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Thread: A-W Meteor NF.14 WS788 Restoration Thread

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    Having seen the price of bits of Vulcan the Vulcan lot were selling at Scampton airshow on Saturday, my use of the word small does indeed seem ironic...!

    We had another day of Meteor fettling yesterday, and welcomed a new member to the team, Sheridan. As well as having the misfortune of being married to Rich, she appears to have been infected with the Meteor bug too, the poor soul! She is also our nominated team cake baker...!

    After a few solid sessions of metalwork, we decided that a change was as good as a rest and decided to get on with reinstating the controls and the hydraulics. Our plan was that Rich would start wrangling pipes to replace those missing from the wing leading edges, and blanking off the surplus circuits such as the u/c retract circuits. I would finish overhauling the starboard cannon bay aileron control rod pivot, and Shez cleaned up the control rod rollers salvaged off VZ568 last year and readied them for use. Andy also arrived, and carried on with paint stripping part 36,000 on the starboard inner gear door. I soon had the pivot rebuilt and back in its customary place
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    Not long after this, we had the main starboard aileron rod in
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    With freshly overhauled rollers. From being salvaged by Ali off a wreck on a Welsh hillside, to serviceable and fitted and doing their job once more!
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    We fitted the port set too, so we don't lose them!
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    Rich was busy blanking and plumbing
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    In both leading edges!
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    Andy gave him a hand too, or rather 2 hands!
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    If you recall, as an NF14 our jet should have outboard flaps. However ours wears spurious NF12 outer wings, which are flapless, so the hydraulics to the outboard flaps are redundant. Here Andy is in the transport joint in the starboard wing, removing the snipped pipes and fitting blanking unions. If you recall, Ali already blanked those on the port side many moons ago.
    He also proudly showed off the u/c door, very nearly ready for paint
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    A little sand over and it will be ready to prime and paint. Another job nearly jobbed!
    Finally,we took the dark clouds gathering as our cue to pack up and go home
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    Unless Rich sneaks an update, that's all from us until I get back from Malta!
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    ...one thing I forgot to mention; I am told that hopefully when I get back off holiday, 788 will be going into the main hangar so we can get on with stripping and repainting her over the winter months.
    The first thing that will be happening when she rolls inside is that the canopy will be coming off and going on its travels. When it returns, it will have a full set of gleaming new transparencies fitted!
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    What system are the Breeze Connectors and chopped-off cable looms associated with?
    Andy

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    Generators, engine systems, voltage regulators, undercarriage indicator wiring, and pretty much anything else located from the wing roots outwards. All the looms have been mutilated at their joints in a similar way, so we have a lot of work to do with the wiring.

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    Good to hear 788 is going inside for the winter, and very nice to see your continuing hard work.
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    We have been told she is coming in, and the chap tasked with making the new canopy is champing at the bit. So fingers crossed, because after all the work that has gone into that cockpit the lid ain't coming off while she's outside!
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    I do hope it's a permanent home under cover (at least until she's taxiable, and then only out in good weather............).

    Andy

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    The news just keeps on getting better and better!

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    Fantastic news. Just fantastic!
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    What he said! I attended the Allied Air Forces Memorial Day at Elvington recently and had another chance to have a good look at this lovely aircraft.

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    Great to hear you are getting the canopy sorted, progress is coming along nicely.

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    Sorry it's been a while chaps, but holiday and life have gotten in the way of Meteor-ing. Normal service is resumed now, as I had a working day with our jet on Sunday. But I am getting ahead of myself; first let me share some holiday snaps!
    We went to Malta, and while we were there we took the opportunity to visit our good friends at the Malta Aviation Museum, to take a look around their collection and deliver a spare Meteor flap gauge. Amongst the aircraft held there are 3 Meteors; a T7, currently stored, an F8 under restoration, and NF(T)14 WS774, displayed. Obviously we had a good look round these, the work on the F8 is of fantastic quality!
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    You may remember a while ago we had an 'expert' criticising our progress; well I think it is fair, after looking at some of his handiwork on 774, to say people in glass houses really oughtn't throw stones! While at first glance, apart from sun bleached dayglo bits she looks lovely...
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    Once you start to dig, you realise things are not so good, and a shiny coat of paint hides a multitude of sins. One of the more interesting bodges was the 'replacement' of missing thumb catches (readily available, we will be sending some to Malta to let them put this right) with aluminium plates
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    All the wiring to these JB's is missing too, which is a shame.
    The belly panel is only held on by the power of prayer, rather than fasteners
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    Someone put the wing down on a tyre. While the paint was wet...
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    And apparently pitted, corroded steel is repaired by simply painting it over!
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    So while she has not had the best of restorations, those wonderful chaps in Malta are determined to put her right with help and some parts from us. It's a shame corners were cut on her while she was in the UK under rebuild, and one of those responsible felt he had the right to decry our efforts, but that's the aircraft preservation/restoration world I guess...
    While we were at the museum, we spied some spare Meteor drop tanks.
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    While they are not in the greatest of shape they are better than what we have, ie. nowt! I asked what was intended for them; on learning they are surplus I asked nicely if we could have them. The upshot is, once I have found a way to repatriate them, they are ours! Many thanks to Ray Polidano for this kind gift. Going the other way will be thumb catches to replace the comedy efforts on 774, 788's old radio bay hatch, a new damper to replace the collapsed one on the nose leg, and some other bits we can spare.
    I cannot recommend highly enough the Malta Aviation Museum; A fantastic little place, and we look forward to hopefully working with them in the future. Many thanks to Ezechiel and Ray for taking the time to show us around.
    On our return to the UK, all the YAM volunteers were taken on a road trip as a thankyou for all our hard work, taking in the BBMF at Coningsby and the hidden gem of a museum at Thorpe Camp, an outlying part of RAF Woodhall Spa
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    An excellent day out, and a very much appreciated effort by the office for us at the coalface!
    Sunday I was back at YAM. Now that winter is coming, the Cayley and the Blackburn Monoplane are to be hoisted back into the hangar roof after some maintenance on the building is completed. Once this is done, 788 is off indoors, so I made sure everything was secure on board and removed the nose door to allow fitting of the towbar.
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    Once she is in, the canopy is coming off and going away to be re-glazed. The aircraft will then, while nestling snugly in the hangar, be paint stripped, before emerging in the Spring with a new lid and a new paint scheme! While the lid is off we can get into the fuel tank bay and finish rigging the elevator controls.

    While we are in there, we can fit the main fuel tank we have just been offered...

    More next time folks!
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    Glad you're back, I've missed the regular updates! But clearly 'networking' with other groups has proved to be to your mutual advantage.

    Andy

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    Welcome back! You have been sorely missed.

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    I echo everyone's comments about the loveliness of your return!

    It is disappointing to see the Malta Meteor's issues, but very heartening to hear you and the team are helping and that the Malta crew want to make it better. I think I missed the nastiness you alluded to...it's sad to read of one restorer knocking another.
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    I think around page 6/7 of this thread should find the nastiness mentioned.
    Nice to know you are all pleased normal service is resumed! With added extra goodies for 788...
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    Great update!
    Keep it coming!


    I'd like to visit Malta next summer, by the way...

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    Do it! Lovely island, fantastic people, and more history than you can shake a stick at!
    The Cisk beer is rather good too...!
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    Keep up the great work.

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    Great to see you are swapping parts with the Malta museum.

    Incidentally when we used to visit there in the '50's the beer was by Simmonds Farsons and Cisk. Simmonds Farsons was a Devon? brewery which had followed the Navy out there, as Malta was a large RN base in those days, Valetta and Sliema Guts were very lively places and much S F Cisk was drunk
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    Well you will be pleased to know I have kept up tradition and also 'disposed' of a goodly amount of Cisk Peter! The guys in Malta are truly fantastic; I am proud to call them my friends and offer them some help and goodies.
    Newark aerojumble was on this Saturday; As usual I attended, if nothing else to claim a free brew off Howard! I came away with a good few useful bits as you can see...
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    The compressor, with accompanying handbook, has already been given a 'once over' in the shed; it now turns over nicely and is now ready to fit. One of the few items we are blessed with a spare of now!
    While looking for some non-Meteor related pics for a forthcoming issue of Flypast, I stumbled across some more pics I have taken of 788 during my time involved with YAM. I thought I might share some...
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    More to report at the weekend probably; we intend to put a bit of work in on 788 then!
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    I saw these on Facebook but thought someone must have hacked your account, they were all credited to someone named Graham...!
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    That would be me...!
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    I snapped a photo of those Meteor drop tanks in Malta without knowing what they were, beyond being drop tanks! I'm glad they are going to be used, as they were dumped right round the back of the museum.

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    As soon as I figure a way of repatriating them, they will be un-dumped and finding their way onto 788!
    It's been a busy few weeks for us. I had a random day off so swapped some of our Newark booty onto the jet, including the compass from Darren
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    I also shamelessly begged a replacement cruciform tail fairing off Mike Davey. As you can see 788's isn't the happiest bit of tin around...
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    Whereas this one is, to quote Captain Jack Sparrow, much more betterer...
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    So I shall soon be setting course to the West, to gather this and our main fuel tank. I hear tell of beer and curry also......
    Meanwhile back at the ranch, we had a working day last Sunday. Myself, Rich, new recruit Shez, and Ali were present. As the weather was to put it bluntly crap, we paid some attention to our Derwent in the hangar
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    From which we soon had a goodly pile of components stripped, ready for some love and attention
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    After lunch we relocated to the workshop. Soon it was a hive of activity, with us all taking and working on a wing jointing strip each
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    These should very soon be ready to refit, yet also be removable on demand should the need arise. In addition, they will be secured with the correct fixings rather than the crudely bodged self tapping screw arrangement which has sufficed since Leeming restored her.
    Another behind the scenes job, I broke the AP down into the 2 F700 folders I bought at Newark.
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    They are now filed much more efficiently, effectively giving us an electrical volume and an airframe volume, so no more fighting over one AP folder!
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    Finally, and most excitingly, our restoration manager sent me this sequence of pictures today
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    Yes, 788 is in the hangar for winter! Sadly the radome had to come off, as it blocked the visitors' walkway, but we can live with that. When she emerges from the T2 next, she will look very different...
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    It would be very interesting to see inside the front of the aircraft whilst the radome is off, any chance of a picture?
    Many thanks,
    Andy

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    Not a problem!
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    788's appearance should change quite dramatically this Saturday afternoon. Rich and I are going to get 788's canopy off ready to go away for new glazing, and remove or open every panel we can to give the airframe chance to dry and air out properly.
    So for the next couple of weeks you will have the chance to see 788 in an almost embarrassing state of undress folks!
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    That should make for some interesting photos - I'd much rather see what's in an aircraft's innards than all buttoned-up!

    Andy

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    Does the heart good to see the Meteor all snug inside - thanks for the update and good luck with the winter transformation!

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