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  • halloweene
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    • Jan 2012
    • 4229

    Finland insist on testinf F-35 prior to buying.

    https://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/a/...a-d620a78601b8

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    • bring_it_on
      2005-year of the RAPTOR!!
      • Jun 2004
      • 12481

      There are multiple ways a potential user can evaluate the aircraft and the processes are very similar to the F teens though if you wanted your own pilot to fly you would naturally have to spend some cash. The cheapest way could simply be to embed your evaluators into DOT&E teams and monitor those activities. FOT&E activities in support of block-4 will even feature stealth targets (5GAT) and other higher end threat systems currently in the works.

      There are also M&S facility at Wright Patt and elsewhere where partners and potential customers with adequate security clearance can get access to performance against specific threat systems under various mission scenarios.
      Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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      • SpudmanWP
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Jan 2009
        • 5234

        There are a range of options from letting them use the FMS & other training tools to sending some of their test pilots through the F-35's transition course.
        "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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        • TomcatViP
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Nov 2011
          • 5959

          Seen here : https://breakingdefense.com/2018/11/...5s-in-the-air/

          capable rate for this F-35 deployment (to the U.K., Estonia and Bulgaria) was 87.5 percent, Col. David Lyons, the 388th Fighter Wing commander, told reporters. And my current rate for my F-16s that are doing great work in Spain is 75 percent.
          [...]
          The F-35s per flight hour operating costs have already fallen and are edging closer to those of of F-16, according to Air Force officials. At the Farnborough Air Show in July, Lockheed Martin executives said they believe they can reduce operation and maintenance costs by 38 percent over the next decade.

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          • SpudmanWP
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Jan 2009
            • 5234

            We can see part of that "$12k" drop in the annual RCPFH numbers released by the DoD.





            Where RCPFH sits in the whole CPFH schema:

            "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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            • TomcatViP
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Nov 2011
              • 5959

              Interesting read regarding the C:

              Navy Stands Up Joint Strike Fighter Wing to Oversee F-35C Operations, Training, Manning

              VFA-147 will pave the way for the fleet as the squadron to go through the IOC process and then the first to deploy. McCoy said the squadron is fully manned and operating like any other squadron in the Navy. Pilots have been conducting field carrier landings ashore, ahead of heading out to sea to conduct carrier qualifications on USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70). Once all the pilots are carrier-qualified in early December, the squadron will be declared safe for flight and then theyll be off to the races operating ahead of their formal testing.

              147 has absolutely knocked it out of the park; they have had zero defects on all of their inspections, their maintenance programs as well as their weapons inspections, McCoy said, noting that he doesnt see any hurdles between now and the squadrons safe for flight certification, which is the last IOC-related event the JSF wing can control.
              [...]
              For now, theres still a lot to learn, but McCoy said the F-35C maintainer base was growing quickly and that pilot production should accelerate soon too. The F-35C community is about 400 or 500 strong, with more than 50 pilots to date.
              Source:
              USNI.org
              Last edited by TomcatViP; 30th November 2018, 14:19.

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              • halloweene
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Jan 2012
                • 4229

                After NL "errors" in costing F-35, ANAO do not know how much they will cost...

                https://www.anao.gov.au/work/perform...nd-sustainment

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                • Sintra
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 3832

                  Hallo, they do know how much they will cost to acquire, they havent figured yet how much they will cost to sustain through their whole life, diferent thing
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                  • bring_it_on
                    2005-year of the RAPTOR!!
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 12481

                    But if he put it that way it wouldn't sound as good would it? Given that the US CAPE itself has constantly changed the 50+ year O&S estimate over the years is a good indication that these costs are not very easy to model with high degree of accuracy. Over time, with more data they will be able to better predict long term cost.

                    I would actually be surprised if the RAAF could accurately predict the lifecycle cost of its Growlers given the upcoming NGJ-MB and NGJ-LB systems and their sustainment needs.
                    Last edited by bring_it_on; 5th December 2018, 15:27.
                    Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                    • Bayar
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                      • Oct 2014
                      • 883

                      President Erdogan of Turkey confirms that Turkey will be purchasing 120 F-35's including 20 F-35B's: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...om-us-erdogan/

                      The first two F-35 fighter jets were transferred to Turkey at Lockheed Martins facility in Fort Worth, Texas in June 2018.

                      The United States will hand over another two more F-35s in March 2019. By the end of 2019 Turkey intends to field 30 F-35's.

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                      • bring_it_on
                        2005-year of the RAPTOR!!
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 12481

                        Originally posted by Bayar
                        The United States will hand over another two more F-35s in March 2019. By the end of 2019 Turkey intends to field 30 F-35's.
                        Based on public information, Turkey ordered 2 F-35As in Lot-10, and 4 F-35As in Lot-11 which will be delivered in 2019. If everything goes per plan, Turkey will receive a full complement of 30 F-35As currently on order only after Lot-14 with 8 aircraft delivered each year in Lots 12-14. So it seems that by the end of 2019, Turkey will have a total of 6 F-35As, not 30.

                        https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...-order-430947/
                        Last edited by bring_it_on; 18th December 2018, 06:06.
                        Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                        • Bayar
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 883

                          bring_it_on Turkish media is reporting the above figures based on a telephone conversation between President Erdogan and President Trump this week. I also was skeptical at first..

                          Although something very interesting and unprecedented is going on between the US and Turkey of late. e.g. There is talk that Trump will release a Turkish Banker held in a New York prison for Iran sanctions evasions, extradite Fetullah Gulen (the cleric wanted by Turkey) by revoking his Green Card for Tax fraud and increase F-35 sales to Turkey...there must be some Quid pro quo going on and it may have something to do with Turkey's investigation into Kushner over the Kashoogi affair.

                          https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8685826.html
                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.97c64c2d462f

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                          • bring_it_on
                            2005-year of the RAPTOR!!
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 12481

                            It does not matter what the Turkish media is reporting or what was said in the telephone conversation. Turkey has ordered 6 F-35As as part of Lot 10 and 11 and those are the aircraft it will receive by the end of 2019. The total international partner count (excluding FMS customers) for LRIP 11 is 28 (including 4 for Turkey) so the claim is absolutely absurd and we shouldn't to be spending time and wasting bandwidth trying to figure out how they will get to 30 because it is not going to happen by end of next year.

                            As I had mentioned, Turkey has committed to 30 F-35As till now with 2 being in Lot 10, 4 in Lot 11, and 8 each in Lots 12-14. This is public information shared multiple times by the parties concerned.
                            Last edited by bring_it_on; 18th December 2018, 14:23.
                            Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                            • bring_it_on
                              2005-year of the RAPTOR!!
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 12481

                              With massive F-35 increase, Japan is now biggest international buyer

                              WASHINGTON Japan will officially increase its order of F-35 Joint Strike Fighters, including procurement of the F-35B model making the Pacific nation the second-largest buyer of the Lockheed Martin-made jet.

                              Tokyo previously planned to procure 42 F-35A models. However, a source close to the program confirmed that Japan will be adding 63 F-35A models, as well as 42 F-35B models, for a total of 147 F-35 fighters.

                              The announcement, anticipated for weeks, was rolled out as part of Japans new defense plan Tuesday.

                              The package would make Japan second only to the United States in terms of procured F-35s, with the United Kingdom (138 total fighters) now third. Japan also becomes the fourth user of the "B" model, joining the U.S. Marine Corps, the United Kingdoms Royal Air Force and the Italian Navy.

                              From an operational standpoint, the decision to procure the F-35Bs are notable, as it comes hand in hand with a plan to use an existing ship design as an aircraft carrier. The presence of Japanese carriers armed with F-35Bs would be a clear signal of power projection to China, analysts have said, and also ease coordination with U.S. Marine Corps F-35Bs already stationed in Japan. Japan is in the process of standing up its first operational F-35 unit.

                              Since coming to office, U.S. President Donald Trump has made increasing arms sale abroad a key effort, with Japan a frequent target.

                              In a company statement, prime contractor Lockheed Martin called the decision a testament to the aircrafts transformational capability and its increasing role in promoting regional stability and enhancing the US-Japan security alliance.

                              https://www.defensenews.com/global/a...ational-buyer/
                              Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                              • bring_it_on
                                2005-year of the RAPTOR!!
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 12481

                                Netherlands May Buy More F-35s


                                LONDONThe Netherlands has signaled it could purchase more Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighters after the countrys government approved further defense funding ...

                                http://aviationweek.com/awindefense/...buy-more-f-35s
                                Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                                • bring_it_on
                                  2005-year of the RAPTOR!!
                                  • Jun 2004
                                  • 12481

                                  Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                                  • bring_it_on
                                    2005-year of the RAPTOR!!
                                    • Jun 2004
                                    • 12481

                                    91'st and final F-35 (B) delivery for 2018 has occurred nearly doubling deliveries compared to 2016. The target for 2019 is a minimum of 130 aircraft deliveries.



                                    https://twitter.com/MarcusReports/st...62353516867584
                                    Last edited by bring_it_on; 20th December 2018, 21:49.
                                    Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                                    • TomcatViP
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Nov 2011
                                      • 5959

                                      Italian MoD reconciled with their F-35:

                                      We have talked about the F-35 for many years in Italy, often in a distorted way, whereas you often need to really know and evaluate information, he said.

                                      The F-35 program is now moving, and is 20 years old, and contrary to what is often said it is an aircraft which surely has the benefit of optimum technology, maybe the best in the world at this time, [ junior defense minister Angelo Tofalo] added.

                                      Source:
                                      DefenseNews.com (sourced from the News section)

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                                      • halloweene
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Jan 2012
                                        • 4229

                                        News

                                        Updated F-35 Will Get Maritime Strike Capability

                                        12/20/2018

                                        ​​​​​​JOHN A. TIRPAK​

                                        http://www.airforcemag.com/Features/...apability.aspx


                                        As usual, the program is misled. Areal Telenovela. There will be soon 10ths if not hundreds boarded F-35 with FOC, unable to perform proper heavy maritime strikes...

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                                        • bring_it_on
                                          2005-year of the RAPTOR!!
                                          • Jun 2004
                                          • 12481

                                          I believe these are software enabled maritime modes besides maritime strike weapons like the JSM which have also been scheduled as part of block-4 from their inception. As the JPO boss describes the focus with these upgrades is to improve maritima capability and notional block 4/5 charts from many years ago have always referenced to this enhanced capability being part of block 4 and 5. The Maritime strike platform for the US Navy remains the Rhino with the Harpoon, JSOW, AARGM and soon (2019) the LRASM. This will likely still remain the case even after block-4 F-35C comes to the fleet.

                                          As the article states, the operators buying the aircraft and paying for it wanted the baseline focus to be on air superiority, SEAD, CAS, and "strategic strike". These are the primary mission sets the individual operators assesed the aircraft on before declaring IOC, and this is what is being assessed yet again by the 31st TES. Follow on modernization focuses on enhancing capabilities in these specific mission areas through a combination of hardware, software and new weapons while also focusing attention and resources on other areas such as enhancing maritime strike capability, and certifying nuclear delivery though the exact extent of block-4 capability is classified so it will be some time before we know 100% of the enhancements included as part of it.

                                          Modernization and incremental upgrades are the way all current and future systems will be kept up to date and capability added periodically just as prior ones. This is the reality. I haven't done the math on this recently but I believe >85% of all F-35 lifetime deliveries will be with block 4 or higher level hardware. The exact percentage may in fact be higher. But the maritime capability is most likely a reference to enhanced maritime modes to its targeting sensors and the inclusion of new weapons like the JSM and ER-AARGM that were not mature enough to include in baseline configuration.
                                          Last edited by bring_it_on; 22nd December 2018, 16:23.
                                          Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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