Key.Aero Network
Register Free

Results 1 to 21 of 21

Thread: Mustard gas found at Woodhall Spa, two injured

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    8,749

    Mustard gas found at Woodhall Spa, two injured

    Timely reminder when digging around on airfields, be careful

    http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/ne...n-after-572391

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    7,526
    Latest reports seem to have taken a 'different' turn with an arrest being reported in some local papers!

    http://www.horncastlenews.co.uk/news...-spa-1-8179981
    Find out what's happening at newarkairmuseum.org
    Please help move Chinook ZA717 to Newark Air Museum

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    7,526
    BBC Lincolnshire, now reporting a second arrest:

    "A second person has been arrested following the discovery of mustard gas canisters near Woodhall Spa.

    A woman has been arrested under suspicion of possession of a noxious substance, police have confirmed.

    It comes after the arrest of a 38-year-old man from Lincoln under suspicion of the same offence after the cannisters were found at Roughton Manor Woods at the weekend."


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-en...shire-41466872
    Find out what's happening at newarkairmuseum.org
    Please help move Chinook ZA717 to Newark Air Museum

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    7,526
    Third arrest announced & investigation widened to include a lake at Stixwould http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-41512847
    Find out what's happening at newarkairmuseum.org
    Please help move Chinook ZA717 to Newark Air Museum

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    7,526
    Latest update on the ongoing searches, which now include sonar surveys of the lake at Stixwould

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-41552907
    Find out what's happening at newarkairmuseum.org
    Please help move Chinook ZA717 to Newark Air Museum

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    2,480
    So would this have been aerial dropped WW2 ordinance. Presumably a stock pile kept in case Germany dropped it on us and was never used.
    Or would this have been some form of Home Defence measure?
    I'm guessing unlikely to be WW1.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Northern Home Counties
    Posts
    741
    Slight thread creep, but there could be an awful lot of nasty stuff around. About 12 years ago I received a call at work asking me to locate a firm that could supply a rubbish skip for delivery to a local playing field - just one stipulation, the skip had to be water-tight. Turns out workman had started a task and very soon uncovered some phospherous bombs of the definate 'home made' varity as intended for use by last-ditch defenders in case the Third Reich decided to invade Welwyn Garden City. The idea was that the Fire Brigade filled the skip with water and put the bombs in, to stop them going off. It seems to have worked.
    plain old vanilla

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    1,547
    I'm a little bit surprised by the arrests, but I assume there are quite a few gaps in the reporting. I've read that the accused were simply looking for 'old bottles' and then dug up containers of mustard gas, leading to arrests!

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    8,749
    It is a chemical weapon and will kill you, it is really nasty stuff.. and the effects of it are horrendous, also i think you will find some was removed from site from what I have read. So you are then in possession of a chemical weapon... hence arrests.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Berkshire
    Posts
    490
    hampden98
    I'm guessing unlikely to be WW1.
    A north Hampshire Army training area still has unknown quantities of mustard gas left over from WWI buried in unkown areas on site, said to be too dangerous/too big a site to go looking for it .
    Wide open & turning left

  11. #11
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Aerospace Valley
    Posts
    4,430
    All sorts of nasties out there, when I lived in Cambridge there was an area on Milton Road that was known as the "Anthrax Site". No building allowed etc.
    If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: It's all balls. RJM.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    7,526
    A further update from Woodhall Spa, reveals further possible mustard gas finds!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-41571252
    Find out what's happening at newarkairmuseum.org
    Please help move Chinook ZA717 to Newark Air Museum

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    118
    #6 hampden98. I cannot find the reference now in Alanbrooke (Chief of the Imperial General Staff) "War Diaries" but somewhere there is a discussion between him and Churchill after the event that Churchill was prepared to order the use of chemical weapons if the Germans had landed in 1940. Someone here will know more. I seem to recall somewhere from the greater depths of my failing mind that Lysanders would have been used for aerial drops.

    Someone might be able to indicate whether the storage site was possibly a WW1 training area before the RAF use of the site?

    The forthcoming press conference might reveal detail or dismiss the latter.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    118
    I wish I had bothered to do a bit more research before writing the previous, it would have saved you reading it. This Independent article is a good summary of the situation I think, for the lay reader, outlining the widespread storage of mustard gas in WW2 at RAF bases.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...d-1335343.html

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    2,480
    There was an interesting documentary on tv some years ago where they took you inside a chemical disposal centre in the UK which was primarily setup to dispose of WW1 shells including gas.
    The bombs were xrayed to determine their load then chopped open in a sealed environment using a saw and the gas or explosive removed before being rendered safe.
    What was interesting was the WW1 Detectives series on tv (the one with the Canadian dudes) seemed to imply that gas bombs found in France are buried and then just blown up.
    I wonder if the UK site was also looking for biological weapons?

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Kent.UK
    Posts
    1,722
    That TV programme was about Porton Down. They were even dealing with weapons from overseas.
    mmitch.

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Harlow Essex
    Posts
    1,497
    Airfield plans for RAF Sawbridgeworth show a Gas munitions Store, Temporary Brick construction and square in design. 2(AC)Squadron were based here with Lysanders from 1940 to 41 and according to the squadron history were considered for anti invasion duties.
    Hertfordshire Airfields Memorial Group
    http://hamg.co.uk

    Hunsdon, Sawbridgeworth and Matching Green airfields..
    http://www.wartime-airfields.com

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    8,749
    Ahhh Porton Down, I remember throughout my career they used to advertise for people to go there to be Guinea pigs for the cure for the common cold... I always thought it was a barmy idea to volunteer for it and it was proved right years later when it was found they were testing nerve agents I believe.

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    7,526
    Updates coming out of the public meeting(s) in Woodhall Spa tonight - details in here!

    http://www.horncastlenews.co.uk/news...ting-1-8194722
    Find out what's happening at newarkairmuseum.org
    Please help move Chinook ZA717 to Newark Air Museum

  20. #20
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Aerospace Valley
    Posts
    4,430
    ooer missus!

    It is believed the canisters date from WW2 and had possible kinks with the home guard units.
    If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: It's all balls. RJM.

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    7,526
    Site decontamination work scheduled to start next week!

    http://lincolnshirereporter.co.uk/20...contamination/
    Find out what's happening at newarkairmuseum.org
    Please help move Chinook ZA717 to Newark Air Museum

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

 

- Part of the    Network -

KEY AERO AVIATION NEWS

MAGAZINES

AVIATION FORUM

SHOP

 

WEBSITES