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    Franco-German next generation fighter

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Ut...youtu.be&t=192

    Germany, France to move ahead on sixth-generation combat aircraft
    https://www.defensenews.com/2018/04/...mbat-aircraft/

    Dassault To Lead Franco-German Future Combat Air System
    http://www.defenseworld.net/news/224...m#.W0hh-PkzaUk

    The first CGI of the possible design seems promising and in line with other CGI 6th gen proposal form Boeing, NG or LM...A step ahead of more traditional designs like the F35, F22 and SU-57 which are still heavily influenced by 4th gen design buth with faceted shape.
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    Notice extremely small nose either.... multifunctional panels. .. (can be seen on another slide)

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    Notice that the lining suggests it was made out of 2d sketches. This was probably not designed in 3D under Catia as this images would like to infer.
    Notice also how all the components were added to make it look more real (see again the lining that cut the conformal antennae disposed all around (the more the better?).
    Notice also that the small beak nose could suggest as Hallow imply that no radar antenna is necessary (conformal antennae).
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    I think it is out of Catia, look at the video.

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    It is out of Catia but not modeled under Catia (from sketches).

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    not sure to see your point and I don't think it is true. Anyway some work and thought have gone into it, it is not a random attempt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle1
    not sure to see your point and I don't think it is true.
    ?!

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    French President is going to have a briefing on SCAF roadmap and a demonstrator is to be ordered :

    According to our information, a working group will shortly present its "roadmap" to President Macron on the Franco-German SCAF (Future Air Combat System).

    A "plateau" gathering specialists from the Directorate General of Armament (DGA) and various staffs (Armed Forces, Air Force, Navy) is working on a classified secret-defense document. Once this one validated politically, the industrialists will join this team, then it will be the turn of the Germans, state and industrial. A "steering structure" will be put in place "before the end of the year, which should lead to the ordering of a" demonstrator ".
    https://www.lopinion.fr/blog/secret-...tualise-157095

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    The French Chief of the Air staff and one of the heads of military procurement have publicly shared their views on the next-gen air combat system:
    https://therestlesstechnophile.com/2...ombat-systems/

    Today we ask ourselves a lot of questions: Is the complement of the combat aircraft a stealthy drone that is armed or not armed – rather an ISR stealth drone – in any case there is a stealth component. To respond to an almost perfect defense we have to separate the variables and that’s why we call this a system of systems, it’s because we have to allocate different performances to each object. To penetrate the defenses you have to be stealthy, you have to be super fast and you have to be highly maneuvrable and we think that you can not have that in the same object anymore.
    So what object will be stealthy, what object will still be supersonic and maneuvering, what object is going to be not supersonic but hypersonic because we have to go even faster? We think that what is hypersonic is the missile, and that the stealthy part is the drone that follows along, and that the piloted aircraft must remain very maneuvrable and supersonic, so there are different components. Collaborative combat is the fact that all this performance is separated between several objects

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    Exellent high level conference...A must for anyone genuinely interested in the future of military aviation. Especially for the few journalists on this forum ;-) It seems that the approach will somewhat diverge with the F35. I liked the part on the F35 vs SCAF when they say the goal was to develop the techology beyhond the F35...

    They tried to put everything in one platform (F35) wich has its compromises while for the SCAF operational needs will be allocated in different objects working in real time in colaborative combat as a "system of system" helped by IA to penetrate sofisticated air defence.

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