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    China hacked a Navy contractor and secured a trove of highly sensitive data on subs

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.254ca3d41ab8

    can we expect new US style designs like the FC-31 was?

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    Had this been done by Russia they would have imposed tons of Sanctions but China seems to get free pass all the time
    "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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      #3
      Originally posted by J-20 View Post
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.254ca3d41ab8

      can we expect new US style designs like the FC-31 was?
      More like Seawolf or Virginia style designs. I believe the US is 1.5+ generations ahead of the PRC when it comes to SSN quietening. PRC has a very quiet SSK in the 039B(C?) but not when it comes to SSN. 093A/B are probably between LA 688 and 688i (Just my speculation) while the rest of the world has Seawolf, Virginia, Astute, Yasen etc.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Austin View Post
        Had this been done by Russia they would have imposed tons of Sanctions but China seems to get free pass all the time
        I thought the sanctions on Russia had to do with the problems in Ukraine, Syria and supposed election interference. China is not involved in any of those AFAIK. Besides, this is military tech espionage. They do that all the time.

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          The US has shown that it is willing to lie through its teeth against great power rivals. Wapo is a propaganda sheet. Josh Rogin has connections directly with the cia and military. They are setting China up for sanctions.

          China is probably not blatantly stealing all of this stuff and leaving tracks all the way back to China. But it makes for good propaganda while China is modernizing and building a blue water navy
          Last edited by KGB; 12th June 2018, 04:51.

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            #6
            More like Seawolf or Virginia style designs. I believe the US is 1.5+ generations ahead of the PRC when it comes to SSN quietening. PRC has a very quiet SSK in the 039B(C?) but not when it comes to SSN. 093A/B are probably between LA 688 and 688i (Just my speculation) while the rest of the world has Seawolf, Virginia, Astute, Yasen etc.
            Russia is on par or better in sub tech and it would probably sell its expertise to China.

            I thought the sanctions on Russia had to do with the problems in Ukraine, Syria and supposed election interference. China is not involved in any of those AFAIK. Besides, this is military tech espionage. They do that all the time.
            The Magnitsky Act was signed into law by Obama in 2012 which was the first salvo in the new cold war.
            Last edited by KGB; 12th June 2018, 04:49.

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              #7
              Originally posted by KGB View Post
              Russia is on par or better in sub tech and it would probably sell its expertise to China.
              Latest SSN and SSBN tech? No way! Those things are strategic assets and no chance in hell will Russia ever share expertise on Yasen and Borei class submarines. Russia might be willing provide expertise on submarine tech that they consider a generation behind. But China will have to face Seawolf and Virginia class SSN, which puts the PLAN at a severe disadvantage.

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                #8
                ^You could be right. Russia has no designs on the blue water. A Chinese blue water navy would serve them better than the USA does. The sooner that the USN has a counter balance out there, the better. But yes maybe they draw the line at subs

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                  The Chinese have very quiet SSKs when running on batteries. There isn't a Chinese submarine in existence with a decently quiet main propulsion system. And their aux service and support systems are noisy too!

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