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Thread: Your Favourite Control Column Stick/Yoke/Grip!

  1. #1681
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    Still looking to purchase a Lockheed Constellation control wheel / yoke in any condition. Have items for trade also!

  2. #1682
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    Hi 94thAero:

    You'll find what you're looking for here:

    https://www.oncealoft.com/control-wh...lumns-for-sale

    but they're not cheap. Specifically what wheels do you have to trade?

  3. #1683
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    I have been to that site many times and have exchanged emails with Nick many times. He has some nice stuff and I have bought some minor items from him but I can't afford the wheels that I need. I have the following for trade. Capt and F/O B-767 wheels and center console panel, Lockheed JetStar wheel, A-10 control grip, F-102 control grips, real DC-8 wheel cap, real Constellation wheel cap.... possibly other items.

    I have an original Constellation wheel cap and the switches for a Constellation wheel so I really could use a Constellation wheel that I can restore or a restored one would be OK.
    Last edited by Hatinthering; 3rd November 2017 at 05:26.

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    HatintheRing: Do you care if the wheel is from a Connie or a P2V-7? The casual observer won't know the difference. See post #753 of this thread for an explanation of the differences.

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    It's Russian, but any ideas what this may be from?

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    I'd say a Yak, I have one similar but heavier construction that is Yak 11

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    Russian stuff does lack finesse! PM sent, Swifter.

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    Thanks for the possible I'd Rocketeer. Yep Ian there's no finesse with Russian stuff, they just do exactly what it says on the tin.

    For those with a B47 control yoke have you seen the hub cap on eBay as a buy it now?! I believe that these are rarer than the yoke itself !

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    "For those with a B47 control yoke have you seen the hub cap on eBay as a buy it now?! I believe that these are rarer than the yoke itself !"

    I have followed control wheel and cap offers/sales on Ebay for a long time. I can make the following fact based statements: From 2005-2017 at least 22 B-47 caps of four different types have shown up. From 2013-2017, five B-47 wheels have been offered, four of which sold, three to members of this forum. I saw no offerings of B47 wheels from 2005-2012. Anecdotally, it seems the wheels are far less common than the caps.
    Last edited by Swifter; 16th November 2017 at 20:05.

  11. #1691
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    Hi all, I have used this thread several times to identify various grips that I have acquired, thanks again to all of you that helped.
    Just a thought, would it be useful if a list of Manufactures AC numbers was made along with the corresponding aircraft that they were fitted to.
    I know it would be very useful to less knowledgeable people such as myself.

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    Hi all:

    Thought I had posted some photos of this earlier, but apparently not. A while back I bought a rather ratty (but salvageable) wheel cap for a B-29 bomber. Decided to do an inverse restoration on it. Here are the before shots:

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    And the after shots:

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    Now I just need another wheel....yikes!

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    Good work there Swifter, nice restoration job. There seems to be so many good copies of hub caps out there right now it's difficult to tell the original from the copy, do you have any observations or tips when purchasing hub caps ?

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    Hi R06:

    Regardless of the make, an original item can usually be discerned from a reproduction. Studying photos of known original items is a good way to build a knowledge base. In the past I've been happy to occasionally buy a "repop" for display purposes till acquiring the original. Some are nicely executed.

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    Talking of repro versus genuine parts I attach photos of Flight Engineering's continuing work on a well known Me109 salvaged from the Eastern front some years ago.
    "Yellow 12 " is the identity I think.
    Peter Grieves is making his usual excellent job of it, and the skill needed to fabricate and blend in missing parts into the remaining fuselage is evident throughout the build.
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    Brightspark180

    I am in the process of producing a collectors guide for the Dunlop Straight Handles with part numbers, aircraft use, descriptions etc, similar to the 'Ring Handles Bible' Alan 'Air Ministry' Hulme has produced. It will probably only be a 'tip of the iceberg' resource as there were so many produced but, hopefully better than nothing! It is still in it's early stages of compilation and it is still work in progress. If you do find a handle with an 'uncertain' use, this forum will do it's best to identify it!

    Martyn

    GYD

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    Lovely cap Nick. Lovely 109 project.

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    "Talking of repro versus genuine parts I attach photos of Flight Engineering's continuing work on a well known Me109 salvaged from the Eastern front some years ago.
    Peter Grieves is making his usual excellent job of it, and the skill needed to fabricate and blend in missing parts into the remaining fuselage is evident throughout the build."


    That ME/Bf-109 project takes the need for new parts fabrication (and skills required) to an entirely different level. It will be interesting to see whether the owner(s) will attempt to power it with a DB-601/605 or whether they put a Merlin in it...like the ex-Spanish HA-1112s used in the "Battle of Britain" film. Hard to believe it has been 48 years since I went to see that film at a theater!
    Last edited by Swifter; 19th November 2017 at 16:14.

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    Enjoying the 109 project, please keep us up to date.

    Regards Mike

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    F16 falcon grip for sale on this site
    http://www.aviaplus.net/index.php?page=item&id=69

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    Here's another from our collection.

    Any advice about variant, etc will be most gratefully received.
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    The garage that keeps on giving.

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    Looking forward to AH numbers tome Martyn, your source material is spectacular. On the F-16 front, an offering from Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/listing/4928390...f=sr_gallery_1
    There's also a rather lovely A-4A/B Skyhawk grip on ebay at the moment...

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    Martyn
    That sounds great, good luck.

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    "Any advice about variant, etc will be most gratefully received."

    Hi AirMinistry:

    A little over three years ago (post #753) I supplied some "informed conjecture", with photos, of the differences between the control wheels used in the Lockheed Constellation (L-1049, L-1649 etc.) , the C-121/EC-121 variant and the P2V-7 Neptune, all of which used what I thought at the time, were two variants of the basic wheel design in your photos. I think most of the information in that post is still correct. But since then I've become aware of a third variation of that basic wheel casting. Based on the info in post #753 I think it most likely that your wheel was originally delivered in a post-war civilian Connie or (possibly) a military C-69. It did not come out of the later P2V-7 and it's unlikely to have come from a C-121. Your wheel has had the switches in the switch blocks changed and/or modified. The interesting thing to me is the block engraved with the elevator trim functions. Yours is the first I've seen with that switch block.

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    AirMinistry, can you post an image showing the back of the cap? Also, what is the casting number shown on the back?
    Last edited by Hatinthering; 21st November 2017 at 05:22.

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    Swifter, many thanks for the info. I have half a memory that we were told the wheel came from one of the Constellations scrapped at Baginton (Coventry airport). The web (and no doubt a contemporary edition of Wrecks and Relics) would offer various identities for these.

    Hitr, here's your pic and the casting nos. appear to be 294100-989. The "9"s and "8"s are almost impossible to read properly so the no. may not be correct, i.e. substitute "9" for "8" and so on.
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    The garage that keeps on giving.

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    F84 / F86 column if anyone has got the grip to attach to it
    https://www.ebay.de/itm/292339625631...MakeTrack=true

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