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By: 14th June 2004 at 12:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-is the white one f-17?
By: 14th June 2004 at 12:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Yes
By: 14th June 2004 at 12:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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By: 14th June 2004 at 15:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The reason why that F-17 was painted in French colours escapes me. As far as I know France was never interested in the USAF Lightweight fighter programme. Only later they expressed interest when badly needing a replacement for their Crusader mid-eighties. A USN Hornet even made some touch-and-go landings on a French Carrier.
The Greek Gina makes more sence. An order was placed but later cancelled, the aircraft already produced transferred to West-Germany.
mark
By: 14th June 2004 at 15:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Did GD ever paint the F-111K in RAF colors?
By: 14th June 2004 at 16:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The reason why that F-17 was painted in French colours escapes me. As far as I know France was never interested in the USAF Lightweight fighter programme. Only later they expressed interest when badly needing a replacement for their Crusader mid-eighties. A USN Hornet even made some touch-and-go landings on a French Carrier.The Greek Gina makes more sence. An order was placed but later cancelled, the aircraft already produced transferred to West-Germany.
mark
Hi Mark,
Nice to see you back, how are you doing ?
IIRC, that F-17 was proposed to replace the Crusader, but I could be wrong... I know I have it in a book at home.
By: 14th June 2004 at 16:13 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I don't know about a British-marked F-111, it's one of my silent hopes for this thread though ;) Good find on the Yak-23. It was a Romanian machine which defected to Yugoslavia in 1953. One of the conditions under which Yugoslavia would get it's F-84s was that this airplane was to be tried by the US for some time. I didn't know what happened with it afterwards, but appearantly it was returned to Yugoslavia - guess they gave it back to Romania again.
Here's some more.
By: 14th June 2004 at 16:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Well, looking to my database list I have found following:
French, Russian, German and USAF SIAI SF-260s, obviously civil aircraft for Combat Aircraft Wargames
German T-6
RAF IA-58, RAF A109
Swedish AH-64 (yes, the markings were applied)
Swiss MS-760 Paris and AS-202
G-2 Galeb with Indonesian fin flags used by IPTN as a test aircraft
Israeli MiG-23, MiG-21, MiG-17 and SA342, L-39 for evaluation purposes, MiG-29 for aggressor role
Mirage 2000B with South African squadron badges
US ARMY FIAT G-91 and Pilatus PC-9 (or were they really in active service?)
USAF CM-170, MiG-21F (F-113)
A-500 is full USCG markings
There are also civilian SF-260s with Burkina Faso and Libyan markings and BAC167 in Botswanian markings circulating round the net, but I guess these were originally flown by the respective Air Forces, as well.
By: 14th June 2004 at 17:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Good list you've got, Flex.
RAF IA-58, RAF A109
Falkland war booty, there was also a Puma. The civil UH-1H G-HUEY was also ex-Argentinian.
Swedish AH-64 (yes, the markings were applied)
Swiss MS-760 Paris and AS-202
G-2 Galeb with Indonesian fin flags used by IPTN as a test aircraft
Those are all new to me, if you feel like sharing...
Israeli MiG-23, MiG-21, MiG-17 and SA342, L-39 for evaluation purposes, MiG-29 for aggressor role
Mirage 2000B with South African squadron badges
US ARMY FIAT G-91 and Pilatus PC-9 (or were they really in active service?)
Yep, know of those and have pics as well. The PC-9s actually were in service as chaseplanes.
USAF CM-170, MiG-21F (F-113)
A-500 is full USCG markings
An American Fouga? Never knew that, but then again they were pleased enough with the Marboré engine to have it whistling T-37s through the air...
The other ones were as you said common military aircraft (Lybia had a huge pile of SF260s), but probably with civil transfer/test regs.
Another category would of course be the zapped aircraft. An RAFG Jaguar from Brüggen appearantly was zapped completely with German balkenkreuz and bortnummer, but i've never seen a pic of it unfortunately.
But how about a USMC Thunderchief?
By: 14th June 2004 at 17:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Well, here's Australia's B-52!
By: 14th June 2004 at 18:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-There are a pair of great-looking F-100F Super Sabres in the collection at Glenn L. Martin, Baltimore still painted in their US Army markings. Think they were both used as chase planes during live firing tests at White Sands.
Here's one:
Steve ~ Touchdown-News
By: 14th June 2004 at 18:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Well, here's Australia's B-52!
Where? :)
By: 14th June 2004 at 18:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Good list you've got, Flex.Those are all new to me, if you feel like sharing...
Sure, mate, I will post them tomorrow..
By: 14th June 2004 at 19:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Where?
Mate it's in Darwin, tucked up with a few nice things in there, as you can see there is one of our old Wessex 32B's there and a really nicely painted MU-2!
By: 14th June 2004 at 20:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-What's the story on the USMC Thud?
By: 14th June 2004 at 21:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-What's the story on the USMC Thud?
Marines-humor. Da Nang 1965.
This is a Canadian B-47 called CL-52. Somebody should find a better picture.
By: 14th June 2004 at 21:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-What's the story on the USMC Thud?
It was a regular USAF Thud, but during the Vietnam war it made an emergency/precautionary landing at Da Nang, and the aircraft was parked at the VMCJ-1 ramp (a Marines recce/ew squadron). The Thud was left unattended for some time (probably waiting for spares, or for a ferry pilot or whatever). A brave Marine who knew about the fine art of zapping grabbed his chance, and painted one side of it with VMCJ-1 markings. There is a story-from-a-guy-who-was-there at http://business.quadlink.net/adirondack/mcarapage4seastories/marinef105/
As for the other ones i've posted so far:
By: 15th June 2004 at 06:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Here's something, A Mig 15 in USAF markings
And here's it's story
Operation Moolah- To steal a North Korean Mig 15
By: 15th June 2004 at 12:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-There is that Canadair CL-13 Sabre in Israeli colors but I can't find that picture...
BTW, did you know that that MiG-21, now called MiG-21 2000, came to Israel as a total wreck from Ethiopia?
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By: Arthur - 14th June 2004 at 11:20
Just for the sake of it. Quite a number of times an aircraft demonstrator flew in the colours of an air arm which never actually operated it. Or an aircraft was painted in the colours of a customer, only to get the deal embargoed before delivery. Or an aircraft was given false markings for whatever reason. Or the painter didn't know how to do his job.
(PS: there shall obviously be no photoshopping!)