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    Don't worry boy.
    Ask yourself have the North Koreans got any means of delivering a nuclear weapon to the home counties of England, or even any desire to. If the answer is yes, then I'll start worrying.

    This sort of thing used to happen every week in the 1960's and 70's.

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    You said it yourself. Sabre rattling. That's all it is and all for domestic consumption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy in Beds View Post
    Don't worry boy.
    Ask yourself have the North Koreans got any means of delivering a nuclear weapon to the home counties of England, or even any desire to. If the answer is yes, then I'll start worrying.

    This sort of thing used to happen every week in the 1960's and 70's.

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    Ahh, Andy, but things can change overnight, Cuban Crisis, spring to mind?.


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    Exactly my concern. What if the US decide to neutralize the Koreans before they can do so them selves. The Koreans not having a capability in some ways is potentially more dangerous.
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    And all of this is just the sort of reaction the Koreans would welcome. They are doing it to impress their starving populace who would be starving even more but for the $2 billion food aid package agreed with South Korea, which they are unlikely to sacrifice. They might have cut the "hot-line" but they certainly haven't cut the aid line!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hampden98 View Post
    Exactly my concern. What if the US decide to neutralize the Koreans before they can do so them selves. The Koreans not having a capability in some ways is potentially more dangerous.
    If it is to be believed, then the USA has itself to blame, look at the stupidity of sending two Stealth Bombers right up to their boarders, intimidating at the least.
    I am begining to see why nearly every American owns an Arsenal of weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lincoln 7 View Post
    Ahh, Andy, but things can change overnight, Cuban Crisis, spring to mind?.
    No, actually not Jim.
    How many times exactly did we slip into nuclear war back then?
    And it was a damned of a lot more dangerous back then too.
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    Indeed it was. And now the North has "declared a state of war" despite the fact that the war was never formally ended and there has been an armistice only for the last 60 years. Perhaps Mr Kim is unclear about this!
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    Indeed, Perchance he is.But his new gained power has certainly gone to his head.

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    Or is it hawkish generals testing out the new leader.....?
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    I doubt he makes decisions on his own but being so young and under the influence of others naivety can be just as dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charliehunt View Post
    Or is it hawkish generals testing out the new leader.....?
    That's my theory on it. I dont think that its been the Comunist Party running things for quite some time now. I tend to think that its the military that's at the helm, at the present time.
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    Indeed, I had thought the communist model was subsumed by military dictatorship, in all but name, sometime ago.
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    Rumours have it the Paras have been recalled from Easter break and put on 24 hour alert to move to Korea

    http://www.arrse.co.uk/intelligence-...penisular.html

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    Monitoring the news networks today, I still think that the Chinese will not allow the 'Honourable' Kim Jong Un, to unleash his armed forces on the South. I just don't think it's in his interest to do it, within a few hours maybe even sooner, his socialist paradise will be dust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyT View Post
    Rumours have it the Paras have been recalled from Easter break and put on 24 hour alert to move to Korea

    http://www.arrse.co.uk/intelligence-...penisular.html
    Dubious grapevine! What have British paratroups to do with N.Korea? Sounds like mischief-making to me....
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    But the US has, and as the latest dwarf in charge of North Korea has declared a War on the South after eating his latest Donkey, one would imagine it's a safety precaution.

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    I would imagine that the SKs really wouldnt need too much help defeating NK. It would be a horrible mess, regardless, but I have no doubts about the outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyT View Post
    But the US has, and as the latest dwarf in charge of North Korea has declared a War on the South after eating his latest Donkey, one would imagine it's a safety precaution.
    Indeed it has and that point is taken but I doubt very much that the UK is involved but I stand to be corrected.

    And remember that the state of war has never ended - I think his dad forgot to tell him.
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    Do remember that the Korean war was (is) between the North Koreans and the United Nations, not just the United States.
    As China is now a member of the U.N., perhaps it could be asked to supply troops to fight against the North, now there's an intriguing thought.

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    To be quite correct it is between North Korea and South Korea, the former originally supported by China and the latter by the UN. Since I believe that the UN is a non-aggressive organisation I am unclear as to is role in this situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyT View Post
    But the US has, and as the latest dwarf in charge of North Korea has declared a War on the South after eating his latest Donkey, one would imagine it's a safety precaution.
    He is a Lamb, being lead by older Tigers, many of which I have no doubt would love to see a War.
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    They're a bit like the kids who used to sit at the back of the class making rafia baskets. They used to shout sometimes but they were harmless enough.

    Leave 'em alone I say, there's room for at least one bonkers country in the world, it would be awfully grey if they went.

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    China the key?

    Quote Originally Posted by MSR777 View Post
    Monitoring the news networks today, I still think that the Chinese will not allow the 'Honourable' Kim Jong Un, to unleash his armed forces on the South. I just don't think it's in his interest to do it, within a few hours maybe even sooner, his socialist paradise will be dust.
    MSR777, I quite agree with your comments, China is the one country to have major influence over North Korea and the wee boy Kim, they ultimately have the power stop the Stalinist states posturing without firing a shot. After all, China's global trade will be severely affected, they are now members of UN and would earn respect if they tackled Pyongyang diplomatically.

    Lastly I do not think the wee boy rules, it is the old army generals.

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    With 1-3 Billion Chinese, I doubt they would think about taking them on. a no- brainer, if you ask me
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    The South Koreans would love a unified Korea, at least the ones I've talked to while I've been there - it's a deep national wound for them.

    As regards troop recalls, I would think it prudent to get our rapid reaction force onto a state of alert just in case it escalates, it's not like they've set off on C41's armed for bear. Wouldn't be surprised if certain black clad Herefordhire gents were on their way though (not based on anything other than that's what I'd be doing if I was PM).

    Saddam Hussein caught us napping in 1990, so why wouldn't the alert state go up when the DPRK gets mouthy. Oh, and unlikey as it might seem I would imagine there is a lot more intelligence available to the powers that be than we could imagine.

    The DPRK is an embarresment to China but they need to extract themselves without loss of face so I reckon there's going to be a lot of diplomatic shouting while the US and RoK surgically remove the aggressive military elements from the North's leadership.

    We'll see...
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    All of this presupposes that the new young inexperienced leader (or his older muscle-flexing generals) want a war against superior odds.

    I don't believe that to be the case. And what is the justification for putting armed UK troops on the ground - in any guise?
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    We will show solidarity with the US, there is no other justification needed I'm afraid. Probably goes back to the 'Axis of Evil' days, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was something in the old UN mandates after the Korean War that obliges member states to protect the sovereignty of Soth Korea.

    We went to war in Iraq a few years ago for thinner reasons remember.
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    Yes I am sure we would, if it ever came to it, but I doubt that in 2013 that will involve UK servicemen on the ground. Maybe our support will be the corollary of US support for us in Libya.
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