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Thread: RuAF News and development Thread part 15

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    That video on S-500 has but any thing to do with it , All it looks like S-400 system to me video cut and pasted from many sources
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    http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/9098/rsz11rsz3807.jpg

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    another EW. MI-17, i guess

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    The original image (on RussianPlanes.net) says Mi-8AMTSh / Mi-17Sh - which is an attack (Shturmovik) designation.

    Be interesting to see what its true designation is????

    Fascinating to see all those lumps and bumps of the EW gear - must do wonders for the drag.

    BTW M-17 is the export designation of the Mi-8MT series - so in Russian service its a Mi-8etc etc.

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    Isn't it interesting that what seems to be the pito tube is repositioned forward of the nose by the help of a tubular frame?

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    "F-22 did not crave meeting with our fighters"
    The developer of radars for Su-35 and Su-57 - about the Syrian experience, competition with F-35 and "smart skin" of prospective combat aircraft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanker_man View Post
    The original image (on RussianPlanes.net) says Mi-8AMTSh / Mi-17Sh - which is an attack (Shturmovik) designation.

    Be interesting to see what its true designation is????

    Fascinating to see all those lumps and bumps of the EW gear - must do wonders for the drag.

    BTW M-17 is the export designation of the Mi-8MT series - so in Russian service its a Mi-8etc etc.

    Ken
    Probably a Mi-8AMTSh (as labelled near te cockpit door) modified for EW.

    PS : Somebody knows the electronic package found on this version ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomcatVip View Post
    Isn't it interesting that what seems to be the pito tube is repositioned forward of the nose by the help of a tubular frame?
    Already seen on an other "test" Mi-8AMTSh (Bort 9372). It's probably an easily demountable system located at a point where the turbulences due to the fuselage are the weakest. This kind of displaced pitot is also seen on other helicopters (Mi-28NM, ...).


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    Algerian Mil being modernized with DIRCM in Moscow:

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    Su-30SM with SAP-518SM.

    Su-25SM3:





    http://www.interfax.ru/russia/609165

    Work on the first Tu-160M2 has already began.
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    So we have like 4 kinds of jammer pod to flanker family eh.. The first would be L005 "Sorbitsya" Next gen would be SAP-518, the L-265 "Tarantul"/Modernized L-175 and behemoth SAP-14.

    i wonder if there is any discernable physical differences between the former three.

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    Does Su-25SM3 has MAWS doesnt seems like tough , These birds would be most vulnerable to MANPADS
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    Looks to me like it has the full "Vitebsk" MAWS suite.

    Two rearwards-facing ultraviolet missile approach sensors (in a "V" arrangement), and one front-facing ditto next to the front gear, plus underwing jammer pods (Л-370-3с) and so on.
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    can you translate in English ?
    "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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    Gotta fly below 150m.

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    why the envelope of 40N6E extend below the horizon ? Does it indicates Active Radar Homing ? and probably off board cueing method.

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    Does the suite of Su-25SM3 accurately reflects what his posters says ?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA8lD79XoAEQwZL.jpg:large
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    Does the suite of Su-25SM3 accurately reflects what his posters says ?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA8lD79XoAEQwZL.jpg:large
    No DIRCM on the Vitebsk? I wonder how this suite helps against MANPADS other than telling the pilot that he is going to be hit, am I missing something? Seems crucial to me for real world, counter-insurgency CAS

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    Exclamation

    The blue line probably on the diagram describes earth curvature. Hence missile engagement minimal altitude is 150m even at range.


    @ Archangelski: thank you! If ever you have that Mi28 image also I would be delighted to see it.
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    Vitebsk EW system
    It is one of the most effective defensive aids systems. It is designed to protect aircraft and helicopters against surface-to-air missiles with radar and optical (thermal) homing heads.


    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/942027
    by Yuri Mayevsky
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    Probably some form of DEW.

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    Does the suite of Su-25SM3 accurately reflects what his posters says ?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA8lD79XoAEQwZL.jpg:large
    Roughly, yes.

    No DIRCM on the Vitebsk? I wonder how this suite helps against MANPADS other than telling the pilot that he is going to be hit, am I missing something? Seems crucial to me for real world, counter-insurgency CAS
    Was impossible to adequately fit the DIRCM component within the space available apparently. Having early warning can let pilot take necessary response, as opposed to being blind to the threat.



    Gotta fly below 150m.
    Closer to 5 meters if the mast mounted radar is used, within physical limits of terrain obviously.
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    Was impossible to adequately fit the DIRCM component within the space available apparently. Having early warning can let pilot take necessary response, as opposed to being blind to the threat.
    Thanks TR1. It is a pity, it seems a humble Mi-8 is better protected against MANPADS than a Su-25...

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    it say- in 2007 armed forces received s-400 ,capable of solving not only tactical but operational missions of aero-cosmos forces. system uses missiles of different types capable of destroying not only cruise missiles and aircraft but also warheads of operational tactical ballistic missiles , hypersonic flying objects ,and satellites in low orbits.
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    vertical cross section of destruction zones of s-400.

    its a multi datalink coded missile, its a new fashion option , which enables to work over the horizont.

    s-400 works in group so when it launches missile at very far range it sends commands via datalink to missile to activate directional beacon , but also sends code to that SAM system which is in front of it on battlefield - s-300 , buk , so they can take over with that code and continue to datalink that same missile as it flyes over them ,then missile closes to target so it active radar can get lock and hit it.
    thats how it gets over horizon,and bypass directional jamming.

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    translation

    C-400
    In 2007, the S-400 "Triumph" anti-aircraft missile system was adopted, capable of solving not only tactical, but also operational tasks of aerospace defense. The system, using missiles of various types, allows the destruction not only of cruise missiles and aircraft, but also the heads of operational and tactical ballistic missiles, hypersonic aircraft and spacecraft in low orbits

    C-300
    The S-300PT anti-aircraft missile system was adopted in 1978. The system consisted of a command post (КП) with radar detecting air targets and up to 6 anti-aircraft missile systems (ЗРК). Stages of modernization:
    in 1982 - S-300PS
    in 1989 - S-300PM
    in 2010 - S-300PM1, S-300PM2
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    Korsair and a new helicopter UAV:





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    it say- in 2007 armed forces received s-400 ,capable of solving not only tactical but operational missions of aero-cosmos forces. system uses missiles of different types capable of destroying not only cruise missiles and aircraft but also warheads of operational tactical ballistic missiles , hypersonic flying objects ,and satellites in low orbits.
    What types of interceptor does that bolded part ? 40N6 or 40N6M ? in that case the altitude of interceptor should be atleast 200 km to take out satellite at LEO while the ability to intercept the target speed of atleast 7 km/sec .....That sort of capability is projected for S-500

    I wonder if S-400 and S-500 will eventually share the same common interceptor 40N6M and S-500 would get its own set of interceptors .....I remember at MAKS few years back they mentioned as working on S-400 Upgrade which included new Ground based AESA radar


    Pralay what is the difference between S-300 PM1 and PM2 as both have induction date of 2010 , The latter seems to have longer range 250 km ?
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