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  1. #991
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    Brown seems popular at the moment...




    Under my gruff exterior lies an even gruffer interior...

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    Matches the grass!

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    More Images from Duxford on Thursday 12 July 2018:

    TF-51 '414251'/G-TFSI 'Contrary Mary'
    IMG_1732 by Fred Taylor, on Flickr

    IMG_3014 by Fred Taylor, on Flickr

    IMG_1743 by Fred Taylor, on Flickr

    IMG_1745 by Fred Taylor, on Flickr

    Hawker Fury I K5674/G-CBZP
    IMG_3050 by Fred Taylor, on Flickr

    IMG_3049 by Fred Taylor, on Flickr


    Flickr -- https://www.flickr.com/photos/853838...h/42652847324/
    Last edited by Rivet Joint; 12th July 2018 at 22:44.

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    Lovely photos all, thank you!

    I quite like the yellow on Contrary Mary.
    "those who know keep quiet, and those who don't are frowned upon for asking." - snafu

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    The Fiat looks gorgeous!
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  6. #996
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    It most certainly does....

  7. #997
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    That yellow band on CM canopy really helps reduce the size of the TF-51 bulbous hood. Looks good, better than its previous incarnation as Miss Velma.

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    Heads up: Red Bull aircraft should be at Dx in 15-20 mins. They left Farnborough just after lunch and were holding to the SE of the airport, whilst there was a thunderstorm, before I believe they had to put back down. They may have been held there while Donald Trump was at Sandhurst? not sure if there were flight restrictions?

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    Duxford Friday 13th July:

    By 1800, all 49 scheduled Legends participants were at Duxford (only the Lancaster and F-35 to appear !)
    Too many highlights today, but special mention for the Air Leasing team who put in a very long day indeed.
    Maybe someday I'll sort out a few photos.

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    Anyone know what the 'secret' P51 is meant to be with the F35? Or has it already been confirmed? Hun Hunter arrived in massive secrecy, was it that? Would have thought G-BIXL is the surprise one...

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    Yes, "The Hun Hunter~Texas" was the surprise USAF Heritage Flight Mustang (owned by Dan Friedkin (Comanche Fighters), the founder of the Heritage Flight and main guy behind the funding for it). I saw Dan photographed arriving with the aircraft at Duxford today.

    Thank you David for the report from today!
    Last edited by JohnTerrell; 13th July 2018 at 21:12.

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    Olly

    Yes Hun Hunter

    N351MX Hun Hunter Texas by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    Duxman
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    Perhaps summing up all those enthusiasts who embark on a pilgrimage to Legends each year and for those hard working TFC guys who put on the show for us. ??

    HB-IRJ Aero Passion by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    Duxman

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/64209520@N05/

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    Looking forward to the show tomorrow!
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    Here's a few more:










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    4 more of todays arrivals

    Classics by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    plus the largest

    OE-LDM Red Bull by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    Duxman
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/64209520@N05/

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    With a fine lineup at Legends this year, I suddenly realised something this evening.
    The show is, as seen on the poster, advertised as being a 'Royal Air Force 100' one, yet there are no representatives from the Great War, nor jets of the Post War era...A bit of a shame and an oversight perhaps?

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    No pictures yet of Trusty Rusty? PH-JAT?

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    Friday 13 July 2018.

    Some more Images of arrivals for Flying Legends 2018 (including 'Trusty Rusty'):

    F4U Corsair 124724/F-AZEG
    IMG_3097 by Fred Taylor, on Flickr

    P-51D '413305'/N351MX 'The Hun Hunter/Texas'
    IMG_3159 by Fred Taylor, on Flickr

    IMG_3161 by Fred Taylor, on Flickr

    P-51D '413578' (44-74923)/PH-JAT 'Trusty Rusty'
    IMG_3178 by Fred Taylor, on Flickr

    DC-6B OE-LDM
    IMG_3208 by Fred Taylor, on Flickr

    B-25J N6123C
    IMG_3222 by Fred Taylor, on Flickr

    F4U Corsair OE-EAS
    IMG_3220 by Fred Taylor, on Flickr

    P-38L N25Y
    IMG_3215 by Fred Taylor, on Flickr


    Flickr -- https://www.flickr.com/photos/85383837@N04/
    Last edited by Rivet Joint; 14th July 2018 at 00:00.

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    A lovely Flying Legends Eve at Duxford today - perhaps not as busy as previous years but still a highly enjoyable day watching aircraft in the sun


    Three Beechcraft and a DC-3
    AZ7Z8674 by sboreeves, on Flickr


    It must be terribly stressful doing Spitfire Engine Runs at ARCo!
    AZ7Z8655 by sboreeves, on Flickr


    Fighter Collection Hawk Threesome
    AZ7Z8741 by sboreeves, on Flickr


    Contrary Mary, North American TF51-D
    AZ7Z8765 by sboreeves, on Flickr


    Spitfire PRIX Glamour Shot.
    AZ7Z8789 by sboreeves, on Flickr


    More here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskBmgPQa
    "A Flight is much like a short life.... So is a Life just like a, er , long flight...?" - Bernard Chabbert, Flying Legends, (Saturday) 2015.

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    Anyone know which hurricanes were out on the touchline yesterday?
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    Love the first Corsair shot RJ.



    Rob

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    So wish I was there. Love new colours of former MV. Real eye popping

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    What is the quickest way to tell ( visually ) the difference between a TF-51 and a P-51 ? or is there any ?

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    Normally the bulbous canopy, or take a look inside at the fully configured rear seat and instrument panel.

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    The canopy is a fair bit longer its easier to notice if the two are parked together its much harder if they are not,
    SMOKE SMOKE GO!
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    OK cool so if i am offered a ride in the back - it needs to be a TF-51 ? otherwise its a seat and no controls/ instruments ?

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    The TF has duel controls IE like the T6 etc the others are just a 'Jump Seat' you sort of more squeeze in.
    If you get offerd a ride in anything i say take it !
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    Quite a few stock P-51D airframes with jump seats also have basic dual controls installed as well, with a stick, rudder pedals (under the pilot's seat), throttle (sometimes prop control) and a few basic instruments for the back seat, but aren't nearly as extensive as what you find in the prototypical "TF-51D", which includes a full instrument panel, all engine controls, trim controls, and flap and gear handles in the rear cockpit. The term "TF-51D" originally applied to any single seat or dual control F-51D (P-51D renamed in USAF service after 1947) that was assigned as a trainer. There were tons of stock, single-seat F-51D's that were re-designated as "TF-51D" because of their assignment as trainers, and there were also several NAA-built dual-seat "TP-51D's" that became "TF-51D's" in USAF service. The term today, however, is most/only used in reference to the configuration you see with those like "Contrary Mary", in which that configuration/modifications originated in the early 1950's with the TEMCO company, which modified a series of P-51D-25-NT Mustangs as dual control trainers for the USAF. The modifications included lengthening the cockpit section, installing a complete set of dual controls and instruments in the back, and adding a lengthened canopy.

    The airframe painted as "Contrary Mary" is all new from 1999 onward, with the fuselage constructed to the configuration of a TEMCO TF-51D. (A few TEMCO Mustangs also later went through Cavalier mods in the 60's, with extended tail fin caps added, which the original TEMCO conversions did not include.) There have been a good number of Mustangs that have been either converted or built new to the TEMCO plan over the last few decades. There were 10 NAA-built dual cockpit examples using the stock D airframe/stock-sized cockpit, and there were 15 TEMCO Mustangs, all converted from leftover P-51D-25-NT production, with the extended cockpit/canopy. Today, there are 16 TF-51D's flying (those with the full extended cockpit/dual controls/canopy), and only two are from original government contract, the rest have all been newly converted/built since the 1980's (with at least a few more on the way).
    Last edited by JohnTerrell; 14th July 2018 at 17:05.

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    Princess Liz had a stick, pedals & a throttle for the back seat, not sure if it still does?.. also happens to be the first (only?) P51 that Ed Schmued got a ride in.
    If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: It's all balls. RJM.

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