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By: 16th January 2001 at 06:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-RE: Retrofit programmes for Asian Fighter Aircraft
You forgot the significant airframe work being done to both RAAF F-111s and RAAF Hornets. Should be able to squeeze an extra 3000 hours out of the F-111s and another 5000 out of the Hornets.
The new designation for the RAAF F/A-18A/B Hornets is F/A-18A+/B+. (just thought u might wanna know). Also, the F-111 work included integration of the AGM-142 Raptor stand off missile, the F-111's only stand off weapon, apart from the Harpoon.
MinMiester
By: 16th January 2001 at 07:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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By: 16th January 2001 at 07:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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The mirage upgrade is quite comprehensive ~ 4 squadrons worth!
looks like the PAF is depending upon them as the mainstay of the fleet in the years to come.The F16 notwithstanding....
The mig21 news ,iirc, is outdated.The delivery of upgrade kits has started.
By: 17th January 2001 at 03:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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I read *showhere* that these upgraded PAF Mirages III/5 have BVR installed which was capable of handling MICA but were equiped with South African Dartar BVR. It was also said that PAF's Mirages and F-16 are equipped to carry South African MUSPW(?).
By: 17th January 2001 at 04:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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Baxter,
Caesar a retd, PAF f16 pilot made a reference to the PAF acquiring (or trying to) super 530d's .He could throw more light on this.
By: 17th January 2001 at 08:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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Yes Baxter
It seems that the PAF mirages have strike capabilities similar to that of RAF Tornados, but how one pilot (even though Pakistanis on this forum praise them highly) could cope with flying ultra low level through heavily defended Indian airspace, using NVGs, using FLIR and atlas pod and firing the weapon is beyond me, surely this is a two man job!? Or perhaps One mirage will designate for 3 or 4 others!?
The IRST pod is an interesting addition, it means they can try and penetrate airspace with their Grifos off, hence hiding any radar emissions but using the IRST to try and spot enemy aircraft.
Anyway
Thai Air Force
F-5 upgrade
BAe type 956 HUDWAC
litton LN-39 INS
ALR-46 RWR
1553 databus
Tracor chaff/flare
Indonesia
F-5E upgrade
BAe HUDWAC
Litton LN-94 RLG INS
ALR -91 RWR
APQ-159 Radar upgraded
Vinten video recorder
maverick missile launchers
SO
By: 17th January 2001 at 09:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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Btw, the AUP performed on the F-111Cs was completed last year. It also included replacing the TF-30P3s with more powerful TF-30P9s.
MinMiester
By: 17th January 2001 at 11:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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>Btw, the AUP performed on the
>F-111Cs was completed last year.
> It also included replacing
>the TF-30P3s with more powerful
>TF-30P9s.
>
>MinMiester
Yes You are right, sorry, could not be bothered to write all the details, it was a long article!!!
In the same issue there is interesting articles on modern hand held SAMs and IRSTs.
SO
By: 17th January 2001 at 13:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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This is not me being jealous:-)...but seriously are the Mirage upgrades :
1. For ALL the 83 aircraft.
2. Do they really include all the goodies mentioned...that package would cost quite a bomb...........? any guesses on figures so we can compare them to published sources from Pakistan.
3. Whats the diffrence between a terrain following radar / terrain map generator....does the former have an autopilot capability and the latter does not???...pls help me out here.
IIRC the Mig 29s of the IAF were also getting some sort of an upgrade...what exactly no clue.....??any dope on that
By: 17th January 2001 at 18:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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Ahjor
I am taking everything from Asain Defence Journal, it states 83 aircraft being completed!
In my experiance your assumptions are correct a terrain following radar actually "flys" the plan at ultra low level, whit a map generator acts as a moving map image on a multi function display showing the pilots position in relation to a map position, being constantly updated.
Do not be jealous, these plans still have 30 year old airframe and engines, but very advanced avionics, they are a substitute for new strike aircraft which the PAF cannot afford!
SO
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By: SpecialOps - 15th January 2001 at 17:26
Due to a huge public demand Special Operations proudly presents
(drumroll).........Asian Aircraft Retrofits AAR or Air to Air Refuling if you are a pilot from a rich country! :)
No wonder I never get any work done, hope you guys will find me employment if I get the Old Spanish Archer (El Bow) from work! :)
I am getting most of this info from Asian Defence Journal which is sent to me free every month! hahaha!
Aussie upgrades
F-111 Avionics Upgrade Programme
Pave Tack and Raytheon AXQ-14 data link pods
additional electronics for Harpoon
Smiths Industries data transfer system (enables mission planning on a PC USING 256KBYTE disks)
two Honeywell MFDs
integrated communications navigation identification set
Terrai following radar
new AN/APQ-171 TFR
New Lockheed Martin Digital Flight Control system
F/A-18A/B Hornet upgrade phase 1a
new APG-73 radar
new EW suite
helmet mounted cueing system
ability to fire ASRAAM and AMRAAM
basically it is turing their A/Bs into C/D Hornets!
Indian Air Force
The Jags are back!
Jaguar upgrade
new el-op HUD
Sextant LCDs
moving map display
INS/GPS
terrain map generator
Elta airborne jammer
Indian RWR
Rafael ligening designation pod
Smiths and HAL are working on mission computer
MIG 21 upgrade their is already a thread on that which is doing a better job then I ever could! :)
but says here they will be able to fire the R-73 and R-77 missiles, but the project is still late and delayed!
MIG-27 upgrade
New HUD
LCD Displays
IFF
RWR
airborne self protection jammer
and refueling probe
Pakistan Air Force
Mirage 3/5 upgrades
83 aircraft have ALL been completed in France and Kamra
MAESTRO (modular avionics Enhancement system targeted for retrofit operations) same as Belguim Mirage 5 upgrade
Grifo radar
Uliss 92 INS/GPS
TERCOR terrain macthinga and automatic terrain following radar
combined with UTR-90 autopilot/low level terrain avoidance
MFDs
wide angle stroke and raster HUDs
HOTAS
Circe 2001 mission planning system
Night vision cockpit lighting and NVGs
thermal imaging and FLIR
laser range finder
ATLAS 2 pods
EW suite
airborne jammer
onboard oxygen geberation system
single point pressure refueling
Pakistani developed IRST sensor
These babies are very advanced strike birds!
Pakistan F-7
Grifo radar
french EW and avionics suite
ability to fire magic/sidewinder and PL-5
IFF
french nav attack
martin baker mark 10 seats
guys am knackered
will post Indonesian, Sinapore and Thai upgrades later!
SO