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  1. #301
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    Aree. SLEP is more or less impossible on A/B afaik. In a dreamland, competition would continue. With elections comin in about 1 year, i'm doubtful.

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    Am confused. Did not LM made 2 distinct studies /proposals toward prolongation of F16 operational life ,and now it is said to be impossible ..!. Interesting give great confidence dealing with LM.

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    That was about Block 40/50 aircraft.
    Block 15 is another matter. Might be possible, but is Belgium willing to pay for a Block 15 SLEP on its own, with unknown outcome?
    How can less be more? It's impossible. More is more.
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    There is also the problem of data survey that was not implemented early on.

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    The french government raises its offer of "broader partnership" to Belgium for the renewal of its fighter jets, a market of 34 aircraft, estimated at this point to some 3.6 billion euros. A delegation of the office of Florence Parly, the French Minister of the armed forces, made clear, detailed, and amplified, Tuesday, May 15, its offer to the Belgian defence to replace its current American F-16.
    The project stresses the need to take into account the development of the Europe of defence, within the framework of the future combat system, a Franco-German project placed under the leadership of Paris but which could be extended to the Belgium.
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    http://www.lemonde.fr/economie/artic...b4CtsaWLgq8.99

    I am not sure if I understand this -- they are suggesting Belgium should buy Rafale and then join the development of the new French/German 5. gen fighter!?

    AFAIK the new French/German fighter should be introduced around 2035 or so -- if this is correct, and if Belgium start introducing their new fighters around 2025, there is just a 10-year gap.

    A more attractive deal would have been if France suggested leasing 34 Rafale to Belgium from 2025 to 2035, followed by introduction of the new 5. gen fighter from 2035 or so. France will in any case fly their Rafale for a long time to come.

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    I am not sure that there is that many Rafale to rent.

    Parly is ridding a Mirage (but at least that's something).

    About the meeting b/w the two MoD (Be/Fr):
    "on n'a rien entendu de nouveau par rapport à la lettre reçue (de Mme Parly, ndlr) le 6 septembre 2017. Il n'y a rien de plus concret", a expliqué la porte-parole du ministre belge de la Défense, Steven Vandeput, Laurence Mortier.

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    "We did not hear anything new in relation to the letter received (from Mrs. Parly, ed) on September 6, 2017.*" There is nothing more to substantiate [the offer], "said spokeswoman for Belgian Defense Minister Steven Vandeput, Laurence Mortier.

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    http://m.7sur7.be/7s7/m/fr/1502/Belg...rancaise.dhtml

    *devoid of any substance already
    Last edited by TomcatViP; 16th May 2018 at 13:14.

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    Honestly Frnce should just GIVE these planes to Belgium so as to break the de facto incoming monopoly of F-35

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    Who pays for that?

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    I am not sure that there is that many Rafale to rent.
    France would have to change their plans for their Rafale squadrons of course to accomodate this.

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    France would have to change their plans for their Rafale squadrons of course to accomodate this.
    . Already done. Think we would need to wait for a big order from India (an dsubsequently and indian production chain)

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    From LM and the Belgian partnering industry in Wallonia*:



    *French speaking southern region of Belgium
    Last edited by TomcatViP; 17th May 2018 at 15:30.

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    From LM and the Belgian partnering industry in Wallonia*:
    Frankly... Not the strong point of US offer... Hilariously their main partner is SABCA (a Dasault subsidiary)

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    Quote Originally Posted by halloweene View Post
    Frankly... Not the strong point of US offer... Hilariously their main partner is SABCA (a Dasault subsidiary)
    Its a Belgian company regulated by the Belgian state, with Dassault being its largest shareholder. Its no more hilarious than Thales UK or Selex ES (owned by Leonardo) working as British subcontractors to the F-35 program.

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