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By: 26th December 2004 at 12:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-in terms of aesthetics i like the Yak-141 but the best VSTOL engine/system to my taste if that of the Harrier and X-32
By: 27th December 2004 at 07:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Yep me same ... but I always admire the Russians for kind of innovations they do..
Anyhow does any one now why such a beautiful aircraft DO-31 was scrapped???
It was a beauty... i think it was the first and the only ever attempted jet powered STOVL cargo plane?
By: 27th December 2004 at 08:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Glad they didnt choose the Boeing version of the JSF- the 32 whatchamacallit.
It looks butt ugly.
By: 27th December 2004 at 11:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Glad they didnt choose the Boeing version of the JSF- the 32 whatchamacallit.
It looks butt ugly.
That's character! And by far the more interesting design too - the one-piece machined upper fuselage/wing being just one of the engineering marvels of the thing.
By: 27th December 2004 at 11:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Glad they didnt choose the Boeing version of the JSF- the 32 whatchamacallit.
It looks butt ugly.
Certainly was not beautiful but it`s propulsion system was quit advanced for me it was the most advanced VSTOL system ever created better than any thing seen previously, direct lift what a marvelous engine the Pratt & Whitney F-119-PW
By: 28th December 2004 at 06:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Hey All there was four fan lift Aircraft project in USA I dont remember the exact name Does someone has more Details???
By: 28th December 2004 at 07:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-This is the XC-142A, the whole wing tilted. The aircraft you're looking for was the Bell X-22. Other X-Planes involved with VTOL testing were the X-13, X-14, and X-19.
By: 28th December 2004 at 07:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The X-22
The X-14
The X-19
By: 28th December 2004 at 12:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-WOW!!!!
Hey You took me offf my feet by posting those superb Photo Yes U were Correct ... i was looking for X-22..!!:) Thanks SOC.... X-22 might see revival in form of Skycar
Hey one More request can u Post & Name another Jet Powered US VSTOL project... which used the most queer vertical lift principal... I dont remember exact details I saw it on Discovery... It used a conventional Jet Engine,.... But for lift purposes it used to Open Vents on Spine of aircraft.... and used the power of airsucked into those vents
to lift aircraft Up...
Heck:mad: I cant explain correctly
By: 28th December 2004 at 13:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-WOW!!!!Hey You took me offf my feet by posting those superb Photo Yes U were Correct ... i was looking for X-22..!!:) Thanks SOC.... X-22 might see revival in form of Skycar
Hey one More request can u Post & Name another Jet Powered US VSTOL project... which used the most queer vertical lift principal... I dont remember exact details I saw it on Discovery... It used a conventional Jet Engine,.... But for lift purposes it used to Open Vents on Spine of aircraft.... and used the power of airsucked into those vents
to lift aircraft Up...Heck:mad: I cant explain correctly
Though not American, as such.
By: 28th December 2004 at 14:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Ba609, a civilian 6-9 passenger tiltrotor in development by Bellagusta. Cruising speed of 275 kts, range about 1,400km with a 2,500 kg payload. Figure if the thing works it probably gets into somebody's military or coast guard someplace.
By: 28th December 2004 at 20:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Hey one More request can u Post & Name another Jet Powered US VSTOL project... which used the most queer vertical lift principal... I dont remember exact details I saw it on Discovery... It used a conventional Jet Engine,.... But for lift purposes it used to Open Vents on Spine of aircraft.... and used the power of airsucked into those vents
to lift aircraft Up...
Do you mean this one, the Rockwell XFV-12 for the US Navy?
By: 28th December 2004 at 20:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-x-13 vertijet rules!!!!!,for me is the smarter concept, but i know it was plagued of problems, maybe with an hidraulic feet could work (for the horizontal position)
By: 28th December 2004 at 20:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-OOH SOC nice post, when i first saw a photo of that plane i thought it was extra terastrial ( back in 1995-6)!
By: 28th December 2004 at 20:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The funny part is that the design was a total and utter failure, having nowhere near the thrust needed to perform a VTOL takeoff. It never flew. Some designer really dropped the ball on this one.
By: 29th December 2004 at 06:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Thnks for ur Effort Guys But sadly none of the mentioned aircrafts are the aircraft that I am looking for !
Crusader:)
Doesnt VAK-191 resembles the YAK36 aircraft ?.... The link u posted was all in Russian So I couldnt comprehend.
SOC
Thanks for that Last Picture I am seeing that picture for the first time :)
But it isnt that aircraft.:(.It was 60- 70 era project...that project too failed for similar reasons... The weight of th Engine was so much... that it couldnt carry any major weapon load... But it was able to perform Vertical take off and landings
By: 29th December 2004 at 08:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-German plane VFW VC-400
Year 1968
By: 29th December 2004 at 08:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-is it me or has every VTOL combat aircraft has had a severe lack of range? some how I remain skeptical of the F-35B variant.
By: 29th December 2004 at 09:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-is it me or has every VTOL combat aircraft has had a severe lack of range? some how I remain skeptical of the F-35B variant.
Majority of proposed VTOL projects were scrapped because they lacked range,Ate too much fuel, couldnt carry respectable weapon/cargo load, were too noisy or country simply loosed intrest in them!! :eek:
Any How Does any one know more of This french project ??? :confused:
By: 29th December 2004 at 10:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Any How Does any one know more of This french project ??? :confused:
This is the "Soucoupe Volante" (French for Flying Saucer, d'oh! :D ) by René Couzinet of France. Built 1955.
Couzinet's concept was for an "aircraft with multiple wings allowing vertical or horizontal flight". But the govt refused to finance his research, and he had to abandon the prototype in 1956.
René Couzinet had achieved fame in the 1930s with his "arc-en-ciel" planes.
Here is an aft view of the SV concept.
HTH
DAN
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By: Lava - 25th December 2004 at 20:09
Hmmm.... I was always feeling that there was something I missed on this forum... That was a thread dedicated to STOVL(Short take off Vertical Landing) Aircrafts... I lack knowledge/Info on this topic... So plz gentelmen can u help me in builiding good knowledge on this topic :) ...I would really appreciate information on STOVL projects(old/new).
Just to kick start the topic... here are some pictures of Famous and not so famous STOVL projects
Yak 141
Yak36
Yak38
Mirage-3V "Balzac"
Dornier31
Bell Model 68 / X-14
Ryan X-13 Vertijet
Harrier
F-35 JSF
F-32
Osprey