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  • pometablava
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Jun 2005
    • 68

    Unbuilt Projects - LAMPS III contenders

    I'm an amateur researcher on unbuilt aerospace projects. It is a hard work to preserve the aerospace design memory but that's my passion. (I thank Keypublishing for its next Air Enthusiast November/December 2005 issue!!)

    I'd like to ask for some help about a Kaman helicopter design I saw in a magazine but from which I have no pics

    Kaman proposed a LAMPS III design which looked like an enlarged Seasprite.
    Can anybody show me a pic or drawing of this design?
    "Manzana" in corpore sano
  • SteveO
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 1896

    #2
    I don't know anything about a enlarged Seasprite but I think the Kaman YSH2E Seasprite tested LAMPS III equipment http://www.helispot.com/photos/01296.html
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    • Iranian F-14A
      Tomcats Forever
      • Feb 2005
      • 465

      #3
      There was a model of the Boeing YUH-61A that was proposed to the US Navy before the SH-60 was selected.Not sure if it was ever tested with the LAMPS III avonics,but still,interesting unbuilt chopper.

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      • pometablava
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Jun 2005
        • 68

        #4
        Thanks a lot for the pic SteveO!! and thanks for the info Iranian (do you have a pic of this LAMPS III configured YUH-61A model?)


        I have a very sketchy drawing by myself about the Kaman LAMPS III proposal but I would like to see the real thing...
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        "Manzana" in corpore sano

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        • Iranian F-14A
          Tomcats Forever
          • Feb 2005
          • 465

          #5
          Nope,no pic of the YUH-61A LAMPS,although,I seem to remember a b&w pic in a book,maybe not.Its been a few years since I read about it.And is it me,or does that drawing look like a Sea King? The engines,the landing gear sponsons,even the body look right on like a SH-3 Sea King,although cude.

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          • JAZZ
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Jan 2005
            • 122

            #6
            Kaman LAMPS-III

            Copy of LAMPS-III image from Interavia
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            • GZYL
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2000
              • 1194

              #7
              There's a colour picture in Bill Gunstons Modern Military Aircraft.... but this book was published waaaaay back in 1977... This is a time when the Boeing YC-14 and McDD YC-15 were flying... when the F/A-18 was still known as the YF-17... when the MiG-29 and Sukhoi Su-27 were for all intents and purposes twinkles in the designers eyes!

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              • pometablava
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Jun 2005
                • 68

                #8
                Wow,

                The sketch I made was not very accurate...

                Thanks a lot for the pic JAZZ!!!
                "Manzana" in corpore sano

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                • pometablava
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 68

                  #9
                  I can't find the book Gzyl...so if anybody can show more pics from YUH-61 LAMPS III or Kaman LAMPS III it would be of great insterest for me.

                  Thanks!
                  "Manzana" in corpore sano

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                  • SteveO
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 1896

                    #10
                    Boeing YUH-61A
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                    • TinWing
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 950

                      #11
                      Not only did Boeing's YUH-61 lose the LAMPS III competition to Sikorsky, Boeing also lost to the Hughes (later McDonnell Douglas) AH-64 in the AAH competition.

                      Boeing got as far as a mock-up with strange staggered side-by-side seating combined with a rotor system borrowed from the YUH-61.

                      I've attached a low quality scan of a Boeing publicity photo.
                      Last edited by TinWing; 14th July 2007, 21:54.

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                      • SteveO
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 1896

                        #12
                        TinWing, thanks for sharing that Boeing AAH pic, it's the strangest looking attack helicopter I've seen for a while

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                        • Ja Worsley
                          The last sane man a live!
                          • Jan 2000
                          • 6550

                          #13
                          TinWing, thanks for sharing that Boeing AAH pic, it's the strangest looking attack helicopter I've seen for a while
                          What about this one mate?



                          Or thins one?



                          Or even this one?

                          It's a good thing you are short, that way you don't have to live up to a high IQ!

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                          • pometablava
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 68

                            #14
                            I found the YSH-61 pic at last!

                            It is here:

                            Precious "whatiff" computer art and a scan of the real design from Boeing

                            http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum/...showtopic=7383
                            "Manzana" in corpore sano

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                            • franc
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 625

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TinWing
                              Not only did Boeing's YUH-61 lose the LAMPS III competition to Sikorsky, Boeing also lost to the Hughes (later McDonnell Douglas) AH-64 in the AAH competition.
                              Boeing got as far as a mock-up with strange staggered side-by-side seating combined with a rotor system borrowed from the YUH-61.
                              I've attached a low quality scan of a Boeing publicity photo.
                              Very interesting of your Boeing AAH mockup. It seem to be a paratactic seat helicoptoer, but the photo is too small to be clear, could you post a clear one?
                              Last edited by franc; 14th August 2006, 13:02.
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                              • sferrin
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 9981

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Ja Worsley
                                What about this one mate?
                                While I'll admit the Cheyenne is pretty dorky looking sitting on the ground I've always thought that once it's gear's up it's THE best looking attack helicopter of all time. That or the Sikorsky S-67. IMO Boeing's wins the prize for butt-ugly (maybe they were trying to go for the record with the X-32 :diablo: )
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                                • Trident
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • May 2004
                                  • 3965

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by sferrin
                                  While I'll admit the Cheyenne is pretty dorky looking sitting on the ground I've always thought that once it's gear's up it's THE best looking attack helicopter of all time. That or the Sikorsky S-67.
                                  The S-67 for sure! Most elegant helo ever
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                                  • Pioneer
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Aug 2005
                                    • 722

                                    #18
                                    I found the YSH-61 pic at last!It is here:

                                    Precious "whatiff" computer art and a scan of the real design from Boeing
                                    Hi Pometablava

                                    Under what sub heading do I find this picture of the Boeing-Vertol YSH-61?

                                    Regards
                                    Pioneer

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                                    • Pioneer
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Aug 2005
                                      • 722

                                      #19
                                      I know this is a few years late pometablava, but I hope these might still be of some help!

                                      Regards
                                      Pioneer
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                                      • Gerard
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Aug 2009
                                        • 3153

                                        #20
                                        interesting, thanks!
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