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    Your boy's statements on Islam :

    https://www.muslim.ru/en/articles/137/13878/

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    Air-to-air missile of long range K-37 / R-37 / RVV-BD

    https://topwar.ru/129275-raketa-vozd...37-rvv-bd.html
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    This discussion of to Islam or not to Islam simply has no place here. Please stop wasting our time.

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    https://topwar.ru/129275-raketa-vozd...37-rvv-bd.html

    Besides illustrasjons.
    Is there any pics of Su-35S carry anything larger than R-77-1?
    Thanks

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    For A2A. none so far.

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    http://rostec.ru/news/3084

    they speak about *quantum* ols and creating images in *two spectral bands* , which may be 3-5 and 8-12.
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    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4724038

    Mi-171A2 has its first export customer, an Indian firm that has ordered 1 with another option for 1 more.

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4721945

    2nd experimental Ka-62 will fly in December, third in 2018.
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    it also says. weopons launches from T-50 started.
    http://aviationweek.com/dubai-air-sh...-global-market
    The RVV-BD long-range and the RVV-SD medium-range air-to-air guided missiles have received the newest guidance systems with enhanced sensitivity and jamming resistance. As a result, their effective firing range has been extended dramatically.

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    19 trillion take into service

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3467573

    As it became known to Kommersant, next week President Vladimir Putin will hold a series of meetings with the leadership of the Defense Ministry, government members and representatives of the military-industrial complex. It is there that the parameters of the new state armament program (GWP) for 2018-2027 should be agreed upon. According to Kommersant's information, its funding was previously announced in the amount of 19 trillion rubles, which should ensure a balanced development of all types and services in the next decade.

    Military sources "Kommersant" note that the main difference between the new GPV and its predecessor should be the allocation of 1 trillion rubles. for the construction of separate facilities: the Ministry of Defense is motivated by the need to "synchronize the supply of weapons and the construction of facilities for their storage." However, in the financial and economic block of the government, according to Kommersant's information, they insist that the military should give an accurate account of the linkage of the construction of a separate facility to each of the types of weapons and military equipment. If the parties can resolve these issues, the total financing of the GPU until 2027 will reach 20 trillion rubles.

    In the new SAP, much attention will be paid to strategic nuclear forces: purchases of air-launched cruise missiles, submarine ballistic missiles and land-based intercontinental carriers will be conducted. Thus, in the period 2018-2027, new strategic solid fuel assemblies RS-26 Rubezh and rail Barguzin will be adopted, as well as liquid RS-28 Sarmat(carrier of hypersonic blocks - article 4202). The purchase of Su-30SM and Su-35 multifunctional fighters, as well as Su-34 front-line bombers (these all participated in the Syrian campaign) will continue in the aviation sector, the first purchase of a series of advanced Su-57 front-line aviation, 24 MiG-35 fighters, and also the strategic missile carrier Tu-160M2 will be acquired. In parallel, scientific research will be conducted on a prospective long-range aviation complex. Procurement of helicopters will be reduced ( see "Kommersant" on May 17), but in the interests of aerospace forces the serial production of the S-500 "Prometheus" anti-aircraft missile systems and Buk-M3 complexes, unmanned aerial vehicles and the new system of space optical-electronic reconnaissance "Hrazdan" will be deployed.

    In the part of the Navy, the program will be designed for the purchase of diesel-electric submarines, a new generation of Husky type nuclear missile carriers (with a new liquid intercontinental ballistic missile), as well as support ships, minesweepers, corvettes, frigates, communication vessels, experimental and research vessels . In the GPV will be present and the serial purchase of small missile ships capable of carrying cruise missiles Caliber-NK. According to Kommersant, the creation of an aircraft carrier with a nuclear power plant is also possible within the framework of the GPU, however, the decision on the expediency of its construction will be determined by the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces later. Land forces will receive new military air defense systems (including those developed within the framework of the RKD Standard), T-90 and T-14 Armata tanks, Kurganets-25 infantry armored vehicles and Boomerang armored vehicles. Emphasis will also be placed on the adaptation of armaments to the Arctic territories, in particular, the S-300V4 anti-aircraft missile system and the Tor-M2 anti-aircraft missile system. Experts also noted that the military will continue to improve the tactical control system, as well as take the sets of military equipment "Ratnik" in a configuration optimized for the requirements of the Airborne Forces.
    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3467573
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    How effective is the Two channel passive/active seeker against LO targets? Does it lock on air targets in a similar manner to anti radiation missiles , but just in the air?

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    No different than typical Active radar homer.

    The point of having two channel active passive seeker is for countermeasure resistance, which made hard for enemy to jam or spoof your seeker. Plus you can passively shoot out of band threat like AEW (RVV-AE seeker is in Ku-X Band which impossible to home in passively on S-band APY-2) or even ground based radar without specialized missile.

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    Didnt knew R-77 had a dual band active seeker in X/Ku band , I would like to think the X band is for long range tracking of target and Ku is for high resolution burn through capability under intense RF jamming where X band might just fail
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    PAK YES will be cheaper than Tu-160, but will be able to replace all long-range aircraft

    Подробнее на ТАСС:
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4730201

    "One of the main tasks assigned by the military department to the creators of the long-range aviation complex of the long-range aviation (PAK DA) is to ensure that the new aircraft functions as all three current missile carriers (Tu-160, Tu-95MS and Tu-22M3) much cheaper than the Tu-160, "- said the agency's interlocutor. According to him, "the tactical and technical assignment for the PAK DA is approved by the military, in the near future, with the conclusion of the contract, the production of design documentation will begin, with the subsequent manufacture of prototypes."

    Reducing the cost of development, production and operation of PAK DA will be partly facilitated by the fact that this aircraft will be subsonic. This, according to the source, will not affect its combat effectiveness in any way: the presence of high-precision long-range cruise missiles will allow striking without entering the enemy's air defense zone and not using supersonic regimes. Also, a subsonic aircraft is easier and cheaper to prepare for a flight, it uses less fuel.

    "Today, no country in the world, including such powerful military powers as Russia and the US, simply does not pull the design and construction of a supersonic bomber that meets all the criteria of the fifth generation," the TASS source said.

    The specialist did not specify the estimated value of the PAK YES, which appears in the customer's terms of reference.

    The cost of Tu-160

    Expert estimates of the cost of the Tu-160 aircraft range from $ 250 to $ 600 million (in 1993, the media called the sum of 6 billion rubles, which at the time corresponded to approximately $ 600 million). One hour of the missile carrier's flight (without combat use) costs, according to official figures for 2008, 580 thousand rubles (about $ 23.3 thousand). The cost of the American B-1B bomber, close to the Tu-160 for performance, is $ 317 million, the flight hour costs $ 57.8 thousand.
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    PAK YES

    ^^^^^ Best translation ever.
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    Nah, Company "Dry" is still unmatched

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    RAC "MiG" will announce the results of flight tests of the MiG-35 fighter at the beginning of next year
    11/16/2017 9:00:00 AM
    Dubai, UAE). 16 November. Interfax-AVN - The results of factory flight tests of the newest MiG-35 fighter will be announced in early 2018, a representative of the Russian aircraft corporation (RAC) MiG told Interfax

    "The factory flight tests are in accordance with the schedule and will be completed at the end of this year, so we can announce the results at the beginning of the next," the company representative said at the Dubai Airshow.

    He noted that this aircraft has introduced many innovations that differentiate the MiG-35 from other machines.

    "In essence, the MiG-35 is a flying computer, it not only has the newest radar installed, but also a number of quite interesting systems, for example, the MiG-35 pilot will be able to capture the air target by simply turning the head with a helmet-pointing system for target designation and indication, the interlocutor of the agency said. According to him, earlier such technology was possessed only by the USA, France and Israel.
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    Tu-160M rollout:



    First flight in 02/2018 sometime.

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    That is amazing. Never thought I'd see this sight in my lifetime, was always sad about Tu-160s small production rate and their criminal destruction in the 90s and 2000s.

    Even accounting for the partially built fuselage starting point, that is a promising pace.
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    Even accounting for the partially built fuselage starting point, that is a promising pace.
    Please clarify for me;
    I thought the Tu-160M designation was for upgrading the existing Tu-160 with new avionics system, cockpit displays, and rebuilt engines. (Addition- the "M" retains a modernized Obzor-K but the M2 gets a new active array in development?)

    Tu-160M2 would be new build aircraft with NK-32-02 engines.

    Is this correct? So, the newly completed airframe above was completed to Tu-160M, are the engines new build or refurbished?
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    I thought the Tu-160M designation was for upgrading the existing Tu-160 with new avionics system, cockpit displays, and rebuilt engines. (Addition- the "M" retains a modernized Obzor-K but the M2 gets a new active array in development?)
    Yes, according to russian sources existing Tu-160Ms will be upgraded to M2 standrd.

    Tu-160M2 would be new build aircraft with NK-32-02 engines.
    And eventually in existing ones. Lack of engines was affecting the fleet availability.
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    How in the world did they manage to finish up that frame so bloody quick? Like seriously. I was laughing at the february/march claims for the first flight, but i am no longer laughing...

    While it certainly looks damn sweet, i still think it is colossal waste of money.


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    Dunno about any Active Array. But many moons ago, i read a Article in Air International. Its was mostly about Su-35S.
    But it was said they looked at putting Irbis-E on upgraded Tu-160.
    Think they meant the Back End.. hell you could easily fit the proposed Mig-31M 1.4m2 Array there.

    Edit:
    Personal i think this is not only a smart move by VKS.. but the only move at the time being.
    Russia do not have the resources to jump into a large undertaking, as the Pak-Da will ultimatly be for them.
    They have the Pak-Fa running, its is over theor original budget. There are many other important modernizations program to keep up. NC, Navy, Army has their fair share of the cake.
    VKS is main challange is believe it or not in fighter shortage right now, but in every other capability. AWACS, Cargo(in all sizes), Tankers.
    They simply can't get them out fast enough. Il-476 is sure taking its sweet time..

    I expect to hear how much resources Russia have to throw at these many programs.. don't care. I'm right.
    And you don't have to take my word for it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtCYXk9R95I&t=1651s
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    Thanks

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    Tu-160M2 will be new built aircraft but this current will progressilvely test systems. around 2021-2022 the final product will be rolled out. this give you atleast 5 to 10 year edge over PAKDA induction not to mention this is bigger, faster,

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    While it certainly looks damn sweet, i still think it is colossal waste of money.
    why its waste of money? and will make every point accessible in Middleast to bomb with more effective weopons. it is coming 5 to 10 years earlier than PAKFA.
    never question the big decision.
    It took them 4 years to understand. i dont think you are that that slow.
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    Please clarify for me;
    I thought the Tu-160M designation was for upgrading the existing Tu-160 with new avionics system, cockpit displays, and rebuilt engines. (Addition- the "M" retains a modernized Obzor-K but the M2 gets a new active array in development?)
    As I understand it, some Tu-160s are (have been?) modernized along a 75% capremont (capital repairs)- 25% modernization basis. No new radar or cockpit replacement AFAIK. The ones with the more thorough Tu-160M modernization have not flown yet. Both were seen on KAPO floors a few years back.


    [IMG]Is this correct? So, the newly completed airframe above was completed to Tu-160M, are the engines new build or refurbished[/IMG]

    They are stating this is the first Tu-160M2 prototype AFAIK, but how close it is to M2 proper I have my doubts on.
















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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkut
    While it certainly looks damn sweet, i still think it is colossal waste of money.
    I had the same first reaction as you, but the more I think about it the more I like it. Tu-160 is one of the most important assets of the Russian military.

    The idea of conventional deterrence through massive launch of high-precision cruise missiles has became a central thought of current Russian military thinking. That is why almost every new ship is armed with Kalibrs. There are three legs for this deterrence according to recent slides from the MoD. Land-based (cruise missile variant of Iskander-M), sea-based (Kalibrs from ships and submarines) and air-based (Kh-101 from Tu-160 and Tu-95MSM). Now holding areas in the Europe, Asia, Middle-East and North Africa under this threat can be accomplished pretty handily from the first two, but considering the history of the last 100 years and the current political trends, it is obviously of massive importance to be able to have a conventional deterrence vis-a-vis the United States. Of course already the ability to threaten the numerous US military bases around the world is useful, but when the US has a similar existing ability against the Russian mainland, one wants to have a reciprocal escalatory answer against the US mainland. And that can be accomplished by far the best by the third leg, i.e. strategic aviation. Tu-160 gives Russia a truly global, fast and survivable conventional strike capability, with its long range (4000km+) and stealthy Kh-101. It is actually arguable whether the subsonic but stealthy PAK DA or the Mach 2 but only reduced RCS Tu-160M2 is better for this. It depends on how effective counter-stealth capabilities the US can developed within next couple of decades. If they can lessen the effectiveness of the only relevant advantage of PAK DA, then Tu-160M2 with its speed and the safety that brings might be the preferential platform for the role. Also Tu-160M2 will most likely have substantially larger internal cruise missile payload than PAK DA. Besides that, it is in any case highly suspect whether PAK DA could have been produced in meaningful numbers until 2030s. With the production of Tu-160M2 you can have more time to refine the PAK DA design so that it will be more future-proof, when it comes. Anyway the biggest advantage I see for PAK DA is the ability to fly overhead a target in a contested airspace and drop bombs on it, but that seems rather marginal capability to me.

    The concept of conventional deterrence is rather useful in comparison to nuclear deterrence in that the capability has an usable offensive side to it. The same missiles and platforms can easily be used to decimate the war making potential of any hapless country which deserves an humanitarian intervention or a regime change. A Georgian war would look very very different today than it did in 2008.

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    Tu-160M2 looks pretty , Most of the changes are internal to it except for some MAWS/DIRCM sensors you wont see any external changes on Tu-160 base design.
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    The equipping of Tu-22m3 bombers with new long-range cruise missiles

    https://iz.ru/663570/aleksei-ramm/ub...olniat-arsenal
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    I had the same first reaction as you, but the more I think about it the more I like it. Tu-160 is one of the most important assets of the Russian military.
    It is hard to reach a conclusion because much data is missing. It is not known how much did it cost to restart the line, but will keep KAPO active and will help to modernise the factory, which is an advantage.

    Also, Tu-95 and especially Tu-22M3 will not last forever. Would PAK DA be ready by the time these types start to be retired? Probably not.
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