Seattle. WA. Photo C. Gardner.



    The second poss P-47 Razorback went to Brazil c. 1944. S/N 41-6037. Brazilian AF 4103. Ended-up in in a technical school in Brazil c. 1967. Ref. P-47 T-Bolt Book. The Final Chapter via D.P. Hagedorn. c. 1990s.

    All for now!!

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    Thanks!!
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    Skyraider3D:

    Pictured below is another Ryan STM with an alleged Guatemalan AF scheme. Picture c.1938 somewhere in St Diego, Calif during testing flights.



    The criteria used by LAAHS.com to ID this particular aircraft as one of the Guatemalan AF samples is weak. It relies solely on the star diagram on the wings. In addition, none of these aircraft are shown in country showing any armament. We are still digging the origen of the 6 point star.

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    Hmmm... it does seem to lack the USAAF striping on the rudder, but it's really hard to tell.
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    SkyRaider3D:

    The picture below shows a FAG Ryan #25 with a poss 6 point star. We are trying to get a better resolution of this picture to confirm it. In addition, it now appears that the 6 point star was used on FAG aircraft during pre- WW-II era and the 5 point after WW II. Photo FAG Archives c. 1939. TNT Honduras. via D.C


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    SkyRaider3D:

    In the meantime a P-47N in FAG Scheme! Somewhere Guatemala c. 1954. FAG 0568 was a poss XPuerto Rican ANG c. 1954. Photo FAG via D.C


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    Interesting shots, thanks
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    PAA Sikorsky S-38 at St. Lorenzo Port. Southern Honduras. c. 1930s. Charles Lindberg made several flights on the S-38 surveying possible aerial routes in Central/South America. c. 1930s. Photo C/w.com


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    The beginnings of Cuban Aviation. Jose Marti Airport c. 1929. Via C/w.com



    p.s Aircraft in foreground a poss Curtiss-Robin.

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    Douglas Invader B-26B FAG 420. Poss La Aurora. Guatemala. C. 1960s. Notice the "gull grey" scheme of this aircraft. Photo via D. Celada.


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    Latin American Aviation

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    F4U-4 FAH 614/Buno 96995, C/N 9149 in one of a kind gull grey scheme. c. 1970s. Toncontin, Honduras


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    Mexican T-32 Curtiss Condors confiscated at poss Veracruz, Mexico c. 1940s before being shipped to Europe. (Poss Spain).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel
    Ecuador was one of the first latin american countries with Jets.

    English Electric Canberra Mk-6 (1954)
    Gloster Meteor FR-9 ( 1954)

    Lockheed T-33A (1956)

    Lockheed F-80 Shooting Star (1958)

    ooooo, now you've got me excited... Those Metoer FR.9s have to be in 1967... thats a pic of the Ecuadoran Aerobatic Team the Aguilas.. Do you have any more of them? or larger scans and/or a clear shot of the emblem on the fuselage. I ask because they would make wonderful reference material for my profiles...

    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/sho...433#post891433

    only other shots I've seen of them are from the AF museum - and the aircraft have seen better days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fah619
    Mexican T-32 Curtiss Condors confiscated at poss Veracruz, Mexico c. 1940s before being shipped to Europe.
    Now there's something you don't see everyday! But shipped to Europe? In 1940? How odd... Where did they go, and what happened to them?
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    Skyraider3D :

    They were supposed to be shipped to trouble Spain via Mexico c. 1940s. But never made it. One did surface in the UK? and a few others in China. Soon you''ll see some Colombian, Honduras, Argentinian samples.

    p.s The Latin American Wars book is being delayed untill Sept-06. It is packed with hundreds of photographs and war data of Latin Countries. It is worth waiting a bit!!
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    Thanks for the info and for the heads-up on the book
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    Goodyear FG-1D FAS 219 Buno XXXXX at Ilopango base c. 1965-66. This sample was 1 of 6 of the FAS acrobatic team.




    p.s FAS 219 was shot down by friendly fire near La Union port while returning from a border mission during the '69 100 Hrs War with Honduras. Cpt Echeverria was able to survive the ditching/crash. This fuselage is under apprx 200 ' of water off the coast of La Union, El Salvador.

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    Skyraider3D:

    The story of the FAG Ryans STMs 6 point star appears to have its origens at La Aurora, Guatemala, c. 1939. A former French FAG commander named Col. Henry Massot with connections to Israel decided to have a FAG star insignia similar to the Star of David painted on the 1st batch of Ryan on order at St. Diego Ryan factory.

    Ryan Factory did not make a mistake since it was an specific request of the former FAG Commander Col. Massot.




    p.s As an additional note at least 3 of these aircrafts flew over Central-America in a goodwill flight c. 1939 displaying the 6 point star under their wings!
    Last edited by fah619; 28th May 2006 at 01:05.

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    Latin American Aviation

    Pictured below is a poss Bay of Pigs c. 1960 Vet. Guatemalan AF B-26 Invader #404 now resting at La Aurora, Guatemala. Photo D.C S/N: ?


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    Goodyear FG-1D FAS 206 Buno 96653 resting al Ilopango airport, El Salvador c. 1969.
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    One of the many F4U-4s Buno 97XXX of the late Bob Bean Collection at Phoenix, AZ c. 1970s.

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    North American P-51D S/N ? FAG 315 in one of many schemes used during service. c. 1960s. Photo via D.C


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    P-51 Folks:

    A Nice looking P-51D fm S. of the Border. Guatemalan AF #336. La Aurora, Guatemala 6/2006. Photo D. Celada via c/w.com.

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    3/4 Front view of P-51D FAG 336. La Aurora, Guatemala c. 6-2006. Photo D. Celada

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