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    Nothing surprises me anymore..

    Canada scraps plan to buy Boeing fighters and will go with used Australian F-18s
    OTTAWA — Canada is scrapping a plan to buy 18 Boeing Super Hornet fighter jets amid a deepening dispute with the U.S. aerospace company, three sources familiar with the matter said on Tuesday.
    Instead, the Liberal government will announce next week it intends to acquire a used fleet of older Australia F-18 jets, the same kind of plane Canada currently operates, said the sources, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the situation.
    The move underlines Ottawa’s anger at a decision by Boeing to launch a trade challenge against Canadian planemaker Bombardier Inc., which the U.S. giant accuses of dumping airliners on the domestic American market.
    It also casts into question the future of Boeing’s military sales in Canada. Boeing says its commercial and defence operations in Canada support more than 17,000 Canadian jobs.
    Canada and Mexico are currently locked in increasingly acrimonious negotiations with the United States over the NAFTA trade pact, which President Donald Trump says has not done enough to protect U.S. jobs.
    The Liberal government initially said in late 2016 that it wanted the Boeing jets as a stopgap measure until it could launch a competition for a permanent fleet to replace Canada’s aging CF-18 jets.
    But as relations with Boeing deteriorated, Ottawa slammed the firm for not acting as a trusted partner and began looking at the Australian jets.

    Two of the sources said Australian military officials had been in Ottawa late last month for talks.
    One source said that by buying the Australian fleet, Canada would save money as well as avoid the need to train its pilots on a new aircraft or spend money on a new supply chain.
    Officials had previously said that if the purchase went ahead, some of the Australian aircraft would be used for spare parts.
    The offices of Public Works Minister Carla Qualtrough and Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan, who share responsibility for military procurement, both declined to comment.
    Source: National Post.

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    They can buy up all the baby hornets from Spain, Switzerland and Kuwait to fill their needs.

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    They can get Ukranians jets along with pilots much cheaper

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    Perfectly sensible. And exactly what I suggested previously.

    Sir Sidney Cam's famous four dimension of an aircraft.

    Sadly the actual plane which fits Canadian requirements perfectly does not exist, and all of the 'least worst' fits all come with unpalatable political baggage. This buys time as well as airframes.
    Rule zero: don't be on fire

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    Makes sense it provides temporary political cover while the Canadian government works it way back to F35.

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    I have this visual representation of Canadian defence procurement if it is a help to anybody!

    Because sometimes in life we need a bit of fun

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXNAp3mKepc

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