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  • stealthflanker
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    • Sep 2015
    • 1026

    I'd actually like to see more Vepr or Bars being built. But well i guess Yasen must have her way now :3

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    • Ivan Colorado
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      • May 2016
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      Kuznetsov group enters the English Channel!

      https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels...MMSI-273531629

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      • TR1
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        • Oct 2010
        • 9826

        Some nice pics of BSF surface combatants:





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        • YU1
          YU1
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          • Feb 2011
          • 241

          Project 09787 submarine (mother-ship for deep-diving special nuclear submarines) has left for sea trials.
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          • archangelski
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            • Jul 2013
            • 2385

            Kuznetsov :

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ueBv69MsFY

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            • ijozic
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              • May 2014
              • 613

              Originally posted by Yama View Post
              P-1000 Vulkan is rumoured to have land-attack capability, and it was claimed that Moskva attacked Georgian targets with them during 2008 war (though personally I believe the report is incorrect).
              A rudimentary land attack capability wouldn't be very hard to implement, on a basic level it doesn't matter for the INS if the waypoints are over sea or over land. It's well possible that Granit has always had this capability.
              I don't see this as a given. Simply having INS only would be rather imprecise for cruise missiles the longer the range gets. Not to mention the terminal homing part - against ships it's relatively straightforward with their own radar seekers (if the navigation system brought them close enough with the help of some datalink updates), but the radar would be useless for ground targets. Modernization of these missiles also seems pointless given the much newer models becoming available, so I'd presume the information in the article is wrong.
              Last edited by ijozic; 23rd October 2016, 14:49.

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              • paralay
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                • Aug 2005
                • 1418

                The first shooting was carried out by complex targets position, situated in the depths of the North coast of the island archipelago of islands of Novaya Zemlya ", - said Sergei.


                http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2189400.html

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                • ijozic
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                  • May 2014
                  • 613

                  So, the targets were ships set in between some islands and the missiles had to fly flew over some ground to reach them which was the novelty worth mentioning it seems. Thanks for the update.

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                  • TR1
                    TR1
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                    • Oct 2010
                    • 9826

                    It says coastal target, not ships.
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                    • Austin
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                      • Oct 2003
                      • 6506

                      AntiShip missile are capable hitting Radio Contrast Target , So no surprise Shipwreck can hit land targets of certain types.

                      The first use of Russian Antiship missile against land target was by Indian Navy when in 1971 war a Missile Boat of Soviet Origin carrying early model Styx with 45 Km range hit Pakistani Oil Refinary near the coast based on radar reflection obtained of Oil Refinery and using Styx to guide to it , on the same raid it sank 3 ships of Pakistani navy
                      "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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                      • TR1
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                        • Oct 2010
                        • 9826

                        Photos of the special purpose sub Podmoskovye:











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                        • TR1
                          TR1
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                          • Oct 2010
                          • 9826

                          Some interesting footage of the Zaliv shipyard in Crimea:

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                          • wilhelm
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                            • Dec 2004
                            • 1658

                            Originally posted by TR1 View Post
                            Some interesting footage of the Zaliv shipyard in Crimea:

                            Nice footage.
                            Previously, Baltic Shipyard had the largest slipway, at 375m (usable length of 350m if I remember correctly) with a width of 40,5m. I have a copy of a document that specified the width, but am disinclined now to bother to scan and post it due to some sorry-assed trolling by the usual elsewhere. Either way, the US government, via the report below, agrees with that official figure.
                            MILITARY PRODUCT LINES: Kirov-class nuclear-powered cruisers. CIVILPRODUCT
                            LINES: Merchant ships; chemical tankers; nuclear-powered icebreakers; quick-freezingunits;
                            cooking boilers; sausage-making machines. The shipyard has presented designs for 40,000dwt
                            double hull tankers.

                            KEY TECH./EQUIPT. EMPLOYED: The shipyard has two open slipways one of 250m x30m
                            and a second of 375m x 40.5m. The latter is one of the largest in the former USSR. The yard
                            also has shops for castings and production of ship components such as large shafts and propellers.
                            Transport and storage of steel sections not suited for units of more than approximately 80metric
                            tons. Outfitting quay served by four cranes of 50 mt capacity; another 11 cranes of 50 mt
                            capacity serve the two open building ways.
                            http://fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/ind.../9607spd1.html

                            Zaliv surpasses that now with it's large drydock, visible in the video, of 360m long and 60m wide.
                            Have there been any official dimensions mentioned for the Zvezda modernisation in the Far East? All I've seen is that vessels up to 350 000t will be capable of being built, so reason says it will be larger than Zaliv. I've seen pictures of the Goliath style gantry cranes being delivered in other reports, but it is hard to gauge the dry dock length and width.
                            Any official statements other than tonnage?
                            Last edited by wilhelm; 26th October 2016, 18:55.

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                            • FBW
                              FBW
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                              • Dec 2011
                              • 3294

                              Originally posted by wilhelm View Post
                              Nice footage.
                              Previously, Baltic Shipyard had the largest slipway, at 375m (usable length of 350m if I remember correctly) with a width of 40,5m. I have a copy of a document that specified the width, but am disinclined now to bother to scan and post it due to some sorry-assed trolling by the usual elsewhere. Either way, the US government, via the report below, agrees with that official figure.

                              ?
                              Who's a troll? The FAS figure was taken out of a cold war book about Soviet naval yards, here are the actual measurements:
                              350x36 meters. Like I said Wilhelm there are people you can B.S., and people who know what they are talking about. Perhaps it's time to return to fairy tales at Russia defense.net
                              http://www.ship2yard.com/yard.php?idy=8242
                              https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content...istral_ppt.pdf
                              http://worldmaritimenews.com/archive...-project-2734/
                              http://www.transport-research.info/s...2007-02-02.pdf

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                              • TR1
                                TR1
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                                • Oct 2010
                                • 9826

                                The 20386 Derzki has been laid down, and surprisingly it actually does look like that show-model:





                                The Margunov is progressing at a lightning pace compared to its predecessor:



                                And just a couple interesting pics of the Shtorm SAM complex:



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                                • TR1
                                  TR1
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                                  • Oct 2010
                                  • 9826



                                  Arkitka fitting out.
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                                  • Scar
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                                    • Nov 2015
                                    • 682

                                    Originally posted by TR1 View Post
                                    The 20386 Derzki has been laid down, and surprisingly it actually does look like that show-model:
                                    Two questions regarding this CGI.
                                    1) Why not UKSK with Kalibr/Onyx missiles?
                                    2) Why only one AK-630 now?

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                                    • Scar
                                      Senior Member
                                      • Nov 2015
                                      • 682

                                      First 20386 has been laid down. But...5 years on corvette?!!!! 3400t of displacement?! WTF??? I hope this all is just misinformation.

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                                      • El_Indigo
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Jul 2006
                                        • 287

                                        All, Russian Dedicated AShM had capability to attack coastal targets. Why the hell is this even a surprise.

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                                        • wilhelm
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                                          • Dec 2004
                                          • 1658

                                          Originally posted by Scar View Post
                                          First 20386 has been laid down. But...5 years on corvette?!!!! 3400t of displacement?! WTF??? I hope this all is just misinformation.
                                          I see from the link:

                                          The ship, with a displacement of 3400 tons, length 109 and a width of 13 meters, capable of a speed of 30 knots. In addition to the ability to develop a high speed, "Defiant" is different from the next fellow increased cruising range - 5,000 nautical miles. This reduced the crew - 80 people in all.

                                          According to experts, due to the use of innovative technologies corvette "daring" project 20386 will be entirely new ship domestic fleet.
                                          The 20386 is supposed to be a variant of the Steregushchiy class, isn't it? But this report seems to say it will be wider and a bit longer than the Steregushchiy class, and with a displacement over 1000t heavier. It will also have 30% more range.
                                          Obviously we are not sure if this is, as you say, disinformation, or perhaps simply incorrect, but if we for a minute assume it is not, the propulsion choice will be very, uhh... interesting.
                                          Steregushchiy already uses 4 Kolomna diesels for a 27 knot speed, so I can't think of anything else, or a different arrangement, unless I'm missing something?

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