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    As long as Erdogan is in control, I wouldn't be surprised if Turkey never sees an F-35 inside its borders.

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    Don't be so pessimistic, it will get operational at some point.

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    You mean like... now?
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    Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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    As long as Erdogan is in control, I wouldn't be surprised if Turkey never sees an F-35 inside its borders.
    Personally, I wish that were true. Unfortunately, I don't think this Congress will piece together a coherent response to the noise coming out of Turkey. A pause in cooperation would be a welcome measure right now (something short of a complete arms ban, or suspension from NATO, or the usual sanctions that would be toothless due to EU resistance).

    A pause in deliveries and cooperation of Turkey in the F-35 program would send the right message.

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    I would agree. The USAF could well use some of those production slots, and there are always other regional customers that could be looked at as potential operators if the current administration decides to have another look at this and take a political decision to negotiate F-35 sales to other customers in the ME (besides Israel).
    Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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    There is no shortage of production slots, only a shortage of the willingness to spend money.
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    There is no shortage of production slots, only a shortage of the willingness to spend money.
    Turkish jets are already in the production pipeline and you can get deliveries much earlier than you would if you asked for more each year. Regardless, what I meant was that the USAF would prefer more aircraft but can't given their internal budgets. If the Congress were to just hand them the cash to buy some or all of these aircraft on account of canceling the deal to supply Turkey (i.e. a Political decision) the USAF will gladly accept them because there is a need and the leadership has long said that they'll take the maximum their budgets can allow (which is still below the annual buy rate where they need to be strategically).
    Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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    JSF in the mix for UAE

    The UAE has evaluated a number of fighter aircraft including the Dassault Rafale, Boeing’s Advanced Super Hornet and Advanced F-15 and the Eurofighter Typhoon.
    Emirati attention now seems to have switched back to the Advanced F-15, already entering service with the Royal Saudi Air Force as the F-15SA and now ordered by Qatar as the F-15QA. These orders promise to keep the F-15 production line out to 2022.

    Following a meeting between US Defence Secretary, James Mattis, and Sheikh Mohammad Bin Zayed Al Nahyan, deputy supreme commander of the UAE Armed Forces and Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi, reports emerged of renewed Emirati interest in the F-15, possibly as part of a two-phase deal that would also see the UAE Air Force eventually acquiring the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. In March, it was reported that the crown prince had received reassurances from US President, Donald Trump, about the possibility of the UAE acquiring fifth generation fighter jets.

    A host of new capabilities have been added to the F-15 through the development of advanced derivatives of the F-15E Strike Eagle for South Korea (F-15K Slam Eagle), Singapore (F-15SG) and Saudi Arabia, as well as via upgrade and modernisation programmes for USAF F-15C/D Eagle fighters and F-15E Strike Eagle fighter-bombers. Any new Advanced F-15 customer can now opt for active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, new cockpit displays (including F-35 type large area displays), helmet-mounted sighting and display systems, advanced new electronic warfare and self protection systems, conformal fuel tanks and even a new wing with a longer fatigue life and two additional under-wing hardpoints, while the aircraft is compatible with a wide variety of advanced weapons.

    A number of low-observable (stealth) features were developed under the F-15SE Silent Eagle programme, including conformal weapons bays for internal weapons carriage and a number of radar cross-section (RCS) reduction features, most obviously including canted tailfins. Though none of these features have been incorporated in the Saudi F-15SAs, and are not thought to be featured on the Qatari aircraft, they remain notionally available to other customers, including the UAE.

    The aircraft’s raw performance remains impressive, even by modern standards, and it has a very useful payload range capability. Especially when coupled with advanced stand-off weapons, the Advanced F-15 gives its operators semi-strategic reach. This may not be enough for the UAE, however, whose MBDA Black Shaheen cruise missile is an export variant of Storm Shadow and has a range of approximately 300 nautical miles (560 km) – roughly twice the range of the AGM-84H/K SLAM-ER, which is the main stand-off weapon offered with Advanced F-15 export versions.
    The USAF is currently upgrading and modernising its Eagles, preparing them for further service, and including the integration of BAE Systems’ Eagle passive active warning survivability system (EPAWSS) on 400 F-15Es and F-15Cs.

    The F-15C is now expected to remain in service until replaced by the next generation penetrating counter-air (PCA) platform, which is scheduled to reach initial operational capability in the mid- to late 2020s.
    Steve Parker, Boeing’s vice-president of F-15 programmes, reportedly said that though PCA would be a new platform, any Boeing PCA candidate aircraft would feature technology developed on the F-15 and hinted that the aircraft’s outer mould line could be changed very easily, and that PCA would be “different from a wrapper perspective”.
    But for the UAE, any F-15 purchase could prove to be an interim step, since the UAE Air Force and Air Defence wants to acquire the fully fifth generation F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.
    But the F-35 may not be the only fifth generation option for the UAE.

    At the IDEX 2017 show in Abu Dhabi, Russian media reported the signing of a military and industrial cooperation agreement between the UAE and Russia, including the “creation, development and supply of a fifth-generation fighter jet” to fly some time after 2025.This could see the UAE supporting and part-funding the Russian lightweight multi-role fighter (LMFS) programme, which aims to produce a replacement for the MiG-29. Russian sources also reported Emirati interest in the Sukhoi Su-35, though many western analysts believe that any talks between the UAE and Russia are principally intended as a means of applying leverage on the US to ensure access to the F-35.
    Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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    Israel would need to sign-off on any F-35 for UAE deal.
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    bio best F-35 photo i've seen. The ird looks nearly nice!

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    Who is Israel?

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    Israel would need to sign-off on any F-35 for UAE deal.
    I would be surprized Israel is mentioned.
    UAE is funding Egypt , Saudis funding Sudan, Qatar funding Turkey. Everyone is diversifying. US certainly needs those exports.

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    Part of the deal with Iran, Israel, and the F-35s is that for the foreseeable future, no other ME country gets the F-35 apart from Israel.
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    that deal is irrelevant as far as other Middleast countries are concerned.
    Egypt/Saudi/UAE will simply not tolerate Isreal or Turkey getting more advanced weopons or getting any importance.
    Egypt was invited to BRICS summit in China. Putin spend 4 days with Saudi King. they know exactly the importance of Arab world. start with reserve currrency.

    F-35 is built with imported components and designed for higher production rates to keep cost down. those variables will be tested just like F-22 production in previous economic cycle.

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    To convince Israel and its supporters in Congress that the White House truly "has its back" with respect to threats posed by Iran, US President Barack Obama and top Cabinet officials have repeatedly flagged the fact that Israel is the exclusive regional recipient of the F-35, America's premier stealth strike fighter.

    "Indeed, Israel is the only nation in the Middle East to which the United States has sold this fifth-generation aircraft," Obama wrote in a letter last month to Rep. Jerold Nadler, a New York democrat representing the largest Jewish district in the country.

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    Beyond billions of dollars in additional grant aid and a menu of military modernization needs, experts here said Netanyahu should squeeze out definitive assurances that Israel will remain the exclusive regional operator of the F-35 for years to come.

    How long?

    "Forever," quipped retired Maj. Gen. Amos Gilad, the Israeli Defense Ministry's longtime director of policy and political-military affairs who leads QME-related talks with the Pentagon and State Department.

    In a Sept. 7 exchange following a conference address here, Gilad refused to say whether a Mideast moratorium on F-35 exports will be an agenda item in bilateral talks on bolstering Israel's QME. "They said officially that they won't sell to anybody [in the region] but Israel," Gilad told Defense News.
    https://www.defensenews.com/air/2015...-dibs-on-f-35/
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    Here is more information about the F-35 hack in Australia, from the BBC News Channel.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-41590614

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClanWarrior View Post
    Here is more information about the F-35 hack in Australia, from the BBC News Channel.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-41590614
    Commercial data only.

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    F-35A arrives at Eielson for testing


    An F-35A Lightning II landed at Eielson AFB Oct 12 to participate in testing several aspects of the fifth-generation fighter aircraft.

    This test’s purpose has two major outcomes: certifying the Norwegian drag-chute and demonstrating that the entire fleet of F-35As are capable of landing at a runway condition reading (RCR) of 7.

    The RCR scale is based on how wet and dry each runway is. A RCR 23 is considered a dry runway while an RCR 5 is compared to landing on ice.

    “The F-35A is currently certified to land at an RCR of 12,” said Capt. Daniel Campbell, the 354th Fighter Wing F-35 PIO director of mission support. “This test is important to the base because it will help certify the F-35A to operate at an RCR of 7. The 354th Civil Engineer Squadron and 354th Operations Support Squadron try to keep our runway at an RCR of 12 or better during the harsh winters, but often are below that. We need the lower RCR certification to ensure the F-35A can operate throughout our winters.”

    In April 2016, it was officially announced the base was scheduled to receive two squadrons of F-35As as well as approximately 3,500 Airmen, contractors and their families. Construction began in early 2017 for projects regarding the F-35As arrival.

    According to Kevin Blanchard, the 354th FW F-35 PIO director, in addition to the F-35 flight simulator that was started in March 2017, a contract for a propulsion maintenance hangar, addition for the maintenance field training detachment, and several other projects have been awarded to various companies.

    Eielson will continue to prepare for the 2020 arrival of the F-35As while still completing the primary mission of prepare, deploy and enable. As always, the Icemen Team will remain “Ready to go at 50 below!”
    Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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    i do not know this site so i donnot endorse. However, it seems that a F-35 is grounded either due to bird strike or SA-5

    https://southfront.org/israel-hiding...ssile-reports/

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    i do not know this site so i donnot endorse. However, it seems that a F-35 is grounded either due to bird strike or SA-5

    https://southfront.org/israel-hiding...ssile-reports/
    It's a junk site. I saw that reported on twitter via "Southfront" too. Like the earlier reports of Israeli F-35's bombing S-300 sites in Syria, there is little chance that Israel is using their small F-35 fleet operationally yet, and even a lesser chance that an unrelated "bird strike" claim was really a missile hit.

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    But we should let the usual suspects carry on with their anti-f-35 conspiracy theories.
    Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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    U.S. Air Force's F-35A Lightning II scheduled for first operational deployment to Indo-Asia-Pacific


    Approximately 300 Airmen and 12 F-35A Lightning IIs from Hill Air Force Base, Utah’s 34th Fighter Squadron are set to deploy to Kadena Air Base, Japan for a six month rotation. The aircraft and supporting personnel are scheduled to arrive at Kadena in early November.

    This marks U.S. Pacific Command’s first operational tasking for the F-35A and builds upon the U.S. Air Force fifth-generation stealth fighter’s successful debut in the Indo-Asia-Pacific at the Seoul International Aerospace & Defense Exhibition (ADEX) earlier this month.

    “The F-35A gives the joint warfighter unprecedented global precision attack capability against current and emerging threats while complementing our air superiority fleet,” said Gen. Terrence J. O’Shaughnessy, Pacific Air Forces commander. “The airframe is ideally suited to meet our command’s obligations, and we look forward to integrating it into our training and operations.”

    The F-35A is being deployed under U.S. PACOM’s theater security package (TSP) program, which has been in operation since 2004. This long-planned deployment is designed to demonstrate the continuing U.S. commitment to stability and security in the region.

    While a first in-theater for the F-35A, the U.S. Marine Corps F-35B variant has been stationed at Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni, Japan since January, 2017.
    Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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    New hypoxia like symptoms at Luke http://aviationweek.com/defense/f-35...poxia-episodes
    Edit apparently not real hypoxia (see text)
    Last edited by halloweene; 26th October 2017 at 16:02.

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    F-35s Hobbled by Parts Shortages, Slow Repairs, Audit Finds

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rs-audit-finds

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    Despite the shortage of parts, the program is still proving better reliability than current goals.



    Does anyone else find it odd that Bloomburg does not link tot he actual report so that we can look at their source, in context?
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    @Halloween:

    degrading readiness” because the fighter jets “were unable to fly about 22 percent of the time” from January through August for lack of needed parts.
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    ...




    And you didn't laugh?!!


    on another point, I found that one interesting (thanks):

    “When you look over the life-cycle” cost “of most of our programs, it’s about 70 percent on the sustainment side. So we need to get that right.”
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