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  • mfranjic
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    • Feb 2017
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    "Zubr"-class LCAC (Project 12322)

    Although it was recently reported by Izvestia that Russia is set to resume the construction of the "Zubr"-class LCAC (Project 12322); Russian: Десантний корабель проекту 12322 "Зубр" - МДКВП, air-cushion landing craft already in 2018, it seems that Russian shipbuilders, according to what is said by the representatives of JSC "CMDB "Almaz" (АО "ЦМКБ "Алмаз") from Saint Petersburg and PO More Shipbuilding Yard (ФГУП "СЗ "Море") from Feodosia, the shipyards that were formerly building these vessels, could be able to keep on with the construction of the vessels only by 2019-2021. Representatives cited the lack of availability of and inability to mass-produce key components, most notably gas turbine engines and reduction gears as the main obstacles. Gas turbines and diesel generators were made in Ukraine, then the latter were replaced by the Swedish ones. Reduction gears could be supplied by St. Petersburg plant JSC "ZVEZDA" (ПАО "Звезда"), but, at this stage, it is obvious that the test results of the first Russian mass-produced maritime gas turbines must be awaited.

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    The JSC "CMDB "Almaz" is ready to build "Zubr"-class ships, but the yard will need to employ experts and is able to find them promptly, but also need to buy additional equipment. PJSC "UEC-Saturn" (ПАО "ОДК-Сатурн") plans to finish development works on the substitution of imported Ukrainian gas turbine engines and complete the tests by December 2017, since 2014 conducting three design research and development projects for engines M90FR, Agregat-DKVP (experimental test design on the base of M70FRU GTE for the development of the GTE M70FRU-2 and shipsGTAs M35R-1, M35R-2 and M70R) and M70FRU-R GTE with the reversible power turbine. Saturn-made engines M70FRU-2 and M90FR were made to substitute Ukrainian analogs DS71 (UGT 6004R) and DA91 (UGT 15000+), respectively D090 (UGT15000R) GTE, along with the mentioned DS71 (UGT 6004R), the main component of the M27 main power plant of the "Neustrashimyy"-class frigate (Project 11540 "Yastreb").

    It was promised to start batch production of marine gas turbines in 2018. Among some other informations, it was said that the Russian powerplants are heavier than the Ukrainian ones, so the technical projects needed alterations.

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    .................................................. ...........Hellenic Navy "Zubr"- class LCAC vessel - HS "Corfu" (L 182)

    Anyhow, the issue with the contractor is being considered and it was planned to invite the JSC "CMDB "Almaz" (АО "ЦМКБ "Алмаз") shipbuilding plant in St. Petersburg, PO More Shipbuilding Yard (ФГУП "СЗ "Море") from Feodosia, JSC "Khabarovsk shipbuilding Plant" (OАО "Хабаровский судостроительный завод") and possibly Kaliningrad-based JSC "Shipyard "Yantar" (АО "Прибалтийский судостроительный завод "Янтарь") to participate in the tender. All these enterprises were building or maintaining the vessels of a such type at a different times. JSC "CMDB "Almaz" is certainly the front-runner in the list. At one time, it built "Zubr"-class craft for the Soviet Navy. The plant also participated in the delivery of the Project 12322 ships to Greece. Meanwhile, it is currently busy building floating cranes and border guard ships. Feodosias PO More Shipbuilding Yard had built two "Zubr"-class ships for China under Ukroboronproms contract before the return of Crimea to Russia. There is still one incomplete hull of the air-cushion ship at the enterprise. In 2004-2006, JSC "Khabarovsk shipbuilding Plant" built the "Murena"-class (Project 12061) boats for South Korea. The JSC "Shipyard "Yantar" in Kaliningrad has also been invited to participate in the tender since the company has experience in repairing "Evgeny Kocheshkov" (770), one of the two "Zubr"-class ships operational with the Baltic Fleet. However, as the Command noted, the invitation of this enterprise to the tender is rather a formality because JSC "Shipyard "Yantar" will soon focus on completing three "Admiral Grigorovich"-class (Project 11356R/M) frigates. Their construction was frozen because of Ukraines refusal to supply the SE GTRPC "Zorya"-"Mashproekt" made power plants pre-paid by Russia. According to the available information, PO More Shipbuilding Yard has not been instructed to resume the production of "Zubr"-class landing craft yet. There were some talks in 2014, soon after Crimeas reintegration into Russia, but they have never materialized. The PO More Shipbuilding Yards officials added that the company possessed both the staff and the production experience of Project 12322 LCAC ships, they still advise Chinese shipbuilders, and in fact they havent really closed the "Zubr" project yet. JSC "CMDB "Almaz" shipbuilding plant from St. Petersburg is a "heavy favorite" to get this job just because they are excellent professionals, but they havent worked on "Zubr" project for over ten years, while PO More Shipbuilding Yard from Feodosia practically continued works making ships for China. Personally, I would love both shipyards to get the part of the order, but Im not sure how profitable it would be to invest in continuing the production of the same vessel shared by two different shipyards.

    Otherwise, "Zubr"–class (Project 12322) small-size air-cushion landing ship has been developed by JSC "CMDB "Almaz" (АО "ЦМКБ "Алмаз") since 1978. The ships prototype was built in 1986 and commissioned by the Soviet Navy two years later.

    Displacing 555 t / 546,2 LT, the ship is 57,3 m / 188 ft long, 25,6 m / 84 ft wide and 21,9 m / 71,9 ft high, with the draft of 1,6 m / 5,2 ft, powered by high-temperature gas turbine engines (M35 marine propulsion plant). The ship is capable to accomodate 3 tanks of a total mass of up to 150 t / 147,6 LT or 10 armored personnel carriers with a total mass of up to 131 t / 128,9 LT or 8 infantry fighting vehicles of a total mass of up to 115 t / 113,2 LT or 8 floating tanks. To accommodate the personnel of the landing force transported on combat vehicles of infantry or armored personnel carriers, four rooms for 140 seats were provided. Instead of the military equipment, the landing equipment can be equipped with removable benches to accommodate an additional 360 people (500 people in total). Landing is possible on any unprepared shore. In addition to the amphibious lift, the "Zubr"–class vessels can plant minefields and, if necessary, provide fire support to the amphibious force.

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    .................................................. ....770 "Evgeny Kocheshkov" (former MDK-50) and 782 "Mordoviya" (former MDK-94)

    The "Zubr"–class (Project 12322) small-size air-cushion landing ship is armed by:

    - 2 x 22 x 140 mm retractable launcher PU-MS-227 RSZO A-22 "Огонь" (132 rounds OF-45, ZZh-45) with the control system DVU-3;
    - 2 x 6 x 30 mm rotary cannon AK-630M (3.000 rounds) with the control system MR-123-01 "Вымпел"
    - 1 x 2 PU MTU-2 SAM "Игла-1М" (ammunition between 8 and 32 SAMs);

    Another feature of the "Zubr"–class vessels is a reduced visibility for radars. This effect was achieved due to the fact that the ship moves in a giant cloud of spray that "blurs" its outlines on the radar screens. By the beginning of the 1990s, the Soviet Navy had operated eight "Zubr"–class vessels. After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine inherited five of them and Russia three.

    The main power plant (propulsion system) of the "Zubr"-class (Project 12322) air-cushion landing craft (LCAC) is the marine propulsion plant of the type M35, manufactured by SE GTRPC "Zorya"-"Mashproekt" (ГП НПКГ "Зоря"-"Машпроект"). It includes three thrust gas turbine aggregates of the type M35-1 and two air injection gas turbine aggregates of type M35-2, with the total power of approximately 50.000 PS at an ambient temperature of + 15 C. The mass of the whole installation reaches 28.550 kg, the fuel consumption on the average does not exceed 159 kg/nm, and the specific fuel consumption of the M35 GTA is 190 g/hph (255 g/kWh). Otherwise, Soviet-designed gas turbine engines DP71 (by Ukrainian classification – UGT6002) were developed and produced by SE GTRPC "Zorya"-"Mashproekt" in Nikolayev since 1978.

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    .................................................. ........................M35 Marine Propulsion System

    - thrust system, with the three gas turbine aggregate of type M35-1, each composed of SE GTRPC "Zorya"-"Mashproekt" DP71 (UGT 6002) three-shaft gas turbine (engine architecture: ]G[–8LPC=9HPC1HPT=1LPT–3PwrT), OPR: 14,5:1, each rated at 9.857 hp (9.993 PS) / 7.350 kW, propulsion propellers two-stage cylindrical gearbox RO35-10 (gear ratio: 9; output speed: 800 rpm) produced by SPE "Mashproekt n. a. S.D.Kolosov" (НПП "Машпроект им. С.Д. Колосова") and 4-blade reversible variable-pitch air propellers АV-98 of 5,5 m / 18 ft in diameter, with forced step control and placed in the ring nozzles. The screw control unit is AU-4, manufactured just as the propellers by OJSC "SPE "Aerosila" (ОАО "НПП "Аэросила"). The mass of the propeller is 660 kg / 1.455 lb and it develops 73,06 kN / 7.450 kgf / 16.424 lbf of thrust at 800 rpm. The propellers are installed in the aft rings, located around the stern, with a diameter of about 6 m / 19,7 ft and were made of special polymeric materials. The ring nozzles were produced by SE "Sudkompozit" (ГП "КТБ "Судкомпозит").



    - air cushion inflating system, with the two gas turbine aggregate of type M35-2, each composed of SE GTRPC "Zorya"-"Mashproekt" DP71 (UGT 6002) three-shaft gas turbine (engine architecture: ]G[–8LPC=9HPC1HPT=1LPT–3PwrT), OPR: 14,5:1, each rated at rated at 9.857 hp (9.993 PS) / 7.350 kW, lowering intermidiate gearbox RO35-20 (gear ratio: 3,05; output speed: 3.260 rpm) of a nominal power of 10.000 hp, two axial impellers type NO-10 of 2,5 m / 8,2 ft in diameter, two impellers gearboxes RO35-21 and RO35-22 (gear ratio: 1,84; output speed: 1.285 rpm), with a nominal power of 5.000 hp.

    It is clear now, given that the DP71 (UGT 6002) GTE is not available anymore, that it will be replaced by M70FRU-2 GTE, recently presented by PJSC "UEC-Saturn", and which design and engines architecture are based on the already existing M70FRU and Е70/8RD marine GTEs...

    The United Engine Corporation - UEC (Объединенная двигателестроительная корпорация - ОДК) commissioned Russia's first complex which includes assembly shop and test stand of the gas turbine engines (GTE) and aggregates (GTA) for offshore programs based on the PJSC "UEC-Saturn" (ПАО "ОДК-Сатурн") in Rybinsk, where the testing of the gas turbine aggregate M35R-1 with the two M70FRU-2 gas turbines was recently launched. The need to replace gas turbine engines for surface ships arose in 2014 after the events in Ukraine, since they were previously supplied by the SE GTRPC "Zorya"-"Mashproekt" (ГП НПКГ "Зоря"-"Машпроект") from Nikolaev.

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    .................................................. ....................Gas turbine engine M70FRU-2

    Consequently, the prospect of completion of the latest two "Admiral Grigorovich"-class (Project 11356R/M) frigates (124,8 m / 409,4 ft; 3.620 t / 3.562,8 LT), "Admiral Butakov" and "Admiral Istomin", and which were being built for the Black Sea Fleet was rather questionable. Thus, in October 2016, on the sidelines of the BRICS Summit in Goa, Russia and India formally agreed to transfer the remaining two ships to the Indian Navy as "Talwar"-class ships of which six were already built and delivered. However, on 01. Jun 2017 JSC "United Shipbuilding Corporation" (АО "Объединённая судострои́тельная корпора́ция") announced that it would resume the construction of the three remaining frigates, "Admiral Butakov", "Admiral Istomin" and "Admiral Kornilov", in 2018, and which will be assigned to the Baltic Fleet, unlike those first three, planned to be integrated into the Black Sea Fleet.

    The initial three frigates of the class, "Admiral Grigorovich" (745), "Admiral Essen" (751) and "Admiral Makarov" (799), managed to get SE GTRPC "Zorya"-"Mashproekt" propulsion plant of the type M7N1 (2-shaft COGAG) which includes two cruise DS71 (UGT 6004R) three-shaft gas turbines (engine architecture: 8LPC–9HPC1HPT–1LPT(3+3R)PwrT–]G[), OPR: 15,0:1, each rated at 9.857 hp (9.993 PS) / 7.350 kW ahead and 1.502 hp (1.523 PS) / 1.120 kW astern, two boost DT59 (UGT 16004R) three-shaft gas turbines (engine architecture: 7LPC–9HPC2HPT–2LPT(2+3R)PwrT–]G[), OPR: 13,5:1, each rated at 22.194 hp (22.502 PS) / 16.550 kW ahead and 4.492 hp (4.555 PS) / 3.350 kW astern, as and R058, R063 and R1063 gearboxes, all designed and made in Ukraine by SE GTRPC "Zorya"-"Mashproekt".

    It remains to be seen which combination of the GTEs will be included in the future propulsion plant of the type M7N1 (2-shaft COGAG) for those remaining "Admiral Grigorovich"-class frigates. The package with two cruise M70FRU-2 two-shaft GTEs (engine architecture: 10HPC2HPT3PwrT–]G[), rated at 9.857 hp (9.993 PS) / 7.350 kW and two M70FRU boost GTEs (engine architecture: 10HPC2HPT3PwrT–]G[), rated at 13.808 hp (14.000 PS) / 10.297 kW wouldnt be of a sufficient power output in comparison with the previous package with DS71 and DT59 GTEs. Maybe the combination of two boost M90FR three-shaft GTEs (engine architecture: 9LPC–10HPC1HPT–1LPT4PwrT–]G[), OPR: 20,0:1, each rated at 27.089 hp (27.464 PS) / 20.200 kW and two cruise M75RU two-shaft GTEs (engine architecture: 9HPC2HPT2PwrT–]G[), rated at 6.904 hp (7.000 PS) / 5.148 kW could be the right choice, but the main problem is that none of the curently existing turbines produced by PJSC "UEC-Saturn" has reversible power turbine. Otherwise, the first tests of the trial GTE M75RU, which became the first Russian naval turboshaft engine, took place in 2003. The decree of the state trial board certifying the GTE M75RU with the maximum output of 7.000 PS was signed on the 25. Nov 2006. The M70FRU gas turbine engines testing was successfully completed in August 2008 and on 23. Oct 2008 it was certified on the maximum output of 14.000 PS. On its basis, GTE M70FRU-R ("reverse") with a reversible power turbine has been designed.


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    .................................................. ........................M7N1 Marine Propulsion System


    ................................DS71 (UGT 6004R) gas turbine engine ...............................................DT59 (UGT 16004R) gas turbine engine

    Non-delivery of the GTEs from Ukraine was also one of the main reasons for the delay in construction of the new "Admiral Gorshkov"-class (Project 22350) frigates (135,0 m / 442,9 ft; 4.500 t / 4.428,9 LT). The first two Project 22350 vessels, "Admiral Gorshkov" (417) and "Admiral Kasatonov" (431), feature combined diesel and gas (2-shaft CODAG) M55R propulsion plants that consist of two booster SE GTRPC "Zorya"-"Mashproekt" DA91 (UGT 15000+) three-shaft gas turbines (engine architecture: 9LPC–10HPC1HPT–1LPT4PwrT–]G[), OPR: 20,0:1, each rated at 26.820 hp (27.192 PS) / 20.000 kW, two Russian PJSC "Kolomensky Zavod" 10D49 four-stroke turbocharged diesel engines and SE GTRPC "Zorya"-"Mashproekt" made R055 gearboxes.

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    .................................................. ........................M55R Marine Propulsion System


    ...........................10D49 diesel engine.................................................. ...........................................DA91 (UGT 15000+) gas turbine engine

    Those remaining "Admiral Gorshkov"-class frigates (a series of six Project 22350 frigtates is expected to join the Russian Navy by 2025), "Admiral Golovko", "Admiral Isakov"… will be powered by the same, M55R, propulsion plant but it will be including two cruise PJSC "Kolomensky Zavod" (ОАО "Коломенский завод") 10D49 four-stroke turbocharged diesel engines (eng. architecture: 42V 16-cylinder; eng. displacement: 220.867 cm3 / 13.478,1 in3 * bore: 260,0 mm / 10,24 in, stroke: 260,0 mm / 10,24 in), CR: 13,5:1, rated at 5.129 hp (5.201 PS) / 3.825 kW at 1.000 rpm and two boost PJSC "UEC-Saturn" M90FR three-shaft gas turbines (engine architecture: 9LPC–10HPC1HPT–1LPT4PwrT–]G[), OPR: 20,0:1, each rated at 27.089 hp (27.464 PS) / 20.200 kW.
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    ..............................M70FRU gas turbine engine.................................................. ...................M90FR gas turbine engine

    For the comparison and as the refernce; MT30 three-shaft aeroderivative marine gas turbine (engine architecture: 8IPC–6HPC1HPT–1IPT4PwrT), OPR: 23,98:1, rated at 48.277 hp (48.946 PS) / 36.000 kW is the worlds most powerful in-service marine gas turbine, developed from Rollce-Royce Trent 800 three-shaft high-bypass turbofan engine, aimed for the Boeing 777 aircrafts propulsion. Otherwise, Rollce-Royce MT30 is the engine of choice for the naval platforms including the Royal Navys "Queen Elizabeth" Aircraft Carrier and Type 26 frigate, the US Navys Freedom-class littoral combat ship and DDG-1000 "Zumwalt"-class advanced destroyer, Republic of Korea Navys Incheon-class FFX-II frigate and the Italian Navys new Multirole Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD).

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    .................................................. .............................Rolls-Royce MT30 gas turbine engine

    Both of the mentioned frigate classes I find just great and very powerful vessels. Still, If I could choose the propulsion package for the "Admiral Gorshkov"- class (Project 22350) frigates myself, it would be either CoDAG system consisted of two cruise MTU 20V 1163 M94 four-stroke turbocharged diesel engines (eng. architecture: 60V 16-cylinder; eng. displacement: 232.666 cm3 / 14.198,15 in3 * bore: 230,0 mm / 9,06 in, stroke: 280,0 mm / 11,02 in), CR: 12,3:1, rated at 9.924 hp (10.061PS) / 7.400 kW at 1.325 rpm and two boost PJSC "UEC-Saturn" M90FR gas turbines, each rated at 27.089 hp (27.464 PS) / 20.200 kW or CoDAD system, consisted of four MTU 20V 8000 M91L four-stroke turbocharged diesel engines (eng. architecture: 48V 20-cylinder; eng. displacement: 347.474 cm3 / 21.204,16 in3 * bore: 265,0 mm / 10,43 in, stroke: 315,0 mm / 12,40 in), CR: 17,2:1, rated at 13.410 hp (13.596 PS) / 10.000 kW at 1.150 rpm…


    ................."Admiral Grigorovich"- class (Project 11356R/M) frigate......................................"Admiral Gorshkov"- class (Project 22350) frigate

    The first M90FR GTEs are to be produced and installed on the third ship of the class, "Admiral Golovko", in 2017. Total of between 8 and 15 ships of the "Admiral Gorshkov"- class frigates are planned for the Russian Navy. The fourth frigate, "Admiral Isakov", has been launched in Novemebr 2013. All the ships are to be constructed at St. Petersburg’s JSC "Severnoye Design Bureau" (АО "Северное ПКБ") shipyard, with the initial four to serve with Russia’s Northern Fleet…

    The basis of the assembly and testing complex, I have previously mentioned, consists of two stands: the first, with a capacity of up to 15 MW and the second with a capacity up to 40 MW. Technological solutions incorporated in the design of the facility allow the testing of more than 20 different configurations of the vessels aggregates. Thereat it is possible to test both the whole power plant and its components (for example, a diesel-gas turbine unit including a diesel engine, a gas turbine engine, a ship gearbox, local control systems). One of the features of the unique complex is the maximum automation of work processes, in particular, the system for collecting measurement information.

    As a part of the creation of a Russian base for the marine gas turbine construction, experimental design work is being carried out which will allow in the next year to switch to the serial production of the M70FRU, M70FRU-2, M70FRU-R ("reverse") and M90FR GTEs, M35R and M70 GTAs, gas turbine and diesel-gas turbine units, all on the basis of the perspective products with modernized gearboxes and control systems to support the construction of ships of the Navy Fleet of Russia.

    PJSC "UEC-Saturn" is currently carrying out three experimental and design works of the marine theme:

    - research and development for mastering the serial production of the M90FR GTE with an output of 27.089 hp (27.464 PS) / 20.200 kW. This GTE was developed by JSC "Turborus" (ЗАО "Турборус") where it has successfully passed testing still in 2006, and DGTA on its basis, in 2008. JSC "Turborus" (ЗАО "Турборус") was a joint Russian-Ukrainian enterprise established in 1993 to solve the tasks of combining the efforts of Russian and Ukrainian enterprises to develop, supply, repair and service marine GTEs and GTAs on their basis for the Russian Navy. The founders on the Russian side were JSC NPO "Saturn" (ОАО "НПО Сатурн") from Rybinsk, "FGUP JSC Avrora" (ФГУП НПО "Аврора") from St. Petersburg and CJSC RPCE "Turbocon" (ЗАО НПВП "Турбокон") from Kaluga, and from the Ukrainian side, SE GTRPC "Zorya"-"Mashproekt" (ГП НПКГ "Зоря"-"Машпроект").

    - research and development of the GTE M70FRU-2 and ships GTAs M35R-1, M35R-2 and M70R. The first two GTAs are intended for use in the world's largest air-cushion vehicle as a propeller and impeller drive. The unit includes the M70FRU-2 gas turbine, a gearbox, transmissions and a control system. The feature of the PJSC "UEC-Saturn" M70FRU-2 is increased performance, efficiency and the overhaul life in comparison with previously used analogs. This GTE is small and designed for amphibious assault ships, missile boats and other small displacement ships.

    - research and development of the M70FRU-R GTE with a reversible power turbine, as a replacement of foreign-made engines in operation on Russian ships. At present, experimental and pilot gas turbine engines are already manufactured. The work for all research and development is carried out in strict accordance with the approved schedules.

    Together with PJSC "UEC-Saturn", in the implementation of the maritime programs, take part the companies as the JSC "Gas-Turbine Engineering RPC "Salut" (ОДК АО "НПЦ газотурбостроения "Салют"), JSC "ODK-STAR" (АО "ОДК-СТАР") as well as a number of other enterprises and branch institutes like FGUP "TsIAM n.a. P.I. Baranov" (ФГУП "ЦИАМ им. П.И. Баранова"), JSC "Zavod "Phiolent" (АО "Завод "Фиолент"), JSC NPO "Molniya" (ОАО УНПП "Молния") as and some others…

    There is no room for the doubt that Russia has found itself in a very unenviable situation after the break with the Ukraine and this is just another and very clear proof in what extent Russia was relying on the Ukrainian military industry and supreme factories like SC "Antonov" (ДП "АНТОНОВ"), Ivchenko-Progress ZMKB (ЗМКБ Прогрес ім. О.Г.Івченка), PJSC "Motor Sich" (ВАТ "Мотор Січ") and SE GTRPC "Zorya"-"Mashproekt" (ГП НПКГ "Зоря"-"Машпроект"). It is very hard to compensate the production of all those GTE series, GTAs packages, gearboxes and all other equipment in a short time, but I strongly believe Russia has a full potential, resources and wide technological, human and professional bases to design and produce everything necessary for their vessels propulsion.

    Everyone included in this story have lost a lot. Russia will find its way out, but it will take several more years of very hard work. On the other side, by my humble opinion, Ukrainian factories are sentenced to a slight and severe disappearance or just very difficult and painful survival. Once more, politics got involved, and then again; all this is in the service of the protection of the same one …

    Kind regards

    Mario
    Last edited by mfranjic; 25th July 2017, 20:44.
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    • TR1
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      • Oct 2010
      • 9826

      I find the recent media talk of new Zubrs to be strange, as the subject was not visited with much detail a few years back, when money was more available and relations with Ukraine better.

      I think the priority is to get new engines and reduction gears to fix the Baltic Zubrs, which seems to be "grounded" as of late.
      There is also one Zubr @ Feodisya, I posted photos of it recently, though I am unsure what shape it is in and if engines are the limiting factor in getting it back.
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      • TR1
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        • Oct 2010
        • 9826

        http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2736238.html

        Sovershenny arrived @ Vladivostock, the first surface combatant the Pacific Fleet has received in decades.

        Wish I could see the parade in Kronshdadt this year, looks glorious, with Dmitry Donskoy and Peter the Great on the way as well:







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        • Vitte
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          • Mar 2016
          • 15

          Corvette Sovershennyy for the first time comes to Vladivostok to raise the flag.

          https://www.youtube.com/user/Vitalicus75

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          • TR1
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            • Oct 2010
            • 9826

            Chinese ships have arrived in the Baltic:





            The parade there should be quite a sight this year, I hope they can fit the Chinese ships in.

            On the way to the parade: the biggest tug, biggest cruiser, and biggest submarine in the world:





            Video of their passage:

            https://vk.com/videos-123538639?z=vi..._-123538639_-2
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            • TR1
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              • Oct 2010
              • 9826

              Unrelated:

              http://files.balancer.ru/forums/atta...32209330-o.jpg

              Gorshkov apparently deploying with the Ka-52K at some point recently.



              And an image of the new project 21180 icebreaker leaving. You can see the Baltic Shipyard line up- Chernomyrdin in front, behind it the Academic Lomonosov, and looming behind that, the bridge of the Arkitka.

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              • TR1
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                • Oct 2010
                • 9826

                The new 22160 "patrol ship" or whatever it is:

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                • TR1
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                  • Oct 2010
                  • 9826

                  Submarine cat:









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                  • Sab3r329
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                    • Apr 2016
                    • 91

                    @TR1

                    Any idea from what sub it was? In one of the photos it looks like the cat was near a control station, a modern one.

                    Also, am I the only one who likes Project 20386? I've been watching Leo1s thread at SB.

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                    • Yama
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                      • Feb 2012
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                      Finnish photographer Leif Rosas took these, and was signaled from getting too close:
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                      • QuantumFX
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                        • Dec 2008
                        • 1832

                        Originally posted by TR1 View Post
                        Submarine cat:
                        why is it allowed to stay near controls even if the sub is just parked at port?

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                        • TR1
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                          • Oct 2010
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                          Who is going to tell the captain to get off his chair?

                          Sub is 636.6 I think, or earlier 887.

                          Yama, wow nice pics, too bad they are not higher res. Peter is a true floating fortress. Also, interesting to see the 14.5mm MG mounts all around the sides, don't recall seeing so many before.
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                          • Trident
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                            • May 2004
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                            Atomic Kitten! She has the launch codes!
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                            • TR1
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                              • Oct 2010
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                              The giants arriving:











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                              • archangelski
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                                • Jul 2013
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                                Drone footage (in HD) of "Peter the Great" and "Dmitry Donskoy" at Kronstadt : https://topspb.tv/news/2017/07/26/vi...koj-v-full-hd/

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                                • TR1
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                                  • Oct 2010
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                                  Btw, that cat in the sub seem dangerous to you?

                                  Check out this cat @ the Zaliv shipyard, back in 2013:



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                                  • QuantumFX
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                                    • Dec 2008
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                                    Originally posted by TR1 View Post
                                    Btw, that cat in the sub seem dangerous to you?

                                    Check out this cat @ the Zaliv shipyard, back in 2013:

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                                    • TR1
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                                      • Oct 2010
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                                      http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2756747.html

                                      Gromky launched. Positively lightning pace compared to the first 20380 built there. Amur did used to be a very speedy shipyard, hopefully it regains some of this speed.

                                      http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2757101.html

                                      First two 636.6 subs laid down for the Pacific Fleet @ Admirality.

                                      http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2757127.html

                                      And the 7th 885 laid down @ Sevmash.
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                                      • TR1
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                                        • Oct 2010
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                                        So, the Uragan is launched, and Pella officially is VMF's newest combat ship provider:

















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                                        • TR1
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                                          • Oct 2010
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                                          https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3371787

                                          MOD is planning to give Amur a contract in 2018 for 6 22800s for the Pacific Fleet.
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