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    #21
    Originally posted by Muns View Post
    Yes, it was a terrorist attack on a large scale and numerous debates have gone on since then whether it was necessary. Lets not forget it was a race towards who was going to develop the atom bomb first. The Germans had already shown their indiscriminate killing of civilians wherever they invaded including multiple and random V2 rocket bombing acts on london city.
    And lets not forget the Japanese atrocities on civilians over much of south east asia at the time.

    I personally believe that if the Germans or the Japanese developed the bomb first, they would have used it on civilians that they were fighting against.
    Yep, I think the same, too.. I am not here to discuss the ever repeating history, I point out at this designation logic being absolutely twisted.

    In fact, the real distinction between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is very simple. Both types do absolutely the same, but the difference is that their activity either fits the interests of the US (----> freedom fighters) or plays against them (----> terrorists)..

    And according to that criteria their picture is being spread over the media..
    Last edited by flex297; 6th December 2006, 04:03.

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      #22
      I really cannot believe that people are actually comparing instances from WWII to justify idiots whose sole aim is to kill civilians.I am not talking about any definition or any specific criteria here but USAF bombing German cities(BTW..remember Germans bombed London?) and countries operating camps just to brainwash and arm people to civilian killing mode are not the same thing.
      PEOPLE.FIRST.MISSION.ALWAYS.
      Have a good one..

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        #23
        Originally posted by rayrubik View Post
        I really cannot believe that people are actually comparing instances from WWII to justify idiots whose sole aim is to kill civilians.I am not talking about any definition or any specific criteria here but USAF bombing German cities(BTW..remember Germans bombed London?) and countries operating camps just to brainwash and arm people to civilian killing mode are not the same thing.
        Remember, there is no single terrorist or freedom fighter or rebel group that is fighting without any deeper goal. Agreed, some individuals might want do all the mess 'just for fun', but the same 'violence junkies' you can find in any regular army, too.

        BTW, I am sure that most terrorist groups would love to attack military assetts instead, but these are usualy very well guarded. What do you think a group of Hezbollah members would prefer - to attack a Jewish restaurant or to blow 5-6 IDF/AF F-16Is on the ground? The latter is certainly much more tempting, but hardly realistic.

        I repeat, there are no specific criteria to distinguish between 'appropriate' or 'unapropriate' violence, as there are no borders between right and wrong.

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          #24
          $144M Begins F-16 Deliveries to Pakistan

          Lockheed Martin Corp. in Fort Worth, TX received a $144 million firm-fixed-price and time and materials contract for 12 operational single place F-16C Block 52 aircraft and 6 operational two place F-16D Block 52+ aircraft. Aircraft purchases will be accomplished under the firm-fixed price portion of the contract, and $78.4 million has been obligated at this time. Work will be complete by November 2010. The Headquarters Aeronautical Systems Center at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, OH issued the contract (FA8615-07-C-6031).

          Those figures seem a touch under-valued - DID will pursue the matter with Lockheed and see if they can shine any light on the discrepancy. Note that this order is part of a larger $5.1 billion improvement and expansion of Pakistan's F-16 force, which DID has covered in depth.

          http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/

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            #25
            Originally posted by flex297 View Post
            Remember, there is no single terrorist or freedom fighter or rebel group that is fighting without any deeper goal. Agreed, some individuals might want do all the mess 'just for fun', but the same 'violence junkies' you can find in any regular army, too.

            BTW, I am sure that most terrorist groups would love to attack military assetts instead, but these are usualy very well guarded. What do you think a group of Hezbollah members would prefer - to attack a Jewish restaurant or to blow 5-6 IDF/AF F-16Is on the ground? The latter is certainly much more tempting, but hardly realistic.

            I repeat, there are no specific criteria to distinguish between 'appropriate' or 'unapropriate' violence, as there are no borders between right and wrong.

            And who decides whether that "goal" is right or wrong?I certainly dont advocate blowing up of restaurants,trains or attacking the parliament for that matter.And i dont think thats comparable to what happened in WWII either.Actually i think that WWars were one time events and nothing is comparable to those.

            Anyways its a long debate.Just dont think that this is the right place to do it.

            Regards.
            PEOPLE.FIRST.MISSION.ALWAYS.
            Have a good one..

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              #26
              Possible Foreign Military Sale to Pakistan

              Pakistan E-2C Hawkeye 2000 Airborne Early Warning Suite for P-3s

              (Source: US Defense Security Cooperation Agency; dated Dec. 7, released Dec. 8, 2006)

              WASHINGTON --- The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Pakistan for refurbishment and modification of three excess P-3 aircraft with the E-2C HAWKEYE 2000 Airborne Early Warning (AEW) Suite, as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $855million.


              The US plans to sell Pakistan three surplus P-3 Orions fitted with the Hawkeye 2000s airborne early warning sensors, like the one above. (Lockheed Martin photo)

              The Government of Pakistan has requested a possible sale for refurbishment and modification of three excess P-3 aircraft with the E-2C HAWKEYE 2000 Airborne Early Warning (AEW) Suite, spare and repairs parts, simulators, support equipment, personnel training and training equipment, publications and technical data, system software development and installation, ground/flight testing of new systems and system modifications, U.S. Government and contractor engineering and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $855 million.

              This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that has been and continues to be an important force for economic progress in South Asia and a partner in the global war on terrorism. The command-and-control capabilities of these aircraft will improve Pakistans ability to restrict the littoral movement of terrorists along Pakistans southern border and ensure Pakistans overall ability to maintain integrity of its borders.

              Pakistan intends to use the proposed equipment to develop an effective air defense network for its naval forces and provide an AEW surveillance and enhanced command, control, and communications capability. The addition of the AEW suites will provide Pakistan with search surveillance, and control capability in support of maritime interdiction operations. These aircraft will also increase Pakistans ability to support the U.S. Operation Enduring Freedom operations, and provide anti-ship and anti-submarine warfare capabilities; and a control capability over land against transnational terrorists and narcotics smugglers. The modernization will enhance the capabilities of the Pakistani Navy and support its regional influence and meet its legitimate self-defense needs. Pakistan will have no difficulty absorbing the AEW platform into its armed forces.

              The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not affect the basic military balance in the region.

              The prime contractor will be Northrop Grumman Corporation, St. Augustine, Florida and Lockheed-Martin, Greenville, South Carolina. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.

              Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of any U.S. Government and contractor representatives to Pakistan.

              There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

              This notice of a potential sale is required by law; it does not mean that the sale has been concluded.

              -ends-

              Pakistan TOW-2A Anti-Armor Guided Missiles

              (Source: US Defense Security Cooperation Agency; dated Dec. 7, released Dec. 8, 2006)

              WASHINGTON --- The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Pakistan of TOW 2A Missiles as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $185 million.

              The Government of Pakistan has requested a possible sale of 2,769 Radio Frequency (RF) TOW 2A Missiles, 7 RF TOW 2A Fly-to-buy Missiles, 415 RF Bunker Buster Missiles, 7 RF Fly-to-buy Bunker Buster Missiles, upgrade of 121 TOW Basic/TOW-I launchers to fire TOW II configuration for wire-guided and wireless missiles, TOW Data Acquisition Systems, gunner aiming sight, testers, cameras, spare and repair parts, technical support, support equipment, personnel training and training equipment, technical data and publications, U.S. Government and contractor engineering and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $185 million.

              This proposed sale will contribute to furthering the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping a friendly country provide for its own legitimate self-defense needs and to enable Pakistan to support U.S. operations against terrorist activity along its porous borders. In addition, these missiles have most recently been employed in several global war on terrorism operations in the tribal areas of Pakistan and have allowed, when coupled with Cobra attack helicopters, the Government of Pakistan to employ new tactics, techniques and procedures that have proven highly effective against terrorists.

              Pakistan will augment its land forces with these TOW-2A anti-armor guided missiles. Pakistan will use these missiles to increase its military defensive posture and will have no difficulty absorbing these additional missiles into its armed forces. Pakistans existing inventory of TOW missiles will soon begin to be affected by its specified shelf life. While TOW missiles can be employed beyond their shelf life, system reliability and safety are eroded. Pakistan continues to expend TOW missiles in both training exercises and combat operations.

              The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not affect the basic military balance in the region.

              The prime contractor will be Raytheon Company in Tucson, Arizona. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.

              Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of any U.S. Government and contractor representatives to Pakistan.

              There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

              This notice of a potential sale is required by law; it does not mean that the sale has been concluded.

              -ends-
              http://www.defense-aerospace.com
              Superior tactics can always defeat superior numbers.

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                #27
                Pakistan E-2C Hawkeye 2000 Airborne Early Warning Suite for P-3s

                WASHINGTON --- The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Pakistan for refurbishment and modification of three excess P-3 aircraft with the E-2C HAWKEYE 2000 Airborne Early Warning (AEW) Suite, as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $855million.

                The Government of Pakistan has requested a possible sale for refurbishment and modification of three excess P-3 aircraft with the E-2C HAWKEYE 2000 Airborne Early Warning (AEW) Suite, spare and repairs parts, simulators, support equipment, personnel training and training equipment, publications and technical data, system software development and installation, ground/flight testing of new systems and system modifications, U.S. Government and contractor engineering and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $855 million.

                This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that has been and continues to be an important force for economic progress in South Asia and a partner in the global war on terrorism. The command-and-control capabilities of these aircraft will improve Pakistans ability to restrict the littoral movement of terrorists along Pakistans southern border and ensure Pakistans overall ability to maintain integrity of its borders.

                Pakistan intends to use the proposed equipment to develop an effective air defense network for its naval forces and provide an AEW surveillance and enhanced command, control, and communications capability. The addition of the AEW suites will provide Pakistan with search surveillance, and control capability in support of maritime interdiction operations. These aircraft will also increase Pakistans ability to support the U.S. Operation Enduring Freedom operations, and provide anti-ship and anti-submarine warfare capabilities; and a control capability over land against transnational terrorists and narcotics smugglers. The modernization will enhance the capabilities of the Pakistani Navy and support its regional influence and meet its legitimate self-defense needs. Pakistan will have no difficulty absorbing the AEW platform into its armed forces.

                The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not affect the basic military balance in the region.

                The prime contractor will be Northrop Grumman Corporation, St. Augustine, Florida and Lockheed-Martin, Greenville, South Carolina. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.

                Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of any U.S. Government and contractor representatives to Pakistan.

                There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

                This notice of a potential sale is required by law; it does not mean that the sale has been concluded.


                http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi...&modele=jdc_34

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                  #28
                  Pakistan: Air force fighter jet crashes in training flight, no injuries

                  KARACHI, Pakistan: A Pakistan air force jet crashed Wednesday during a routine training flight, but the pilot ejected safely and no one was injured on the ground, an official said.

                  The French-made Mirage aircraft crashed on the western outskirts of the port city of Karachi because of a technical fault, said Sqn. Ldr. Mohammed Qasim, a spokesman for the Pakistan air force, known as PAF. He did not give any details on the nature of the fault.

                  PAF officials have ordered an inquiry into the crash, he said. The Mirage jet had taken off from a military airport in Karachi.

                  http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/...raft_Crash.php

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                    #29
                    PAFs 11th Sqd F-16's air combat record

                    Anyone have any information on these air combat events?

                    "April 1987: According to unconfirmed reports, PAFs 11th Sqd F-16s have shot down four Mi-8 helicopters in the Khost area."
                    Thanks,

                    Buddha

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                      #30
                      Bird causes PAF Mirage fighter jet crash, investigation reveals

                      KARACHI: The crash of a Mirage fighter jet of Pakistan Air force was caused by a bird, which ingested into the aircraft engine, initial investigation of the crash revealed.

                      A PAF Mirage Fighter jet was crashed on Wednesday here at Karachi. Following the crash, an inquiry was ordered into the crash to ascertain the causes of the accident.

                      A spokesman of PAF said here that initial investigation suggested that a large bird ingested into the aircraft engine that caused the loss of engine power and flight of the aircraft could not be sustained.

                      Due to the failure of the engine the pilot ejected in an inhabitant land, he concluded.

                      http://paktribune.com/news/index.shtml?163800

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                        #31
                        http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...-2-2007_pg7_26

                        PAF Mirage crashes, pilot safe

                        LAHORE: A Pakistan Air Force (PAF) Mirage fighter jet crashed at Machiwal near Jhang on Wednesday night, Geo television quoted PAF spokesman as saying. The pilot ejected safely. The plane took off from Shorkot air base for a routine operational flight, the spokesman told the channel. According to the channel PAF has launched an enquiry into the accident. daily times monitor

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                          #32
                          U.S. gives eight Cobra helicopters to Pakistan

                          Feb 2, 2007 ISLAMABAD (Reuters) -The United States handed over eight Cobra attack helicopters on Friday to Pakistan, which is under growing pressure to stop Taliban guerrillas crossing into Afghanistan to fight NATO forces.

                          Pakistani army helicopters, including Cobras, struck a suspected Taliban and al Qaeda hideout in the South Waziristan tribal region last month, killing up to 20 militants, according to intelligence sources.

                          Around 80 men and boys were killed in October by a similar strike on a militant-linked madrasa, or Islamic school, in another tribal agency on the border.

                          The eight AH1-F Cobras, equipped for night flying, are part of a $50-million foreign military sales program that will provide 20 refurbished helicopters to the Pakistani army.

                          "These helicopters are important weapons in our common fight against terrorism," U.S. Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker said at the handing-over ceremony in the garrison town of Rawalpindi.

                          Pakistan had already acquired 19 Cobras from the United States, a U.S. embassy statement said.

                          Crocker said the Cobras and the sale of F-16 warplanes to Islamabad agreed late last year "demonstrated the long-term commitment of the United States to all aspects of our strategic partnership with Pakistan."

                          In June 2004, the United States declared Pakistan to be a major non-NATO ally, making it easier to supply arms.

                          Relations between the United States and Pakistan have once again come under scrutiny, because of comments by U.S. and Afghan officials that the Taliban has bases in Pakistan.

                          A U.S. bill which was passed in the House of Representatives and is due to go to the Senate has proposed linking military aid to Pakistan to its efforts to tackle Taliban.

                          The U.S. embassy said this week the Bush administration was opposed to provisions in the bill on linking military aid.

                          Pakistan concedes there are Taliban fighters on its soil, but insists the insurgency is based in Afghanistan.

                          http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2844148

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                            #33
                            Posted by Johann on BR

                            I had wanted to post an updated list of major US arms sales to Pakistan since 2001, and was wondering where to put it.
                            PA
                            -26 x Bell 412EP utility helicopters [$230m US financed lease. Deliveries JUN 2004-05. Textron.]
                            -3330 x Falcon II infantry & vehicle tactical radio systems [$68m US financed sale, FEB 2005. Harris]
                            - spare parts for Mi-17 medium lift helicopters [$5.2m, General Dynamics, SEP 2006]
                            - 20 x AH-1F Cobra attack helicopters [excess defence articles, refurbished by LSI. 8 x delivered JAN 2007]

                            INTERIOR MINISTRY
                            - 10 x Bell Huey II utility helicopters [grant aid from State Dept. for Afghan border surveillance]

                            PAF
                            - 12 x F-16C Block 52 + 6 x F-16D Block 52 fighter aircraft [$144m, DEC 2006, Lockheed-Martin]
                            - 24 x F-16A + 10 x F-16B Block 15 MLU kits [$161.3m , DEC 2006, Lockheed-Martin]
                            - 54 x AN/APG-68 (V) 9 Radar Systems [$49m, NOV 2006, Northtrop-Grumman ]
                            - 6 x C-130E transport aircraft [$64m US financed sale, SEP 2004. Lockheed-Martin.]
                            - 6 x AN/TPS-77 mobile air surveillance radars [$89m US financed sale, OCT 2005. Lockheed-Martin]
                            - 500 x AIM-120C-5 air-to-air missiles [$269.6m, Raytheon, NOV 2006]
                            - upgrades for 310 AIM-9M air-to-air missiles to AIM-9M-8/9s [$5.8m US financed sale, DEC 2006. Raytheon]
                            - 300 x AIM-9M Sidewinder within-visual-range air-to-air missiles [$29.4m US financed sale, OCT 2005. Raytheon]
                            - 2 x F-16A Falcon fighter aircraft [Excess Defense Articles grant delivered JAN 2006]
                            -19 x T-37B intermediate jet trainers [Excess Defense Articles grant, 2003?]


                            PN
                            - depot maintenance for 2 x P-3Cs in Pakistan [$11m, JAN 2005. Lockheed-Martin]
                            - 8 x P-3C maritime surveillance aircraft [Excess Defense Articles grant.]
                            depot maintenance for 7 x gifted P-3Cs [$20.9m US financed sale, MAR 2006. Lockheed-Martin]
                            - training program for P-3C air & ground crews [$30.3m US financed sale. NOV 2005. LSI/DynCorp]
                            - addition to LM contract [$186.5m modification to existing LM contract]
                            -50 [40 air-launched + 10 surface launched] x Harpoon Tactical Block II anti-ship missiles [$61.7m US financed sale, NOV 2005. McDonnell-Douglas/Boeing]
                            - Harpoon Ship Command Launch Control Systems upgrades [$6.1m, Boeing, OCT 2006]
                            - 4 X Phalanx CIWS [$47.2m, Raytheon, SEP 2006]

                            All sourced from the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (www.dsca.mil) and http://www.pentagon.mil/Contracts/
                            - The notifications are basically are just Pakistani wishlists which the Americans have acknowledged.

                            That's less than half-way in the negotiations process.

                            What the Pakistanis end up getting is usually significantly less. For example notification to Congress involved 36 F-16s - they got 18; congressional notification spoke of up to 60 MLU kits - they got 24.


                            It is much more reliable to look at contracts and grants.
                            The following are Pakistani wishlists the USG have notified Congress of, but have not been turned in to contracts;

                            6 x L-88 Aerostat surveillance radars ($155m, Lockheed-Martin. Congressional notification in JUL 2002)

                            115 x M109A Paladin 155mm self-propelled howitzers ($56m, United Defense Sale. Congressional notification in DEC 2005).

                            14 x Falcon-Up/STAR upgrades + 14 x F100-PW-220E engine overhauls + de-modification of 26 x aircraft ($151m Congressional notification in JUN 2006)

                            240 x LAU-129/A Launchers; [all Air Weaponry $650m proposed sale. Congressional notification in JUN 2006]
                            500 x JDAM Guidance Kits: GBU-31/38 Guided Bomb Unit (GBU) kits;
                            1,600 x Enhanced-GBU-12/24 GBUs;
                            800 x MK-82 500lbs and MK-84 2,000lbs bombs;
                            700 x BLU-109 2,000lbs penetrating bombs w/ FMU-143 Fuze.

                            3,700 x Harris HF manpack and vehicle radios ($160m, NOV 2006)

                            3 x (refurbished) P-3 Orions w/ Hawkeye 2000 AEW suites ($855m, DEC 2006)
                            3,200 x TOW-II missiles ($185m, DEC 2006)
                            Last edited by Nick_76; 6th February 2007, 09:21.

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                              #34
                              6 x L-88 Aerostat surveillance radars ($155m, Lockheed-Martin. Congressional notification in JUL 2002)
                              Pakistan canceled the order for these back in 2003-4.

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                                #35
                                http://www.app.com.pk/en/index.php?o...=3429&Itemid=2

                                PAF fighter jet crashes near Jhang PDF Print E-mail
                                Written by pub
                                Wednesday, 07 February 2007

                                ISLAMABAD, Feb 7 (APP): A Mirage fighter aircraft of Pakistan Airforce on Wednesday crashed near Jhang, pilot ejected safely.
                                Pakistan Airforce informs with regret that a Mirage fighter aircraft of PAF crashed near Jhang while on a routine operation training mission, said a news release issued by the Directorate of Public Relations (Air) here.
                                The pilot of the aircraft ejected safely and there is no loss of life and property on ground. The apparent cause of the accident seems to be technical fault. Air Headquarters have ordered an enquiry to probe in to the accident, it added.
                                Last edited by broncho; 7th February 2007, 19:38.

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                                  #36
                                  Originally posted by kursed View Post
                                  Pakistan canceled the order for these back in 2003-4.
                                  Correct.

                                  Pakistans wishlist as cleared by the DSCA can be found here
                                  www.dsca.mil

                                  Whats actually cleared by the US keeping in line with their political issues and budgetary resources allocated to Pak,'Foreign Military Financing' to Pakistan (currently at $300m/year until 2009, can be found here

                                  http://www.pentagon.mil/Contracts/

                                  Hence, It is much more reliable to look at contracts and grants.


                                  There is also the possibility that a lot of the stuff even limited to 300 Million $ could be held back contingent to Pak support in Afghanistan.

                                  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020100140.html

                                  The Democrats for instance have raised this:

                                  The U.S. bill, known as H.R. 1, calls for an end to U.S. military assistance to Pakistan if it fails to stop the Taliban operating from its territory. The bill has already been endorsed by the House of Representatives and will be sent to the Senate for consideration.
                                  Last edited by Nick_76; 7th February 2007, 23:38.

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                                    #37
                                    DSCA list includes items that Pakistan and US have agreed upon, usually during the meetings held by Pakistan Defense Consultative Group (DCG) ... ie they would be sold/transfered if Pakistan decides to buy the item in question depending on their need/requirement/priority/budget etc etc.

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                                      #38
                                      Originally posted by MohammedAli View Post
                                      DSCA list includes items that Pakistan and US have agreed upon, usually during the meetings held by Pakistan Defense Consultative Group (DCG) ... ie they would be sold/transfered if Pakistan decides to buy the item in question depending on their need/requirement/priority/budget etc etc.
                                      Mohammad, DSCA is the first part of the process..once it gets cleared, then its up for financing. Every year Pak has a 300 Million $ cap, out of which it will have to pay a substantial chunk for financing the more expensive projects - eg the 54 MLU+New F-16s, rest is then split amongst the remaining "wishlist" in the DSCA. At this time, the US side can review & release items that they agree to or which Pak can afford, depending upon Paks priorities as well. All in all, the DSCA list is merely a shopping list, and nothing on it - bar what has already appeared on the contracts, is certain, for sure.

                                      The financial cap apart, the Democrat congress has now introduced HR1 based on the 9/11 commission hearings to withhold military aid to Pakistan to make the Pak Army/ ISI wholeheartedly support the US in Afghanistan.

                                      Based on the above, its possible that even the 300 Million$ pipeline from the US could close.

                                      The alternative, is of course, for Pak to buy its arms out of its own pocket, like India does.

                                      Lastly, if we see the list above, it serves as a useful reference of what Pakistan has actually purchased/ recieved, as compared to what items, tires it has kicked or merely expressed an interest in.

                                      As you can make out, a couple of big ticket purchases- PGMs or P3s with AEW alone, can use up the 300 Million tranche for years to come, unless the US agrees to very liberal financing terms (unlikely, as I said above) and hence use up the quota - all the other items, such as RF TOW2As , well Pak might have to pay for them out of its own pocket, and it might prove to be a bit too much for Pak.
                                      Last edited by Nick_76; 8th February 2007, 06:36.

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                                        #39
                                        PAF fighter jet crashes near Jhang

                                        Wednesday, 07 February 2007

                                        ISLAMABAD, Feb 7 (APP): A Mirage fighter aircraft of Pakistan Airforce on Wednesday crashed near Jhang, pilot ejected safely.
                                        Pakistan Airforce informs with regret that a Mirage fighter aircraft of PAF crashed near Jhang while on a routine operation training mission, said a news release issued by the Directorate of Public Relations (Air) here.
                                        The pilot of the aircraft ejected safely and there is no loss of life and property on ground. The apparent cause of the accident seems to be technical fault. Air Headquarters have ordered an enquiry to probe in to the accident, it added.

                                        http://www.app.com.pk/en/index.php?o...=3429&Itemid=2

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                                          #40
                                          Thats three in three weeks???? right?
                                          In Search Of Consciousness

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