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The best European 3rd gen, Single-Engined fighter: Viggen, Flogger, or Mirage F-1?

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  • J-20
    Rank 4 Registered User
    • Jan 2018
    • 188

    The best European 3rd gen, Single-Engined fighter: Viggen, Flogger, or Mirage F-1?

    Enough time has passed and the last variants of these birds is now going away.

    I think these three are interesting as they are in many ways similar. Single-Engined aircraft associated mainly with the 70s and early 80s
    designed for European woppers. about the same weight class

    Sweden and Soviets went a similar approach.. multiple a2a, a2g, rec variants based on a common air frame
    Same for Mirage F1, although it had less variants and went more multi-role

    the main difference was the wing and and configuration.

    now that we got all the data and can look back.
    which was the better design overall? or better for each mission?
  • Vans
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Oct 2015
    • 135

    #2
    The Mig-23 was the worst of the 3 for air to air.

    The Mirage F1 had the longer reach with its Super 530D missile
    the JA-37, especially in the 80s, had the better radar and better medium range missiles. I think at the end of its life it could even fire AMRAAM

    MiG-23 was probably far more maintenance heavy and expensive to operate i bet with its swing wings.

    but for air to ground roles, I think this is harder.

    Mig-27 swing wings did give it better low speed performance and the type did well in India
    Mirage F1 could carry the exocet
    I believe teh AJ-37 probably had the best load capability

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    • J-20
      Rank 4 Registered User
      • Jan 2018
      • 188

      #3
      Originally posted by Vans View Post
      The Mig-23 was the worst of the 3 for air to air.

      The Mirage F1 had the longer reach with its Super 530D missile
      the JA-37, especially in the 80s, had the better radar and better medium range missiles. I think at the end of its life it could even fire AMRAAM

      MiG-23 was probably far more maintenance heavy and expensive to operate i bet with its swing wings.

      but for air to ground roles, I think this is harder.

      Mig-27 swing wings did give it better low speed performance and the type did well in India
      Mirage F1 could carry the exocet
      I believe teh AJ-37 probably had the best load capability
      For air to ground, the Flogger wasnt too bad.

      Useful pylons for bombs and shet

      Mirage 4 only, (other 2 AAMs only)
      Flogger 4, the other 3 are likely only missiles or fuel tank
      Viggen 4-6 depending on weapon

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      • roberto_yeager
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Feb 2006
        • 936

        #4
        Originally posted by J-20 View Post

        Mirage 4 only, (other 2 AAMs only)




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