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    Why is JSR even allowed to post his total garbage? The "boxy" F-15C accelerate better than your Su-27. Instead of addressing the problem of JSR, KGB, OooShiny, etc, the mods instead delete entire Su-57 thread because the rest of us need to be punished for these idiots' garbage.
    Cause none of you can't be bothered with applying the wonderful IGNORE function on this forum.
    And instead embark on the futile road of replying these troll posters, which in turn gives them more fuel to carry on.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadDisconnect View Post
    Why is JSR even allowed to post his total garbage? The "boxy" F-15C accelerate better than your Su-27. Instead of addressing the problem of JSR, KGB, OooShiny, etc, the mods instead delete entire Su-57 thread because the rest of us need to be punished for these idiots' garbage.
    And you handsomely took the bait. I was wondering who would be the 1st to fall for it. Ignore function help (somewhat) or just resist the urge to respond.

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    Modified KJ-500 with IFR probe.
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    Future Y-20 based tanker
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    Quote Originally Posted by haavarla View Post
    Cause none of you can't be bothered with applying the wonderful IGNORE function on this forum.
    And instead embark on the futile road of replying these troll posters, which in turn gives them more fuel to carry on.
    They will keep posting even if they’re ignored and it looks very bad if no one challenge their nonsense. To everyone else it looks like we are accepting their garbage.

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    They will keep posting even if they’re ignored and it looks very bad if no one challenge their nonsense. To everyone else it looks like we are accepting their garbage.
    instead of showing some technical competence in reply. you post irrelevant stuff. Flanker like Su-27SM easily designed for 8 tons load that I hinted in previous post.that mean advance FBW easily implemented for extreme agility as airframe is strong enough for endurance under loads and turns. F-15C has none of those features. it is unsustainable in loads like carrying 10AAMs Meteor class or R-77-1.

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    They will keep posting even if they’re ignored and it looks very bad if no one challenge their nonsense. To everyone else it looks like we are accepting their garbage.
    As i suspected. You are missing the whole point here..
    Me, i don't have to read any of JSR, KGB, oooshiny etc post. They are hidden from me.

    Cause that is what the Ignore function do.
    So i'm not accepting anything. I just choose to read the post from members i value.

    But ofcourse when you guys quote them in your reply, i'm forced to see it.. the senseless notion of believing they will learn something or see things in another perspective.
    Thrust me, they wont. For me they are all bots.
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    Thanks

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    Je pense, donc je suis.

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    J-20 HMD:
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    Via LKJ86 : Source
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    Via LKJ86: Link-1, Link-2

    Su-35
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    More Su-35
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    Larger res of what surfaced earlier, Kamov Project 941, the design that led to the Z-10:















    Source:

    http://otvaga2004.ru/tiv/kak-firma-k...rnyj-vertolet/
    http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/9098/rsz11rsz3807.jpg

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    What a gorgeous design. Comparing that the Z10 is like concept car to production model.

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    Thanks for the Kamov connection to the Z-10 Tri!
    although doesn't look like your typical Kamov design.

    you have any more information on Russian assistance for the Y-20 and J-20?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR1 View Post
    ...
    Damn that thing looks good. The closest the Z-10 came to that design are the early prototypes. This won't happen until more powerful turboshafts are available.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J-20 View Post
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    you have any more information on Russian assistance for the Y-20 and J-20?
    IIRC, Antonov supposed to have designed/develop the wings of the Y-20 (or at least certain aspects of the wing).

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    Not just the wings AFAIK:

    https://www.aviaport.ru/conferences/...5.html#p407978

    But much of the initial design. Though the poster also claims only 70-80% of the capabilities of the 2004 design were actually met partially because of its old engines.
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    So how come the Russians didn't develop the Kamov design and sold it to the Chinese instead?

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    IIRC, Antonov supposed to have designed/develop the wings of the Y-20 (or at least certain aspects of the wing).
    Antonov certainly designed the wings on China's Comac ARJ21 airliner.

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    Because the Ka-52 and Mi-28 exist. MOD has no desire for lighter weight attack helos either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha Bravo View Post
    So how come the Russians didn't develop the Kamov design and sold it to the Chinese instead?
    They already had Ka-50 and Mi-28 designs way back.

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    J-20: Weapons bay doors open and PL-10 visible


    J-20: Close-ups, especially the IRST




    J-20: Fresh out of the factory


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    Divine Eagle HALE UAV taken flight




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    J-20:


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    HQ footage of J-20, J-16, J-10C


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    China and Russia actually benefit from selling each other monkey model J-20s and Su-57s. The J-20 and Su-57 have different strengths and weakneses, and a combination of the two of them would be harder to counter than a simple J-20 or Su-57 force. For the RuAF, J-20s could function as stealthy spotters for their Su-57s. For the PLAAF, Su-57s could function to assist clean-up after the merge, or to carry long-range interception or anti-ship missiles.

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    We have a pretty good view on the double octogonal split air outlets (the yellow J-20).

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    More of the same but with bit more footage


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