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  • Showtime 100
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    PLA Mysterious DF-41(ICBM) unveil????

    The legendary DF-41(ICBM)???


    Russian Topol


    Russian SS-19


    Russian SS-20


    China DF-31A???
    Last edited by Showtime 100; 19th February 2005, 19:55.
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  • Hyperwarp
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    #2
    I think google said that was a Belarussian TEL...
    Important Hyper Note: I am NOT an Aeronautical Engineer NOR an Aerospace Expert, etc, etc nor do I claim to be one.
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    Hyper McStupid

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    • Showtime 100
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      #3
      Originally posted by Hyperwarp
      I think google said that was a Belarussian TEL...
      China obtain the TEL from Belarus in 1997 but it was a SS-20 chasis which is quite different from what we see of the DF-41.

      http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a1002727.htm
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      • legolas
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        #4
        i except the DF-41 to be miles away from any Russian ICBM"s, please dont compare it with SS-19 and topol-m's

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        • Showtime 100
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          #5
          Originally posted by legolas
          i except the DF-41 to be miles away from any Russian ICBM"s, please dont compare it with SS-19 and topol-m's
          Did I read wrongly? What makes u think we r comparing DF-41 to Topol-M?
          Because nobody see a DF-41 or DF-31A before that's why i post all Russian ICBM TEL to show the photo I indicate as DF-41 is not some Topol-M or what SS-??? If u want to talk abt how good Topol-M,pls start another thread,don't dirty mine!
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          • heeroyui
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            #6
            Hello

            the correct identification is:





            ^ A-925 missile, 51T6 Otan ABM-4 Gorgon in vehicle carrying MAZ-547A



            ^ Topol Missile



            ^ Topol-M Missile



            ^ RT-21M Otan SS-20 SABER Missile

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            • Hyperwarp
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              #7
              Ahhh.....found it....

              A similar thread we had sometime back

              wow!!The first DF-41 ICMB photo in public by "iamdongdong"

              http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=23590

              .....google and hui tong said its not a PLA ICBM......
              Important Hyper Note: I am NOT an Aeronautical Engineer NOR an Aerospace Expert, etc, etc nor do I claim to be one.
              Regards,
              Hyper McStupid

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              • Showtime 100
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                #8
                But in the end the mystery never solved! But there is comfirm report China bought a MAZ TEL chasis from Belarus.Definitely that mysterious TEL we saw is not MAZ claim by previous post! It is reported China will base on the import TEL from Belarus and RE and make one suit for them!
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                • heeroyui
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                  #9
                  Hello



                  Other photo, the is A-925 missile, complex A-135, derivative the A-35 Galosh Otan ABM-1.

                  DF-41 ICMB not the correct identification.

                  other source: http://pro-pko.narod.ru/a135/maz547a.htm

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                  • sealordlawrence
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                    #10
                    So is this an ICBM not adaopted by the soviets or is it ABM system?

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                    • heeroyui
                      Member

                      #11
                      Hello

                      This an ABM system

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                      • sealordlawrence
                        Senior Member

                        #12
                        I assume that it is an improved version of the original, was it ever deployed operationally and how effective is it said to be. I have been told that the original golash system could intercept polaris but that its effect was limited by cost and number. What other systems are associated with it?

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                        • heeroyui
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                          #13
                          Hello

                          A-135 complex

                          A-135 complex In designed in the year of 1978 like replacement of the A-35 system, this system began to be constructed, and after the accomplishment of the respective tests the system was operative in 1989, and the 17 of February of 1995 the system of anti-missile protection of the region of Moscow was put in guard battle by decree of the president of Russia, the system this based on two new intercepting missiles and new radars of phase adjustment, the missiles are installed in underground silos diminishing their vulnerability before the attacks, five new sites were constructed, and two sites of the A-35 system were turned to the new system.

                          The system this made up of:

                          32 to 36 exoatmospheric long-range missiles A-925 51T6.
                          64 to 68 endoatmospheric missiles 53T6.
                          System of radar DON-2N.
                          Radar stations Dunay-.
                          Command station post and control 5K80.

                          intercepting missiles:

                          Code of NATO: ABM-3 Gazelle, SH-08.
                          Designation of the intercepting missile: 53T6.
                          Designed by: Toporkov OKB (OKB-134, now Vympel NPO)
                          Manufactured by: Kisunko SKB (SKB-30, now NIIRP).
                          Beginning of the production: 1967.
                          Beginning of unfolding: 1984.
                          Type: Endoatmospheric interceptor.
                          Guide: Comando Radar.
                          Length, m: 10,
                          Diameter, m: 1.3.
                          Propulsion: Solid propellant rocket engine of two states.
                          Range: 80 km.
                          Head military: Nuclear of 10 Kt.
                          Vehicle of transport: MAZ-543M

                          Code of NATO: ABM-4 Gorgon, SH-11.
                          Designation of the intercepting missile: A-925, 51T6.
                          Designed by: Grushin OKB (OKB-2, now MKB Fakel).
                          Manufactured by: Kisunko SKB (SKB-30, now NIIRP).
                          Beginning of the production: 1980.
                          Beginning of unfolding: 1990.
                          Type: Exoatmospheric interceptor.
                          Guide: Comando Radar.
                          Length, m: 19.8 (according to other sources 22 m.s).
                          Diameter, m: 1.8.
                          Propulsion: Solid propellant rocket engine of three states.
                          Range: 350 km (400 km according to another source).
                          Head military: Nuclear of 1 megaton (550 Kt according to another source).
                          Vehicle of transport: MAZ-547A

                          A-135 complex

                          radar DON-2N



                          Elbrus-2 computer in Command station post and control 5K80.



                          Dunay-3U



                          silo the 53T6 missile Otan ABM-3 Gazelle



                          silo the A-925, 51T6 Otan ABM-4 Gorgon



                          ABM-3 Gazelle in MAZ-543M



                          ABM-4 Gorgon in MAZ-547A




                          photo of a A-350 missile Otan ABM-1 Galosh to compare with the ABM-4 missile



                          A-350 launching system (exposed unlike the silos of the A-135 complex)



                          excuses by my ingles, my language is Spanish!!!!
                          Last edited by heeroyui; 22nd February 2005, 07:34.

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                          • sealordlawrence
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                            #14
                            I assume that this system was aimed at early generation Tridents. It is interesting to see that Russia has had and has been working on ABM systems for a while where as the US seems to have only recently enetered into the arena, and not without controversy. Thanks for the info its great.

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                            • Hyperwarp
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                              #15
                              Cool stuff heeroyui...
                              Important Hyper Note: I am NOT an Aeronautical Engineer NOR an Aerospace Expert, etc, etc nor do I claim to be one.
                              Regards,
                              Hyper McStupid

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                              • ender
                                Junior Member

                                #16
                                Originally posted by sealordlawrence
                                I assume that this system was aimed at early generation Tridents. It is interesting to see that Russia has had and has been working on ABM systems for a while where as the US seems to have only recently enetered into the arena, and not without controversy. Thanks for the info its great.
                                Hi
                                Both the US and the URSS was permitted to develop an ABM system under the 1972 ABM teatry. The US system entered service but was soon discarded.

                                regards
                                Carmine

                                http://www.paineless.id.au/missiles/

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