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    ADA/HAL and NFTC to get help from the US Navy for the testing phase of the N-LCA

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    The Indian Navy, along with ADA, has sought the help of the United States Navy to share its expertise while resolving some of these issues, although the US will not have full privy to the design and development of the indigenous aircraft.

    “With the US having over half-a-century of experience in developing and maintaining carrier-borne aircraft, we are getting valuable help from to resolve issues, especially with the undercarriage and related problems,” a source familiar with the developments said.

    Sources in the Navy said the US Navy is not being paid for the consultancy as the arrangement is a government-to-government arrangement. “We only take care of their travel accommodation and other requirements,” a source said.

    Under the memorandum of understanding signed for the purpose, the US consultancy will not cover design-specific or commercial aspects.


    It is specifically for carrier-borne operations and they are also helping Team LCA with crucial technologies like the ski jump take off and arrest landing ..

    Speaking to Deccan Herald, ADA Chief P S Subrahmanya said: “The US Navy Carrier Suitability Test Team is, in fact, conducting audits of our test findings which has been very beneficial for us given the fact that this is India’s first attempt at developing a carrier-borne fighter.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackArcher View Post
    ADA/HAL and NFTC to get help from the US Navy for the testing phase of the N-LCA

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    Some things that money can't buy

    PS: Wish we had more chai wallas like Wing Commander (retd) Hari Nair for other projects as well. Glad to see LCH already exploring the complete flight envelope so early in its testing phase.
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    Saw a dark grey dhruv hovering 20-30 meters over yelhanka a while back. Seemed to be a wsi but it was too far to confirm.

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    India’s Naval LCA Flies but Needs More Power

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    The naval prototype of India’s Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA) made its first test flight on April 27. Already delayed by four years, the program still faces design concerns, including weight. Strengthening of the rear airframe for carrier operations, and the addition of an arrestor hook, has made the aircraft about 1,000 pounds overweight.

    “The naval variant of the LCA will require the F414 Enhanced Performance Engine [EPE] providing up to 26,500 pounds of thrust, a 20-percent boost,” an Indian Navy official told AIN. General Electric and Boeing have proposed the EPE for future versions of the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, with a new fan, compressor and turbine, but it is still in development. India has ordered 99 F414-INS6 engines to power Mk2 versions of the Tejas, but they are believed to offer the standard 22,000 pounds of thrust. The prototype and limited series production Tejas Mk1s–including the naval prototype–are powered by GE F404-IN20 engines that produce 17,700 pounds. India ordered 41 of these after development problems with the indigenous Kaveri engine that was supposed to power the LCA.

    Indian Defense Minister A.K. Anthony attributes delays to the naval LCA to “technical complexities, non-availability of infrastructure and critical components and technology denial regimes, extended user trials and the failure of some of the components during testing.” EADS has been providing technical assistance. The naval LCA schedule is supposed to align with construction of India’s first indigenous aircraft carrier, due to be completed in 2014. To facilitate proving the aircraft for carrier operations, a shore-based test facility is being set up at Naval Air Station Goa replicating an aircraft carrier with a ski jump for launch and arresting gear for deck recovery. The takeoff area is ready, and completion of the landing area is scheduled for year-end. The cost of developing the naval LCA has escalated from the initially sanctioned $186 million to $336 million.

    Over the next decade the Indian Air Force (IAF) plans to form six Tejas squadrons, four of them flying the Mk2 version. The first squadron is slated to deploy by July next year, to Sulur airbase in Tamil Nadu, but this date appears likely to slip to the end of next year. The preliminary design of the Mk2 powered by the F414 has been completed. The first flight is expected by 2014, around the time the Tejas Mk1 is declared fully operational. The IAF has said it will buy at least 83 Mk2s if the variant meets performance requirements.

    Meanwhile, development of the Kaveri engine continues with Snecma, which has been providing technical assistance. The Kaveri is still considered an alternative engine for the LCA, and a spin-off version could power India’s proposed Unmanned Strike Air Vehicle. The ninth Kaveri engine prototype was integrated with an Il-76 testbed aircraft at the Gromov Flight Research Institute in Russia last year.
    Well, i hope they prepare NLCA Mk2 for higher thrust EPE in advance. Would love to see the EPE on it.

    Godspeed to the LCA team.

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    ^ Sounds like a good idea.

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    Is that 500Kgs over the weight of the LCA mark 1 with the limitation of 8g? or is it 500Kgs over the weight of the original LCA design goals of 9g?
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt View Post
    Is that 500Kgs over the weight of the LCA mark 1 with the limitation of 8g? or is it 500Kgs over the weight of the original LCA design goals of 9g?
    NLCA will be heavier to its air force variant for sure. And if it mentions that the aircraft that flew or what is currently ready is overweight, it is most likely to mean that it is above the intended weight for the NLCA. Or maybe it is from the LCA mk1....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayrubik View Post
    ICG dhruv..

    The CG colors looks good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackArcher View Post
    ADA/HAL and NFTC to get help from the US Navy for the testing phase of the N-LCA

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    American fans would be very happy on hearing this.....this is not going to be uneventful... people have not learnt their lesson with American consultancy from the past.

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    Tejas LSP and PVs to head to Goa for another round of weapons trials for IOC-2. And LSP-8 may have its first flight next month.

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    cross post from BRF- was posted on the Tejas LCA Facebook page it seems! NP-1 on its first flight with another Tejas as a chase aircraft









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    more of NP-1 !










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    and more ! the inflight pics were taken from another chase Hawk



















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    Thumbs up

    Now thats one cool looking Light Combat Aircraft!

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    looks soo 80s....

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    To me it looks like an advanced trainer type..
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsetiawan View Post
    looks soo 80s....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JangBoGo View Post
    American fans would be very happy on hearing this.....this is not going to be uneventful... people have not learnt their lesson with American consultancy from the past.
    It's not really like they have a real choice...
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    What about Le French
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    ^^
    Yes, they should have consulted either Russia or France. The two most reliable partners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsetiawan View Post
    looks soo 80s....
    yes, because it was designed in the 80s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsetiawan View Post
    looks soo 80s....
    as opposed to the ultra modern 5th gen jet fighters that Indonesia is developing, while purchasing the oh-so breathtakingly 2000s looking T-50 Golden Eagles right ?
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    Finally !

    The Govt. has cleared the acquisition of the PC-7 MkII basic trainers from Switzerland after a long delay due to KAI raising a formal complaint.

    Fulfiling Air Force's long- pending requirement, government today cleared a proposal worth over Rs 1,800 crore for procuring 75 Pilatus aircraft from Switzerland to train its rookie pilots.

    Government has approved the deal to procure 75 Pilatus Basic Trainer Aircraft for IAF, highly placed Defence Ministry sources told PTI here.

    The decision was taken at a meeting of Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) this evening chaired by the Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

    The deal was hanging fire for last one year after one of the contender Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) alleged that Pilatus’ bid was incomplete and it did not fulfil some of the requirements of Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP) instituted by government.

    The aircraft are being procured by the IAF to provide training to its rookie pilots and replace the HPT-32 trainer aircraft which have been grounded for over two years after a fatal accident in 2009, Defence Ministry officials said.

    The delivery of the planes are expected to begin by the middle of 2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quadbike View Post
    What about Le French
    Dassault could help with the design but in the end only the US can provide testing facilities and basic training. Even the Rafale went to the US for carrier testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JangBoGo View Post
    yes, because it was designed in the 80s.
    Ziiiiing.
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    Nice pics of NP-1 . Did they made a video of the flight like they did for LSP-7 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsetiawan View Post
    looks soo 80s....
    the JF-17 looked pretty 70's with its slatted intakes, no rear view canopy, etc in fact it looked just like this old Romanian project



    that was before they saw the X-35 then hastily added DSI intakes and enlarged the LERX

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-20 Hotdog View Post
    the JF-17 looked pretty 70's with its slatted intakes, no rear view canopy, etc in fact it looked just like this old Romanian project



    that was before they saw the X-35 then hastily added DSI intakes and enlarged the LERX
    so, in your opinion, which era does it look like it belongs to now? and which era does the T-50 Golden Eagle look like it belongs to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackArcher View Post
    so, in your opinion, which era does it look like it belongs to now? and which era does the T-50 Golden Eagle look like it belongs to?
    Golden Eagle is basically a single engine variant of this

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    That canopy looks soo MKIish!

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