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  • Sigma4
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    • May 2016
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    http://nextbigfuture.com/2016/05/aus...oeing-bae.html

    Boeing, BAE SYSTEMS and DLR successfully test Mach 7.5 missile

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    • Tango III
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      ATAS to become a standard air-to-air component for Apache AH-64E

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      • max steel
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        • Jan 2016
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        Originally posted by Sigma4 View Post
        The advantage is size, weight and cost and therefore quantity. Such a weapon might stop one, but not 8.
        CIWS is designed for multiple attackers. Doubt they would use up a magazine of 1600 rounds on one inbound.

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        • Jonesy
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          • Jan 2000
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          Originally posted by max steel View Post
          CIWS is designed for multiple attackers. Doubt they would use up a magazine of 1600 rounds on one inbound.
          Not really Max.

          Some CIWS are designed to be able to cope with a streaming attack.....thats not the same as 'multiple attackers' though. A streaming attack is a rapid reoccurrence of a single threat inbound!. Light calibre guns CIWS for all the sexy multiple barrels, muzzle flashes and streams of bullets are only ever firing on one, single, target on one, single, threat axis at any one given point in an engagement. This is why, in part, some navies go to town with mutiple mounts and, where offmount directors are employed, multiple FCR's.

          Larger calibre CIWS may be able to schedule a burst pattern to encompass multiple simultaneous inbounds....but the single threat bearing, or narrow variation thereof, still applies.

          The fire and forget 'local-area' SAM is a new concept in really dealing with the kind of saturation threat posed, but, in an attrition fight its going to be lots easier for the F-35B to go back and get another 8 missiles than it would be for a frigate to go back and reload with a new complement of VL Mica or Ceptors!. SPEAR3 will be a hell of a lot harder to programme a good counter to than any kind of same strike formation-sized attack with BrahMos, C80x, AM39 or Harpoon!

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          • Sigma4
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            • May 2016
            • 330

            Originally posted by max steel View Post
            CIWS is designed for multiple attackers. Doubt they would use up a magazine of 1600 rounds on one inbound.
            Remains to be seen. It's easier to shoot down one AARGM than four Spears, especially if they're coming from four separate directions at once. It's also easier to target and hit an AARGM than a Spear simply due to size. Spears are also better for carriage, especially as regards stealth bay compliance. Then you have range of acquisition for optical systems - very small, low heat missile. It's not a silver bullet, there's no such thing, but it's an improvement to existing capabilities.
            Last edited by Sigma4; 21st May 2016, 11:22.

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            • JSR
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              • Aug 2011
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              Originally posted by Jonesy View Post
              The fire and forget 'local-area' SAM is a new concept in really dealing with the kind of saturation threat posed, but, in an attrition fight its going to be lots easier for the F-35B to go back and get another 8 missiles than it would be for a frigate to go back and reload with a new complement of VL Mica or Ceptors!.
              Its good after all those years you finally realized that airpower can be more quickly reloaded for next strike than ships. plus factories can make more fighters than shipyards can make more ships. plus ships are slower to move from one area to another. plus the air refueling tankers and large external fuel tanks gives tremendous flexibility to fighter loitering time and bases.

              SPEAR3 will be a hell of a lot harder to programme a good counter to than any kind of same strike formation-sized attack with BrahMos, C80x, AM39 or Harpoon!
              current brahmos is yesterday weopon. current weopon is klibir that can be fired at long ranges from small ships and diesel electric subs and future is brahmos NG. missiles like R-37M and Project 810Mm are developed to shot down MPAs/Anti sub helicopters at hundreds of kms thus increasing the efficiency of SSKs.

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              • Tango III
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                Range of Russian S-400V4 system with new missile reaches 400 km

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                • Tango III
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                  Did India lied about ballistic missile intercept test?

                  Interceptor missile mission a ‘failure’

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                  • Tango III
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                    The US Navy's Battleplan to Crush Enemy Missiles, Drones and Aircraft

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                    • Tango III
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                      Meteor - A Boost for Sweden

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                      • Tango III
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                        Israeli Spyder system emerges as frontrunner for Indian Army's air defence needs

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                        • Tango III
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                          Pentagon Report And Chinese Nuclear Forces

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                            Winning The Salvo Competition: Rebalancing America’s Air And Missile Defenses

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                              Raytheon gets SM-6 contract modification

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                                Georgia to Receive Air Defense Systems from France In 2017

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                                  Israeli Navy Successfully Tests Shipborne Missile Interceptor System

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                                    Test Launch of India's Supersonic BrahMos Missile a Success


                                    Russia, India Determine 14 Possible Purchasers of BrahMos Cruise Missiles

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                                    • JSR
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                                      missile technology is improving faster.

                                      http://www.satnews.com/story.php?number=1006171252
                                      Russia Successfully Tests An Anti-Satellite Missile... For The Second Time

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                                      • Tango III
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                                        Lithuania eyes buying air defence system from Norway-report

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                                          South will develop its own type of SLBM: source

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