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    Yeah the plan is to do it every few months. Even ALIS 4.0 is currently scheduled to drop during IOT&E with 4.1 dropping a few months after IOTE has concluded. On the hardware side, the improved helmet will also drop while IOT&E is being held and there will likely be other minor upgrades elsewhere during this time. The complete of SDD flight testing is a milestone, and not the end of development..the developers and the dev. testers will continue to support the program in the short and long term.
    Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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      UK F-35B Lightning conducts first air-air refuelling with RAF Voyager tanker over Eastern US.



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      Savetheroyalnavy.org via FB
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        ..
        PHILIPPINE SEA (April 12, 2018) The guided-missile destroyer USS Dewey (DDG 105) receives fuel from the amphibious assault ship USS Wasp (LHD 1) during a fueling-at-sea (FAS). Wasp and its expeditionary strike group (ESG) are operating in the Indo-Pacific region to enhance interoperability with partners, serve as a ready-response force for any type of contingency and advance the up-gunned ESG concept. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Taylor King/Released)
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        Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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          UK re-forms 617 Sqn for F-35B era


          The Royal Air Force's 617 Sqn – the UK's first frontline unit to field the Lockheed Martin F-35B – has been officially re-formed during a ceremony in Washington DC.

          Staffed by a mix of RAF and Royal Navy pilots and support personnel, lead elements of 617 Sqn are currently involved in training at MCAS Beaufort in South Carolina, using the UK's current 15 short take-off and vertical landing (STOVL) Lightning IIs.

          The Ministry of Defence says the UK's first F-35Bs will arrive at the type's home base at RAF Marham in Norfolk "this summer", with the service having previously outlined plans to transfer nine jets from the USA with support from Airbus Defence & Space A330 Voyager tanker/transports.Initial operational capability for the F-35B is scheduled to be declared in December 2018 for land-based operations and the Lightning II is also to be progressively cleared for use from the RN's two Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carriers by late 2020.
          Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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            Lockheed Resists $119 Million in Fixes for Its $406 Billion F-35.

            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...6-billion-f-35

            All is not well in the Billion Dollar land..
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              These are negotiations and are a part and parcel of the back and forth between the OEM who represents the suppliers, and the customer (JPO). In the past both sides have used hard negotiation tactics to drive favorable decisions..LRIP-10 contracts for example, were forced upon Lockheed as they could not agree to a price. Lockheed did not like but there wasn't much they could do about it. The JPO is in a strong position and will likely come on top but these negotiations happen all the time and in all programs..it is just amplified given the sheer size of the F-35 program. "Escapes" and issues related to those are also normal in large production programs both commercial and defense. In this case, the issues were discovered, production halted, fixes designed and implementation scheduled. Now comes the question of who pays what percentage of the cost associated with the same based on the contracts which none of us are privy to.

              In the end the JPO will likely get its pound of flesh (which it should) and the lawyers will be happy. Also note that production is not being halted so the moment this is resolved (which will likely be in the next few weeks) they can deliver all the jets that they have been producing over this time so deliveries this year will likely be close to if not exceed 90 aircraft. One would also be naive if they think that these hard tactics by Ellen lord are just about the payment on these escapes..they are to squeeze Lockheed on other issues that are currently being negotiated such as LRIP-11 and other sustainment issues (rights to some of the software and hardware). From the US A&S's perspective, if she is buying more aircraft this year she should also be able to drive a harder bargain. Her predecessor actually started this by enforcing a unilateral contract award alongside a production/delivery increase.
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              Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                carbon + Aluminium : receipe for epic fail... junior engineer mistake easy to fix, ok).

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                  The issue is not about the "Fix", that is already cut into production and was one of the reasons there was a production pause last year. The problem was because as a QC matter, Lockheed had not applied primer to some of the fastner holes on certain production jets. This was discovered on a fleet aircraft, and was further investigated. Lockheed then initiated the required training and workflow changes to make sure that this does not happen in future aircraft and drew up plans to conduct field maintiance/repairs to corect the affected production aircraft. This issue is about who pays for it. All that we are privy to based on the contract awards relates to discoveries and the cost arrangement regarding that. Only the two negotiating parties are privy to the full extent of the contract as it applies to quality escapes.

                  This is likely the source of the legal dispute and why the government took the action of stopping to take deliveries in order to apply pressure. As I said earlier, these guys are accutely aware of what impact optics can have on a public company. They obviously hope that the optics of jets lining up and zero deliveries have some imact on the OEM when it gets negative media coverage. Execs also do not like it when they don't meet their delivery targets each quarter. All this impacts shareholder confidence and stock price. So the hope is to acheive a desired negotiated outcome using all the levers available to the government.
                  Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                    I understand that. Honestly "a tempest inside a water glass". Bt however, in order to limit galvanic corrosion, better use titanium (e.g. ) fasteners with carbon fiber. titanium may rust, but better fastener than panel.

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                      Loving this thread! sub'd

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                        Titanium.. Yeah who supply US with over 40% Titanium?

                        Oh thats right, Mordor in the East.

                        Anyone wonder why US is hard at work trying to divercify their Titanium demand
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                          Originally posted by haavarla View Post
                          Titanium.. Yeah who supply US with over 40% Titanium?

                          Oh thats right, Morder in the East.

                          Anyone wonder why US is hard at work trying to divercify their Titanium demand
                          ? Im not following your logic here?

                          There is a difference between top producers and reserves. Why buy titanium from Russia? Its cheap, thats how the global marketplace works. Not exactly a rare resource that gives strategic leverage.

                          Anyway, somewhat irrelevant to the conversation here, no?

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                            Defense specific use of Titanium in the US is a very small percentage of the overall use. GAO points to 70% of all Titanium use in the US being for the Aerospace sector and only 15% of that being for defense related activity. That said, Russian titanium is used by the US, either procured by the defense suppliers directly or via one of the preferred nations who are open to procure it from a third party source. Large A&D companies however maintain their own strategic reserves and they along with the DOD have plans and contingencies incase they need alternate sources. I do agree that the original post regarding it had absolutely nothing to do with this thread...
                            Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                              Majority of British F-35B fleet to arrive in UK this summer
                              Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                                Emergency landing in Japan

                                http://www3.nhk.or.jp/lnews/kitakyus...020000364.html

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                                  First pilots of the first USN Operational squadron (VFA-147 "Argonauts") conduct their first flight. IOC window for the F-35C is late 2018 0 early 2019.

                                  https://twitter.com/flynavy/status/988813039364263936
                                  Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                                    One USMC F-35 made Emergency landing to JASDF Tsuiki AB Japan.
                                    Whatever the issue was, it was not bad enough to force an immediate engine shutdown as the F-35B drove itself off the runway.
                                    "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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                                      This click-bait appeared on the News thread

                                      The F-35 has a basic flaw that means an F-22 hybrid could outclass it — and that's a big problem

                                      This line is BS
                                      The new fighter could force the US into a tough decision about the future of the F-35.
                                      If anything, it would for PCA & F/A-XX to the left. It would not affect the F-35 buy at all.

                                      He added that Japan would love a jet that can fire anti-ship missiles, but that the F-35 is just too small to hold them inside its stealthy weapons bays.
                                      Guess he has never heard of JSOW or JSM. The F-22's bay is smaller than the F-35's. Does he think that the F-22/35 hybrid will mount LRASM sized missiles internally? Besides, LRASM has the range to be fired from well below the horizon so wing-mounted AShMs will not be an issue.

                                      In the end, the US Air Force would end up in a very difficult position — having to live with Japan getting a better fighter, or spending money earmarked for F-35s, which the US sees as the future of its force, on another aircraft it didn't come up with.
                                      Wrong. The F-35 is replacing the F-16/18 & Harrier. Like I said earlier, this is an issue for PCA et al to deal with.
                                      "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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                                        I doubt this aircraft will come to fruition but all it would mean is an excellent opportunity for the USAF to buy new fighters to complement the limited number of F-22s and replace remaining F-15C/D while PCA is in the works. It shouldn't affect the F-35 buy at all although naturally some foolish politicians will probably try to make it an issue.

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                                          Guess he has never heard of JSOW or JSM. The F-22's bay is smaller than the F-35's. Does he think that the F-22/35 hybrid will mount LRASM sized missiles internally? Besides, LRASM has the range to be fired from well below the horizon so wing-mounted AShMs will not be an issue.
                                          JSOW and NSM are too light to be very efficient vs large ships. And will not happen before (planned) F4

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