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  1. #91
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    From that F-16.net link. The truth has a funny way of coming out. The whole western defense media has convinced itself that the Pak Fa isn't stealth (Tyler Rogoway even made a whole post about how unstealth the Pak Fa is. Which is why I don't go there anymore)But now more and more, we keep running into posts like this.

    I think it's going a bit too far to say that the SU-57 only matches a super hornet for RCS. Everything that's been said publicly about stealth design is that the shape of the aircraft is the most important consideration, and that materials are less important.

    The SU-57 beats the pants off of a shornet, rafale, typhoon or gripen or any other aircraft that was designed with only aerodynamics in mind and then stealth features added opportunistically afterward. It has planform alignment. Those other aircraft don't. The horizontal stabs are in the same plane as the wing. Not the case on other 4.5 gens. It had sawtooth panels over the weapons bays, IFR probe, landing gear, etc. Those other aircraft don't. Hell, those other aircraft don't even have internal weapons bays.


  2. #92
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    It's obviously better than SH and Tyler is an idiot.
    "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR1
    Nice:

    Fantastic, thanks!

  4. #94
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    Tyler used to write great pieces, even if a little biased at times but nothing one couldn't look past.

    Lately, his articles read like propaganda pieces written by some douche on the Pentagon's payroll

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    gonna wait for anyone doing things in the level of Carlo Kopp's stuff.

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    I <3 that blue-grey the Russians use on their planes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KGB
    From that F-16.net link. The truth has a funny way of coming out. The whole western defense media has convinced itself that the Pak Fa isn't stealth (Tyler Rogoway even made a whole post about how unstealth the Pak Fa is. Which is why I don't go there anymore)But now more and more, we keep running into posts like this.

    I think it's going a bit too far to say that the SU-57 only matches a super hornet for RCS. Everything that's been said publicly about stealth design is that the shape of the aircraft is the most important consideration, and that materials are less important.

    The SU-57 beats the pants off of a shornet, rafale, typhoon or gripen or any other aircraft that was designed with only aerodynamics in mind and then stealth features added opportunistically afterward. It has planform alignment. Those other aircraft don't. The horizontal stabs are in the same plane as the wing. Not the case on other 4.5 gens. It had sawtooth panels over the weapons bays, IFR probe, landing gear, etc. Those other aircraft don't. Hell, those other aircraft don't even have internal weapons bays.
    Link?

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    Keep your F-16.net nonsense to PMs. Not everyone here cares.



    http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/9098/rsz11rsz3807.jpg

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    A nice anti glare around the canopy glass there^
    Did they rework the mesh right behind the glass canopy?
    Thanks

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