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    Syria Has Given the Russian Army a Rare Chance to Hone and Modernize Its Weapons

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    Actually the subcontractors that build the tiniest parts have no clue what their contribution to the project does. They are just making parts to match design specs. The key is the tight control of the specs. You're actually improving your fundamental manufacturing base with this strategy, not wasting it.

    You are aware that most of Russian Heavy Industry is heavily senterlized(Money saved on time and transportation).
    There is no chance in hell that there will be a competitive domestic market of many different company for such USA sub-supplier style here.
    This stuff will in any case going to take several decades to improve and change upon.

    But lets talk about the Pros of the way the Russian way of producing their sh!t. The Russian State is very much involved on the execitive ownership of all the companies.

    Altough there is now more room for Private ownership, as in some cases the Russian State has sold out large stakes.
    But still, there is a Russian State Whatchdog that are making sure the different Plants are not above a mere 6% profit line in terms of all domestic military orders.
    If they do, they get penalties, or Execitives will be forced to leave their positions for trying to suck funding out of the State. Its a strict regime.. but it seems to work.

    Point in Case, look at the bang for the bucks they get on their hardware.

    And when export comes their way, they can negotiate a higher profit margin.
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    Actually the subcontractors that build the tiniest parts have no clue what their contribution to the project does. They are just making parts to match design specs. The key is the tight control of the specs. You're actually improving your fundamental manufacturing base with this strategy, not wasting it.
    you are never going to improve manufacturing base rather adding army of bean counters aka cost accountants, lawyers (each firm will defend there position if there is dispute) sales people, transportation, security.
    see hourly rise in house prices where F-35 built. no amount of Six sigma can solve it.
    http://www.star-telegram.com/news/bu...208686634.html
    Why bother working? Your house could be making more money than you do
    Canadian PM statement that Canada provide steel and aluminium for US weopon industry. now Canada is in North. Canadian making money out of US are likely buying stuff from China. I don't think MIG need this six sigma until this point.

    you can see this efficiency in transporting attack helicopters over long distance with fuel tanks. let see how many choppers can do that. it shows strong manufacturing base.


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    If you're worried about cost of a home in America you live in the wrong place, because you chose where to live. And our highway system and low gasoline/deisel prices make it rather negligible to drive 45 minutes to an hour to commute to work. In more urbanized areas you might commute 90 or more if you want a cheaper home. The only problem is self imposed. The F-35 is a 50 states wide jobs program. The industrial base is immune to anything save for cataclysmic interruptions. Most importantly, because the subcontracting is farmed out with minimal input from 3rd parties, the parts are solely built off serialized spec sheets without revealing information to the provider other than parts numbers and critical design specifications, its practically impossible for anyone but the actual design house to use political cronyism. And because it would be so costly as a winning bidder on the main contract to get caught up in politics, it becomes a solely results driven venture. Small minds cannot grasp these big picture goals.
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    http://www.121arz.ru/fotogid/fotogid.html

    Some good photos from the 121st ARZ. They started work repairing Yak-130s (the early Sokol batch), and apparently have a pretty large number of Su-25s on hand, including a batch of SM3s, the one UBM, and others.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3226454.html

    Some preliminary work on a potential An-124 replacement, "Elephant".
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    Good Interview on Superjet Program

    "We are switching to new materials and other aerodynamics"

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    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3226454.html

    Some preliminary work on a potential An-124 replacement, "Elephant".
    In between Ruslan and Mryia. cool. This where PD-35 will come handy i see

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    @ TR1

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3226454.html

    Some preliminary work on a potential An-124 replacement, "Elephant".
    It looks good but got some questions:

    1: According to this image, the max weight the An-225 can carry is 200 tons but i thought its max was 250?

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    2: Whatever happend to the PAK-TA?

    3: If either PAK-TA or this plane is chosen to replace the An-124's, how many are being planned to be purchased?

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    According to this image, the max weight the An-225 can carry is 200 tons but i thought its max was 250?
    This "record weight", the An-124 lifted 171,219 tons to a height of 10,750 meters

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    .... and to save having to load and reload pallets of metal ingots during the various record-breaking flights, Antonov hit upon the idea of using 'self-loading weights' - in the form of FIVE 50-ton tanks (IIRC T-72 and T-80)

    There are photos out there of the five tanks arrayed in front of the An-225.

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    KRET unveils N025E mast-mounted helicopter radar

    http://www.janes.com/article/80590/k...licopter-radar
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    Speaking of the Antonov An-124... The chief designer of both this aircraft and the legendary An-225, Victor Ilyich Tolmachyov passed away today:
    https://www.facebook.com/alexey.rogo...14233733615450

    Tolmachyov, a native Muscovite, lived and worked in Ulyanovsk with the Volga-Dnepr An-124 fleet and the Aviastar maintenance facilities. R.I.P.

    Reminds me though, upon hearing the news about a potential Ruslan reboot, Ukraine yesterday said that building something like the An-124 or this "Slon"/Elephant is impossible without the Kiev bureau's "expertise".

    A statement I find kind of curious if I may say so, considering that most An-124's were built in Russia and indeed the last new An-124 rolled out of Aviastar in Ulyanovsk as late as 2004. To my knowledge, none were built in Kiev after 1993 or so... Add to that the fact that key people like the aforementioned Tolmachyov had nothing to do with the Kiev bureau after the collapse of the USSR, but stayed in Ulyanovsk, and the fact that the by far biggest operators of the An-124 are the Russian Air Force and Volga-Dnepr, and all their maintenance and refurbishing etc. takes place in Russia (in Ulyanovsk...). I'd be surprised if they didn't know "how"...

    The only thing that is a problem are the engines, as there are no domestic "D-18-class" turbines available at present.
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    @Dr.Snufflebug:

    Totally agree. Those planes were designed by companies and scientific institutions of the USSR, many if not most of them in present Russia (didn't knew that bit about the lead designer being from Moscow, thanks) therefore the know-how to maintain, build and modify the plane is for sure available even when it will be needed to gather and put all the pieces together. The big issue is the legal aspect, since for instance Volga-Dnieper was lifting cargo for NATO and all the Western-related contracts will surely be threatened if they take planes built by Russia against the will of Ukraine. Apparently they are establishing a company in Germany, the rumours are that this would allow to circumvent Antonov's denial to cooperate with Russia to keep the planes flightworthy, but may also be useful in case Russia restarts the production under a different name (old, Russian-operated An-124 could be sold to this company and maintained by Antonov while the VTA and Volga-Dnieper proper can buy newly produced units)

    Regarding the engines, the gas-generator from the improved NK-32 for the Tu-160M2 has been mentioned several times as the basis of a new high-bypass engine for the An-124. This should be the famous PD-30, do you have any information about its state of development? The PD-35 is IMO too far in the future.

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    If you're worried about cost of a home in America you live in the wrong place, because you chose where to live. And our highway system and low gasoline/deisel prices make it rather negligible to drive 45 minutes to an hour to commute to work. In more urbanized areas you might commute 90 or more if you want a cheaper home. The only problem is self imposed.
    use automobile to make cost of living lower?. Is the Tyre industry not dependent on rubber and all the energy chemicals needed to produce it. Isnt that waste of labor? I can show you 100 other inputs like clean water supply losses.
    The F-35 is a 50 states wide jobs program. The industrial base is immune to anything save for cataclysmic interruptions.
    each small sub contractor will have bank loan to keep them afloat. And they will need audited financial statements to get the loans from the banks. Its big finance operations to keep the subcontractors afloat. On top of that it is 50% built outside US. and it will have to deal with cost of transport and currency fluctuation.
    Most importantly, because the subcontracting is farmed out with minimal input from 3rd parties, the parts are solely built off serialized spec sheets without revealing information to the provider other than parts numbers and critical design specifications, its practically impossible for anyone but the actual design house to use political cronyism. And because it would be so costly as a winning bidder on the main contract to get caught up in politics, it becomes a solely results driven venture. Small minds cannot grasp these big picture goals.
    create so big numbers of sub contractors. you are creating vast layer of management across the firms that try squeeze profits from each other.

    less landing. less stress on airframe and tyres. This is called flying six sigma for attack and transport with same engine.



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    Total ~ 70 Ka-226 Operational as of date

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    Can someone identify the pod carried on the left inboard station? Is it an escort jamming pod?

    It's a MiG-21M from No 35 Rapiers squadron of IAF.
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    That the EW squadron of Mig-21 operating some kind of Swedish Jamming pod
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    There should be 50 in VKS service by now.
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    @stealthflanker Jan 30 2017 article stated a 2 year time for the production of mig-35s. Doubt there is going to be any information until than especially the LTCC version. I am curious about the watts for the modules of the LTCC version(exceeding 5 watts does not cut it for me) and the NO36.

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    A prototype of the all-composite aircraft STR-40DT will be shown at the end of the year



    A prototype of the 19-seat all-composite aircraft STR-40DT, developed at the Siberian Scientific Research Institute of Aviation (SibNIA) named after SA Chaplygin, will be presented by the end of 2018. The aircraft will be adapted for the harsh conditions of the Russian North and can fly for a distance of up to 4000 km. This was toldTASS scientific supervisor of SibNIA Alexei Seryoznov.

    "By the end of the year, we will demonstrate a prototype of a 19-seat aircraft, which will be adapted for Russian conditions, and its service will be no more than $ 250 per hour, like a similar US airplane." Now the world's aircraft maintenance costs about $ 1,500 per hour, "said he.

    Seriousov specified that the class of 19-seat aircraft in Russia has not yet been submitted. According to him, such a plane will be in demand for the northern regions of the country, for example, in Yakutia. "Now Canadian planes fly there, our plane will be able to travel long distances and will be more suitable for flights in the cold," he added.

    "Aviation of Russia" has already talked about a new aircraft, which is being developed in SibNIA on the basis of a Soviet light jet for local airlines Yak-40. Work on the all-composite aircraft STR-40DT with capacity for 19 seats began in 2013 at the request of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia within the framework of the Federal Target Program "Development of Civil Aviation Equipment in Russia for 2002-2010 and for the Period until 2015".

    STR-40DT will completely repeat the aerodynamic scheme of its predecessor: it is a twin-engine, all-composite, monoplane with a trapezoidal wing, a T-shaped tail unit with a significant excess over the fuselage. The Yak-40 wing has an elongation of 8.93 and a span of 25 m. Obviously, the new integral-wing wing will have a much longer elongation, so that it is possible to fly over long distances - up to 4000 km.

    Main technical characteristics of STR-40DT:

    Empty weight - 6500 kg
    the maximum weight is 13000 kg
    number of passengers - 19-32 people
    flight range - 4000 km
    altitude of the flight is 9500-10000 m
    running start - 800 m
    mileage - 600 m
    carrying capacity - 3200 kg
    the cruising speed is 650-700 km / h
    fuel consumption - 500-550 kg / h

    The developed aircraft is a demonstrator of the capabilities of polymer composite materials technologies when used in light turbojet passenger aircraft at high flight speeds (600-700 km / h). In the framework of the state order, the Institute carried out studies of PKM technologies in aircraft construction, allowing 2-3 times to increase the productivity of new aircraft and to reduce the cost of their production by 50%. Obtained demonstrators are a by-product not intended for commercial use. They only confirm the possibility of developing and constructing a fully composite production vehicle with the required flight characteristics, as well as characteristics of strength and economic efficiency.
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    Flanker in 4K anyone?

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    Random question: How come the KJ2000 (the Chinese "A-50") has two massive ventral fins for stability, whereas the A-50/50U doesn't?

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    It's just the way it is with their flight control system, Dr. Snufflebug. Some of the A-50's have them too. Check out India's.

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    The Russian Ministry of Defense received the second Tu-214PU-SBUS

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    Lanky landing gear and a sleek fuselage. Beauitiful. Kinda has that bear look ; the Russian look

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    The Russian Air Campaign in Syria A Preliminary Analysis

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    In the latest Air International.
    There was an updated article covering VKS force and structure development.

    As i have stated several times in the past, VKS now operate a very small number of legacy 9.12 Mig-29 jets.
    Only now, it seems that those numbers are even lower.

    If we exclude the Navy Mig-29K/KUB and the 28 Mig-29SMT delivered in 2015 and 2016. And the former ex-Algerian 34 SMT's.
    Then there are only one full Sq of legacy Mig-29 left in Russian AF. Namely the Frontline Erebuni AirBase in Aremenia. Pluss a few units at Liptesk and Astrakhan training senter.

    Most former Mig-29 pilots have now been re-trained for different Flanker Air Regiments.

    The Mig-35 are still awaiting production order..
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    Add to this^^, there are now 830 combat jets within VKS today, spread around 5HQ District in Russia.


    Within these district, the modernized and new build units now comprise of 70-80% total.

    I suspect it contains every minor upgrade such as Su-24M's SVP-24 etc.

    As for Flankers, there are only 50 non-upgraded Su-27P/UB left in service, spread across VKS.
    An order for 36 Su-27SM3 upgrade of legacy Flankers was signed back in mid-2015, in which a few has already been delivered.
    These units was produced in the mid-80's and still have lots of life left. They will be overhauled with 40 years and 2000hour extension in the same contract.
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    Hunter-B rolled out:

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3253886.html

    Vykatka of the demonstrator of the shock S-70 unmanned aerial vehicle on research of "Okhotnik-B"

    As has reported on June 28, 2018 the Interfax agency, the first Russian heavy shock UAV of experimental design bureau "Dry" "Hunter" came to the final stage of ground tests. The informed source has reported about it to Interfax.

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    "At the Novosibirsk aircraft factory (NAZ, branch of the Sukhoi company - IF) the first vykatka of the shock Hunter UAV has taken place - he passes ground tests in anticipation of the first departure", - the interlocutor of the agency has told.

    "The first flight of "Hunter" is expected in 2019", - I have noted a source.

    The director of directorate of programs of military aircraft of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), the ex-commander-in-chief of the Air Force of Russia Vladimir Mikhaylov has reported about the research works on creation of the heavy shock UAV which are conducted in experimental design bureau "Dry" in 2014.

    "Now works are conducted, we do work on "Dry", "Hunter" is called. This car very perspective, goes research work till 2015, with the subsequent transition to developmental works now", - Mikhaylov on air of Echo of Moscow radio station has told.

    Characteristics of the developed UAV don't reveal now. According to open data, his take-off weight will be 20 tons that will make it the heaviest of the developed devices of this type. It was reported that for the first time he will fly up in 2018, and in 2020 it will be taken advantage.

    In 2017 the photo of "Hunter" which is cut out from the presentation of the Russian Defense Ministry judging by which, the device is developed according to the scheme of "the flying wing" with the three-rack-mount chassis has been distributed in the Internet.

    Earlier informed interlocutor of Interfax has reported about tests of the heavy shock Altius-O UAV weighing more than 7,5 tons developed by the Kazan experimental design bureau of Simonov.

    The Deputy CEO of Tekhmash (enters into Rostec) Alexander Kochkin in March, 2018 has told Interfax that the concern has begun development of fighting loading for UAVs - it can be both means of infighting, and an air bomb.

    The chief designer - the vice-president of OAK for innovations Sergey Korotkov in December, 2017 has reported to Interfax that in Russia work on creation of shock UAVs which will be able to be organized in groups and to be coordinated among themselves via secure channels of communication.

    Development of the heavy UAV was announced at a forum "Army-2017" by the CEO of RAC MiG Ilya Tarasenko. In November of the same year the representative of the company has noted that they in study have UAVs weight from ton to 15 tons.

    The Russian President Vladimir Putin said on board of the Russian Defense Ministry at the end of 2017 that at implementation of the new state program of arms the particular emphasis on equipment of troops will be placed by precision weapons, pilotless shock complexes and also the newest systems of investigation, communication and radio-electronic fight.

    The Minister of Defence of the Russian Federation Sergey Shoygu reported about plans of equipment of the Russian Armed forces shock UAVs in October, 2017. "In the nearest future on equipment of Armed forces complexes with the multipurpose unmanned aerial vehicles capable to solve not only prospecting, but also shock tasks will begin to arrive", - Shoygu has said.


    From bmpd we will remind that as reported our blog with reference to the publication of the Air&Cosmos magazine a year ago, within research "Hunter" is conducted creation of the hardly noticeable S-70 unmanned aerial vehicle. Works on research "Hunter" are carried out by PJSC Sukhoi Company within the contract of the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation given on October 14, 2011. The purpose of research is creation of pilotless prospecting and shock system which would have the high speed and autonomy. BLA S-70 on the subject "Hunter" is characterized as "the unmanned aerial vehicle of the sixth generation".

    It was reported that the demonstrator of BLA S-70 has been made at the Novosibirsk aircraft factory of V.P. Chkalov – PJSC Sukhoi Company branch, and the first flight of the demonstrator has been planned for 2018 earlier. The mass of BLA is in range of 10-20 tons, and the maximum speed is estimated at 1000 km/h.

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