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  • researcher
    Junior Member
    • May 2006
    • 3

    YF-24 picture

    Has anyone got any information or genuine pictures on the YF-24 aircraft?

    Ive also head rumors that the designation relates to a bomber variant of the YF-23 Black Widow but another story has come out which I think is more believable. The YF-24 was an advanced variant of the F-15 Eagle designed as a contingency if the ATF program was cancelled after the end of the cold war.
  • djnik
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2004
    • 1106

    #2
    Isnt it a photoshoped picture?

    i have never heard of that airplane.it looks like someone used F-15 as a base for this fiction.

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    • Gauntlet
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Mar 2006
      • 180

      #3
      Looks way too much of an PS job.

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      • sferrin
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Apr 2005
        • 9981

        #4
        LOL yeah it's about as real as this one. Probably wouldn't be much of a challenge to find the original on the net somewhere. I mean it's the guy's FIRST post and he's wondering if this photoshop job is real? Probably did it himself and wants to see if anybody will bite.
        A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. - George Bernard Shaw

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        • fightingirish
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • May 2004
          • 1184

          #5
          "F-4Z Phinal Phantom!"


          Sln, fightingirish
          Avatar: Ho-Yeol Ryu, Flughafen (Airport), Hannover [HAJ / EDDV] 2005

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          • researcher
            Junior Member
            • May 2006
            • 3

            #6
            Thanks for the brick wall of skepticism. I found the picture browsing another forum http://www.alien-ufos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13419 but thought this a better place to start my research is here where people are generally more informed and level headed.

            The idea of putting forward swept wings on the F-15 seems quite obvious because after the X-29 that's what we expected the next fighter to have.

            The picture may be fake or it could just be so poor quality because its been zoomed up. I'd rather reserve judgment until more information on the YF-24 can be dug up.

            My research suggests that a manned YF-24 definitely exists and I think the F-15 story is at least as plausible, no more plausible, than the YF-23 bomber story.

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            • michelf
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Aug 2005
              • 402

              #7
              The X-29 revealed that the theoretical and potential advantages of FSW were simply not there in reality.....so the idea of having run two full scale airframes to test the theory and then built a canarded third version is implausible....

              The X-31 programme clearly showed far more promise and real advantages over the existing airframes.....

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              • sferrin
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Apr 2005
                • 9981

                #8
                Originally posted by researcher
                Thanks for the brick wall of skepticism.
                Not skepticism but common sense. What would be the point of a forward-swept wing F-15 mod? They've actually tested one with with a canard and thrust vectoring and nobody was really even interested in that relatively trivial mod (compared to going with a forward-swept wing).
                A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. - George Bernard Shaw

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                • Nicolas10
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2005
                  • 4523

                  #9
                  Dude, it's pretty obvious it's a PS job. Neat idea, but come on...

                  Nic

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                  • researcher
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2006
                    • 3

                    #10
                    Apparently the USAF was worried that the ATF program would get the ax because of its costs in the post-cold war world. So they got McDonald Douglas to run a contingency program designated the YF-24 which was to be the cheaper non-stealth alternative 4.5 generation fighter. But they kept it secret so that the existence of the cheaper option didnt act as a catalyst for the axing of the ATF.

                    The YF-24 was clearly a prototype or technology demonstration type so maybe the F-24 would have been slightly different.

                    Maybe thats why the X-32 or X-35 not designated YF-25, to hide the existence of the YF-24.

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                    • sferrin
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 9981

                      #11
                      Originally posted by researcher
                      Apparently the USAF was worried that the ATF program would get the ax because of its costs in the post-cold war world. So they got McDonald Douglas to run a contingency program designated the YF-24 which was to be the cheaper non-stealth alternative 4.5 generation fighter. But they kept it secret so that the existence of the cheaper option didnt act as a catalyst for the axing of the ATF.

                      The YF-24 was clearly a prototype or technology demonstration type so maybe the F-24 would have been slightly different.

                      Maybe thats why the X-32 or X-35 not designated YF-25, to hide the existence of the YF-24.

                      There were numerous ideas for upgraded F-15s. None of them had a forward-swept wing. The most extensive was probably the F-15 MANX.
                      A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. - George Bernard Shaw

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                      • Ja Worsley
                        The last sane man a live!
                        • Jan 2000
                        • 6550

                        #12
                        I seriously doubt that we will ever see the full extent of the US military research no matter how much time passes! This YF-24 might even be in the same catagory as the fabled F-19. Still, nice PS pics, wonder what other ones are out there.
                        It's a good thing you are short, that way you don't have to live up to a high IQ!

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                        • sea vixen
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 616

                          #13
                          i like that new phantom variant.. that would keep the F-4 going for a few more years.

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                          • Mad Planeman
                            Junior Member
                            • May 2006
                            • 1

                            #14
                            Originally posted by fightingirish

                            I'm a lurker here but posting that Phantom pic made me start posting. I'm the artist for that creation. It was a joke on another forum and in no way meant to be deceptive, the tones mismatch is intentional. "Gotta go pimp my Fantom man!".


                            Re YF-24, who knows but the idea of using FSWs doesn't seem as far out of the question as people are saying IMO. The mere fact that the image shows FSW in no way proves its fake so let's be a bit fairer. And i don't follow why the YF-24 would be a Black Widow variant either - as cool as the YF-23 looks, the F-22 can carry the same bomb load anyway. And why would they have to keep a bomber of that nature secret anyway? cool idea but it doesn't fly in my mind. I'd be glad if I was proven wrong though because the Black Widow is a beaut.

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                            • Rocky
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 669

                              #15
                              It looks to me that the center of lift would be too far aft if it was a real aircraft.

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                              • sferrin
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 9981

                                #16
                                Just a quick hack job but. . . .
                                A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. - George Bernard Shaw

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                                • raids13
                                  Redefining Existence
                                  • Jun 2005
                                  • 564

                                  #17
                                  sferrin... you da man!!!!
                                  In Search Of Consciousness

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                                  • miesten
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 284

                                    #18
                                    The missing fighter?
                                    F-24 to F-31, F-33, F-34. Do anyone got any info on this designation. The US can't simply swap to F-35.
                                    What is so civil about civil war? - GnR

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                                    • michelf
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Aug 2005
                                      • 402

                                      #19
                                      And why not....?

                                      The numbering system is not perforce linear.....F-117 anyone...

                                      The X planes follow their own system and once named X-35 its pretty easy to be lazy and say its the F-35...rather than going back to the next logical number...

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                                      • JAZZ
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Jan 2005
                                        • 122

                                        #20
                                        F-24

                                        I suspect the is a logic to numbering of fighter projects. The only thing I have found and that was in 2000 on the net was this. Speculation...concept Idea don't know. Don't care either ....it was also shown with a UCAV version.
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