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  • franc
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    • Dec 2005
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    What's nickname of those Chinese combat aircraft?

    FC-1
    SH-5
    JH-7
    J-10
    J-12
    Je pense, donc je suis.
  • crobato
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    • Jan 2000
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    #2
    Officially, the JF-17 is Xiaolong (small dragon), JH-7A is Feibao (flying leopard) and the J-10 is Qianglong (vigorous dragon) I think. The names don't really stick.

    But if you like to know what is the Chinese internet codeword for the J-10, it is actually "stick".
    pb::

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      #3
      Originally posted by crobato View Post
      Officially, the JF-17 is Xiaolong (small dragon), JH-7A is Feibao (flying leopard) and the J-10 is Qianglong (vigorous dragon) I think. The names don't really stick.

      But if you like to know what is the Chinese internet codeword for the J-10, it is actually "stick".

      What no Jugs or Hogs!

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      • franc
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        • Dec 2005
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        #4
        The Q-5 was name by NATO as Fantan, J-8II got Finback, what'r those I posted?
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        • franc
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          • Dec 2005
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          #5
          Originally posted by crobato View Post
          Officially, the JF-17 is Xiaolong (small dragon), JH-7A is Feibao (flying leopard) and the J-10 is Qianglong (vigorous dragon) I think. The names don't really stick.

          But if you like to know what is the Chinese internet codeword for the J-10, it is actually "stick".

          Interesting, what does small dragon look like?
          Je pense, donc je suis.

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          • TEEJ
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            • Oct 2005
            • 2352

            #6
            Originally posted by franc View Post
            The Q-5 was name by NATO as Fantan, J-8II got Finback, what'r those I posted?
            The names are not given by NATO.

            The organisation that generates the codenames is ASIC, formerly ASCC. ASIC is made up of US, UK, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. NATO simply uses the codenames generated.

            http://www.airstandards.com/ascc/

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            • franc
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              • Dec 2005
              • 625

              #7
              So what's the name they give to the J-10, JH-7 etc...?
              Je pense, donc je suis.

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              • Arthur
                a plane pour moi
                • Jan 2000
                • 9056

                #8
                JH-7 is FLOUNDER. The FC-1 isn't in service yet so isn't yet named (perhaps a development codename like CHENG-B in parralel to the experimental ASCC codenames like TAG-D or RAM-P used for Soviet aircraft), the J-10 only for a short while so hasn't been named yet, the J-12 probably doesn't even exist so hasn't got a name either.

                Been wondering about the SH-5 myself, but then again it's awfully silent in the M-department of ASCC/ASIC codenames. Last one issued is the Be-40 MERMAID i think.
                Regards,

                Arthur
                The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.
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                • Trident
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                  • May 2004
                  • 3963

                  #9
                  SOC says the Yak-130 is now officially the MITTEN.
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                  • TEEJ
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 2352

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Trident View Post
                    SOC says the Yak-130 is now officially the MITTEN.
                    Correct. The MiG-AT was designated MISER.

                    Arthur, the SH-5, like the L-39 never received one. Last 'M' was MAINRING (KJ-2000)
                    Last edited by TEEJ; 26th June 2007, 19:39.

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                    • MadRat
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                      • Aug 2006
                      • 5033

                      #11
                      So in summary of all the chinese fighter programs we officially have...

                      Mikoyan J-2 Fagot
                      Shenyang J-4 Fagot
                      Mikoyan J-5 Fresco
                      Shenyang J-5A Fresco
                      Shenyang J-6 Farmer
                      Nanchang Q-5/A-5 Fantan
                      Shenyang/Chengdu J-7 Fishbed
                      Shenyang J-8 Finback
                      Chengdu J-9/FC-1/JF-17 Fishpaste
                      Shenyang J-11 Flanker
                      Xian JH-7/JH-7A/FBC-1 Flounder

                      Unofficially we have...

                      Chengdu F-7M Airguard
                      Xian JH-7/JH-7A/FBC-1 Feibao ("flying leopard")
                      Chengdu J-9/FC-1 Xiaolong ("fierce dragon")
                      Chengdu J-10 Qianglong ("vigorous dragon"/"brave dragon")
                      Chengdu F-10 Vanguard (export version of J-10 to Pakistan)
                      Shenyang J-12 XXJ or J-XX
                      Chengdu JF-17 Thunder (export version of FC-1 to Pakistan)

                      Taiwanese...

                      AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kuo
                      ... A/B An Hsiang ("safe flight")
                      ... C/D Hsiung Ying ("brave hawk")

                      Updated
                      Last edited by MadRat; 28th June 2007, 01:18.
                      Go Huskers!

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                      • Deino
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Jan 2000
                        • 4184

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MadRat View Post
                        So in summary of all the chinese fighter programs we officially have...

                        Shenyang J-4 Fagot
                        Shenyang J-5 Fresco
                        Shenyang J-6 Farmer
                        Nanchang Q-5/A-5 Fantan
                        Shenyang/Chengdu J-7 Fishbed
                        Shenyang J-8 Finback
                        Chengdu J-9/FC-1 Fishpaste
                        Shenyang J-11 Flanker
                        Xian JH-7/JH-7A/FBC-1 Flounder

                        Unofficially we have...

                        Xian JH-7A Feibao (flying leopard)
                        Chengdu JF-17 Xiaolong (small dragon)
                        Chengdu J-10 Qianglong (vigorous dragon)
                        Shenyang J-12 XXJ

                        First of all there was never a J-4 !!! ... and where do You get this "Chengdu J-9/FC-1 Fishpaste" as the Chengdu J-9 and the FC-1 are two completely different aircraft ... !
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                        He was my North, my South, my East and West,
                        My working week and my Sunday rest,
                        My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;
                        I thought that love would last forever; I was wrong.

                        The stars are not wanted now; put out every one:
                        Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun;
                        Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods:
                        For nothing now can ever come to any good.
                        -------------------------------------------------
                        W.H.Auden (1945)

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                        • skyisthelimit
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                          • Jun 2007
                          • 15

                          #13
                          Actually, "Xiao Long" in Chinese is not small dragon. It is Xiao with the first tone, which is a mythic bird from ancient Chinese book. It can means fierce. So the translation should be Fierce Dragon for FC-1
                          J-10 is Called "Meng Long" which is Vigorous Dragon or Brave Dragon

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                          • coldfire2005
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                            • Dec 2005
                            • 727

                            #14
                            as you guys are talking about nato code for all aircrats can any one tell me if lca-tejas of india as got any ??

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                            • TEEJ
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                              • Oct 2005
                              • 2352

                              #15
                              Originally posted by coldfire2005 View Post
                              as you guys are talking about nato code for all aircrats can any one tell me if lca-tejas of india as got any ??
                              No. The codenames only cover FSU and PRC. The one lone exception, off the top of my head, was the Czech L-29 which received the codename 'Maya'.

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                              • MadRat
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 5033

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Deino View Post
                                First of all there was never a J-4 !!! ... and where do You get this "Chengdu J-9/FC-1 Fishpaste" as the Chengdu J-9 and the FC-1 are two completely different aircraft ... !
                                Original J-9: source = http://www.china-defense.com/aviatio...lopment-2.html

                                The J-9 project ran in parallel with the J-8 project but used a completely new airframe. The design target maximum speed was Mach 2.4 at above 20,000 metres altitude. In order to achieve this target the J-9 was fitted with an 8,500kg thrust turbojet engine and the 601 Institute initially used a tailless delta design. Development at this point shifted to the newly built 611 Institute and the Chengdu Aircraft Factory. At the beginning of the 1970s, the 611 Institute proposed a new design using a canard ahead of the delta wing (not dissimilar to the Swedish Viggen), but because it required new materials and know-how plus engine performance problems it wasn't until 1975 before the design could be completed. The new J-9 design was quite advanced with air intakes on the fuselage sides featuring variable inlet geometry to alter the compression mixture. It used a 12,400 kg wet thrust turbofan engine and featured a Type 205 radar (search range about 70km) and four PL-4 radar-guided air-to-air missiles. The J-9 plan was discontinued in 1980. However, the effort was not totally wasted as the J-9 development enabled Chinese engineers to gain experience with the canard layout type, experience that would prove useful in the J-10 project.


                                The FC-1/JH-17 replaced the original J-9 program and has now taken its name.
                                Go Huskers!

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                                • Deino
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Jan 2000
                                  • 4184

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by MadRat View Post
                                  Original J-9: source = http://www.china-defense.com/aviatio...lopment-2.html

                                  The J-9 project ran in parallel with the J-8 project but used a completely new airframe. The design target maximum speed was Mach 2.4 at above 20,000 metres altitude. In order to achieve this target the J-9 was fitted with an 8,500kg thrust turbojet engine and the 601 Institute initially used a tailless delta design. Development at this point shifted to the newly built 611 Institute and the Chengdu Aircraft Factory. At the beginning of the 1970s, the 611 Institute proposed a new design using a canard ahead of the delta wing (not dissimilar to the Swedish Viggen), but because it required new materials and know-how plus engine performance problems it wasn't until 1975 before the design could be completed. The new J-9 design was quite advanced with air intakes on the fuselage sides featuring variable inlet geometry to alter the compression mixture. It used a 12,400 kg wet thrust turbofan engine and featured a Type 205 radar (search range about 70km) and four PL-4 radar-guided air-to-air missiles. The J-9 plan was discontinued in 1980. However, the effort was not totally wasted as the J-9 development enabled Chinese engineers to gain experience with the canard layout type, experience that would prove useful in the J-10 project.


                                  The FC-1/JH-17 replaced the original J-9 program and has now taken its name.
                                  YES, I know this project, but the J-9 was never called FC-1 - this is only a term used for the current FC-1 = JF-17 - ... the name "Fishpaste" is completely new; that's why I asked where do You have this information from, and the current FC-1 / JF-17 otherwise was never called the J-9, even if this is widely posted in the www. !!
                                  ...

                                  He was my North, my South, my East and West,
                                  My working week and my Sunday rest,
                                  My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;
                                  I thought that love would last forever; I was wrong.

                                  The stars are not wanted now; put out every one:
                                  Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun;
                                  Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods:
                                  For nothing now can ever come to any good.
                                  -------------------------------------------------
                                  W.H.Auden (1945)

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                                  • Don Chan
                                    Rank V Registered User
                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 3393

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by skyisthelimit View Post
                                    Actually, "Xiao Long" in Chinese is not small dragon. It is Xiao with the first tone
                                    [Mr Spock Mode ON]

                                    Xiao1 is pronounced Hiu in Chinese Cantonese dialect.
                                    Yahoo! Hong Kong translates it as "owl".
                                    Yahoo! Taiwan translates it as "owlet".

                                    Xiao1 (hiu) is commonly used in the noun xiao1 xiong2 (hiu hung), which Yahoo! Hong Kong translates as "an unscrupulous, brave, and capable person". Actually, a villain, the opposite of an hero (ying1 xiong2).

                                    [Mr Spock Mode OFF]
                                    Republic of Korea Air Force KF-16 missing photographs

                                    http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-databas...irforce/ROKAF/

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