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  • TR1
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    • Oct 2010
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    http://vpk.name/news/169110_shestuyu...akustikoi.html

    Hmm. Apparently the last of the 636.6 series, Kolpino has an improved hydro-acoustic complex. The next 6 ships will also be fitted with it (for the Pacific Fleet, to be delivered by 2021-2022).
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    • Austin
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      Malachite SSN/SSGN Husky



      "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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      • TR1
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        • Oct 2010
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        Kulashev posted photos from the Pella shipyard:

        http://kuleshovoleg.livejournal.com/513762.html

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        • TR1
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          Size comparison:

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          • Austin
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            • Oct 2003
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            NATO hunting at least one Russian Navy Oscar II Class submarine that is chasing aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean Sea

            https://theaviationist.com/2016/12/0...terranean-sea/
            "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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            • Jinan
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              • May 2013
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              Originally posted by Austin View Post
              NATO hunting at least one Russian Navy Oscar II Class submarine that is chasing aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean Sea

              https://theaviationist.com/2016/12/0...terranean-sea/
              "Hunting"is a big word, with a negative connotation. "Keeping track of" would be more appropriate.
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              • Zare
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                • Dec 2006
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                Hunt is a wrong word, since NATO doesn't intent forcing a VMF submarine to surface, or sink one for that matter.

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                • TR1
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                  Originally posted by Jinan View Post
                  "Hunting"is a big word, with a negative connotation. "Keeping track of" would be more appropriate.
                  Trying to keep track off, to be more accurate .

                  Actually it would be interesting to check where the 949 fleet is currently disposed. There have been times in the past Western sources claimed they were tracking Russian subs, or thought they were nearby or something, but the entirety of the flee was actually in dock/repair/pier-side lol.
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                  • nastle
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                    • Feb 2005
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                    flashback to cold war 80s
                    the soviet navy kept the obsolete Kresta I and Kynda class cruisers with their aging SSN-3b shaddock missiles operational until the late 80s, while a lot of the older ECHO class subs had either been retired or converted the much more capable bazalt and vulkan missiles.
                    I'm assuming the Kynda and Kresta I were kept in service as they could be useful in a big nuclear war at sea ? as they each carried 2 TNW in their SSN-3 missiles ? apart from this role I see no benefit in using the conventional SSN-3b when much better missiles like SSN-9/7/12 are plentiful on other surface ships and subs ?
                    any thoughts

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                    • Yama
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                      • Feb 2012
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                      I don't think it had much if anything to do with potential use of nuclear warheads. Echo II was obsolete by 1980's, it was built to 1950's paradigm, a small mass-produced boat, not particularly fast and certainly not quiet design. Also the boat had to surface to fire Shaddocks (not sure about later missiles), a major handicap.

                      Krestas carried only small missile load but they had good area AAW capabilities, not too common in Soviet surface combatants. Also they had helicoptes. There probably simply was no plan to upgrade those ships as they were going out anyway, most of them were decommissioned even before USSR disintegrated and Kyndas were next to go other than Golovko.

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                      • nastle
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                        • Feb 2005
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                        Did the kyndas pose a significant ASUW threat to modern ships in the 80s ?
                        I mean they might be equivalent to some destroyers in service with Turkish navy but were the conventional shaddocks essentially obsolete by then? And what I meant was the only possible use of these ships in 80s might be as single mission to launch a single strike with some TNW on a NATO SAG before they are taken out ? Your thoughts?

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                        • TR1
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                          So apparently Chernomordyn has made some progress after being stuck for a few years:



                          And the last of the 3 Project 21900M icebreakers has been handed over. All 3 were laid down in 2012.
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                          • TR1
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                            And finally, the Chernomyrdyn has been launched:












                            And the larger stablemate, Arkitka taking shape:



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                            • TR1
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                              • Scar
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                                Zvezdochka released a videoreport of "Marshal Ustinov" repair and moderniaztion.

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                                • Vitte
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                                  PRIBALTIKA SSV-80 in the dock 2014

                                  https://www.youtube.com/user/Vitalicus75

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                                  • TR1
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                                    BSF new subs are receiving Fizik torpedoes:



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                                    • Austin
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                                      • Oct 2003
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                                      Service Life Extension of Project 667BDR & 667BDRM Submarines Makes No Sense - Rubin CEO

                                      http://navyrecognition.com/index.php...rubin-ceo.html
                                      "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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                                      • Austin
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                                        Details on VLS Shtil-1

                                        http://bastion-opk.ru/shtil/
                                        "Shtil 1" is used 9M317ME guided missile, which is a further development of the land ammunition SAM "Buk". Solid rocket 9M317ME located in TPK MS-487. This single-stage rocket with solid engine, having a length of 5.18 meters and a body diameter of not more than 360 millimeters. In the tail of the rocket has wheels with 820 mm scale. When starting a weight of around 580 kg of anti-aircraft missile 9M317ME carries 62-pound fragmentation warhead.

                                        On the munition trajectory accelerates to speeds of the order of 1500-1550 meters per second. The main difference from previous 9M317ME missile anti-aircraft ammunition, "Buk" family is the way to run and a number of related design nuances. At the command of the anti-aircraft missile complex operator using the powder charge is fired from the TPK to a height of about 10 meters above the deck of the ship. At this altitude the rocket using its own gas rudders performs complete rotation in the direction of the target, after which include main engine and guidance system. The main difference between anti-aircraft guided missiles 9M317ME from its onshore counterpart act significantly reduced wings, folding aerodynamic control surfaces and the presence of a special unit of gas rudders, which is located on the nozzle block sustainer solid propellant. It is the unit responsible for the automatic rejection of the missile towards the target after launch.

                                        SAM has a dual-mode sustainer engine, which allows it to reach speeds of up to 1550 m / s, the maximum range of the missile - 50 km. This provides the possibility of using rocket-corrected inertial control system, with a new Doppler semi-active radar homing (GOS). The onboard equipment of antiaircraft missile is built on a fundamentally new element base and has expanded functions to adapt to working conditions that ensure maximum probability of hitting targets in conditions of strong opposition from the radar of the enemy. SAM is equipped with high-explosive fragmentation warhead weighing 62 kg. The missile is equipped with contact and proximity fuses. The TPK without routine maintenance missile can be stored up to 15 years.
                                        "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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                                        • JangBoGo
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                                          • Jan 2011
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                                          Originally posted by Austin View Post
                                          Service Life Extension of Project 667BDR & 667BDRM Submarines Makes No Sense - Rubin CEO

                                          http://navyrecognition.com/index.php...rubin-ceo.html
                                          Well....I would like to disagree and post my humble opinion.

                                          The 667 has evolved from 667A, B, BD, BDR and the final and with a completely different bow from BDR, the BDRM. I don't know in what context they are saying it makes no sense. Probably as a ballistic missile submarine. But my view has been (and I think I had posted it earlier as well) to convert the BDRM into a cruise missile carrying platform. Its better to have a 667BDRM with atleast 64 x Kaliber missiles at its disposal rather than having to send small corvettes or a 636 with just 4-8 x Kaliber to an operational theatre. This option need to be explored rather than doing away with it.

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