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  • Vympel
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Jan 2000
    • 2504

    MiG 1.44 really is back from the "dead"

    Big article

    RSK MiG Resumes Work on Project 1.44

    By 2008, the corporation's orders on hand will be 6 million dollars

    RSK MiG management received a delegation of State Duma deputies on 10 June. The corporation's general director, Valeriy Toryanin, and deputy director of the RSK MiG Engineering Center, Andrey Karasev, gave a presentation on the enterprise for the legislators, and also displayed the shop for experimental production to them.

    Included in the delegation were the first deputy chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense, Aleksey Sigutkin, the chairman of the Expert Council on Questions of Aviation and Cosmonautics and member of the State Duma Committee on Industry, Construction and High Technology, Aleksandr Belousov, deputy chairman of the State Duma Committee n Industry, Construction and High Technology, Yuriy Savel'ev, and deputy chair of the State Duma Defense Committee, Svetlana Savitskaya. ((Savitskaya is a former pilot who has set world-class records for women in various aircraft.)) According to Aleksey Sigutkin, the deputies visited RSK MiG in order to have a real concept of the enterprise's condition. In the near future it is planned to undertake another series of excursions around the design bureaus and plants of the aircraft building industry.

    Appearing before the deputies, the RSK MiG general director Valeriy Toryanin noted that recently, after the change of the corporation's management, definite progress in its development is being observed. In particular, the orders on hand for the year has increased from 1.4 to 2.6 billion dollars, and by 2008, it is intended to extend it to 6 billion dollars. There are all the prerequisites for it. The corporation has new developments and upgrade variants of previously manufactured aircraft which are of interest to foreign customers. "Ever newer and newer customers appear with every day who wish to buy new modifications of the MiG-29 fighter," Valeriy Toryanin noted. The right of independent export of its product and also a significant production potential are enabling RSK MiG's firm position in the marketplace. The enterprises included in the corporation are providing a full cycle of an airplane's life - from development to utilization. RSK MiG's capabilities allow the execution of practically any contract. The corporation's production facilities are estimated for the production of 200 MiG-29 type fighters a year. As of today, the are at approximately 35% of capacity.

    The deputy director of the RSK MiG Engineering Center, Andrey Karasev, named as most prospective for Russian and foreign air forces such RSK MiG aircraft as the MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB and the MiG-29SM and MiG-29SMT fighters produced earlier are being upgraded to this level, the MiG-29M/M2 are completely new and the most modern airplanes of the family, which will be delivered to customers from 2005-2006, and also the MiG-AT new generation combat training airplane and MiG-31 interceptor, experimental design work on its completion is being performed in the interests of the Russian Federation air force.

    Work also is not stopping at the MiG firm on the fifth generation fighter. As Andrey Karasev declared, "three weeks ago the general director of our corporation adopted a decision regarding the unfolding of further work on the 1.44 airplane." In the opinion of the Engineering Center's deputy director, the realization of this project will be less costly and simpler for Russia than the creation of a new fighter, inasmuch as all technical developments on the 1.44 airplane connected with the engine, aerodynamics, and primary airplane systems have not gone out of date. Only the avionics need be substituted, which have been developing rapidly in recent years. According to Andrey Karasev, a task to resume tests of the 1.44 airplane before the end of 2004 has been delivered to the Engineering Center. In Andrey Karasev's opinion, the circumstance, that the idea of heavy fighter has been chosen as fundamental for the Russian air force, should not nullify the great amount of work carried out at the MiG firm on the creation of a fifth generation airplane.

    State Duma deputies examined the experimental production shop and the static tests hall with great interest. As Aleksey Sigutkin noted, RSK MiG is operating in the complex conditions of a tough competitive struggle, but at the same time it is noted that the corporation is picking up steam. "There are problems, however, management sees how to resolve them."

    Aleksandr Belousov, who also heads the expert council on questions of aviation and cosmonautics, noted that the level of equipping the Russian air force is causing anxiety against the background of RSK MiG's successful activity in the area of military and technical cooperation. In his opinion, "aircraft should be created which are a generation above those that go for export." By all appearances, it is necessary for the elected representatives of the people to work in this direction too. You see, according to Aleksandr Belousov, "without the creation of a complete legislative base, it simply is not possible for say that Russia will recover for itself the laurels of a great aviation power".

    Source: 17.06.04, Voenno-Promyshlennyy Kur'er
    As you can see, the interest is for the VVS, not a foreign country.

    I must admit, simply because I know what the MiG 'MFI' was to look like (similar to the 1.44, with some modifications ... right?) in contrast to the unseen PAK FA, I'm pretty excited.
    Last edited by Vympel; 18th June 2004, 07:25.
  • seahawk
    F-4 Phanatic
    • Jan 2000
    • 4616

    #2
    So Russia might decide to finance PAK-FA and MFI ??
    Member of ACIG

    an unnamed Luftwaffe officer:"Typhoon is a warm weather plane. If you want to be operational at -20C you have to deploy the F-4F."

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    • Vympel
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Jan 2000
      • 2504

      #3
      Doubt it. There's not enough for both.

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      • WACHENR0DER
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2003
        • 777

        #4
        Does the 1.44 have an internal bay? I can't tell from some of the pics..
        The Su-47 at least did have what appeared to be one.

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        • matt
          Satyameva jayate
          • Sep 2003
          • 4928

          #5
          maybe the PAK-FA would be export only ? Similar to what the Russians tried to do by buying one Jet trainer and trying to export to India another jet trainer so that as many companys as possible remain funded
          Wrinkles wrinkles my kingdom fallen to a wrinkle

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          • seahawk
            F-4 Phanatic
            • Jan 2000
            • 4616

            #6
            Originally posted by Vympel
            Doubt it. There's not enough for both.
            Same here. But imho did not other nations sign up to finance and join the Pak-FA project ?
            Imho this talk is damaging to russian aviation industry. It is nice to announce many projects, but is even better to finish some.
            Member of ACIG

            an unnamed Luftwaffe officer:"Typhoon is a warm weather plane. If you want to be operational at -20C you have to deploy the F-4F."

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            • Srbin
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2003
              • 2137

              #7
              Yes MFI does have a huge internal bay, something like 12 internal hardpoints. About 4 more than F-22's.

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              • aerospacetech
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Jan 2000
                • 1459

                #8
                hmmm. Not sure exactly where that is, looking at the scale plans...
                Available now: my book Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects from Blue Envoy Press

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                • Sameer
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 1206

                  #9
                  Hmm the MFI is a huge bird and will be quite expensive, who can really afford it?

                  Maybe Saudi Arabia will make a powerful political statement in the next 20 yrs when they retire their F-15s and then opt for the MFI?

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                  • bring_it_on
                    2005-year of the RAPTOR!!
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 12422

                    #10
                    i dont see the house trying to shoot itself in the leg by trying to make a statement to the united states....unless ofcource it turns out like iran...but as of now SA wants to increase its interoperability with US and other western forces so going in a tottally different direction may not be that suited to their current plans
                    Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                    • aerospacetech
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Jan 2000
                      • 1459

                      #11
                      Here's a nice TsAGI diagram showing something to do with 5th generation configurations- they seem to compare an F-16 datum with an MFI type and an Su-32/37 Berkut type.

                      We need both Polish and Russian speakers to interpret.
                      Last edited by aerospacetech; 7th December 2006, 07:20.
                      Available now: my book Hawker P.1103 and P.1121: Camm's Last Fighter Projects from Blue Envoy Press

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                      • Vympel
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Jan 2000
                        • 2504

                        #12
                        Originally posted by aerospacetech
                        hmmm. Not sure exactly where that is, looking at the scale plans...
                        I don't think the MiG 1.44 prototype had them, but the actual 'MFI' aircraft (unbuilt?) supposedly does. I assume in an F/A-22 style configuration- belly for the BVR missiles, sides of the intakes for WVR missiles.

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                        • GDL
                          GDL
                          Aussie Analyst
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 1378

                          #13
                          In Andrey Karasev's opinion, the circumstance, that the idea of heavy fighter has been chosen as fundamental for the Russian air force, should not nullify the great amount of work carried out at the MiG firm on the creation of a fifth generation airplane
                          I am excited too, but a little confused. What is the long term goal of continuing work on the MFI design? The PAK-FA has been given to Sukhoi has it not? Could the MiG 1.44 eventually be seen as a heavy weight option to replace the MiG-31? And therefore fly along side the PAK-FA in future?
                          ~ Glenn - Endgltige Vernichtung - !

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                          • Sammie
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 108

                            #14
                            Maybe they are just going to use the MiG-1.44 prototype to test certain technology or avionics later to be used on the PAK-FA. There are plenty of reports that the total burden of the PAK-Fa would be shared between the three main fighter design bureaux (Sukhoi, Yakovlev and MiG).

                            This could be just MiG's addition to the PAK FA, and offcourse its a good reason for RSK MiG to boost their ability to produce and fly a very advanced aircraft like the MiG-1.44 I would love to see it fly with actual Al-41 instead of the D-30s

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                            • Meteorit
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 95

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sammie
                              I would love to see it fly with actual Al-41 instead of the D-30s
                              The 1.44 already has AL-41s. Its the Su-47 with the D-30s.

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                              • Sammie
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 108

                                #16
                                damn, you're right



                                thanks

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