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  • TomcatViP
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    You obviously lack a fair share of it or don't care much at the meanings of your sentences. By 2050, the picture we get from air forces around the world tells us that there will be no room for an "in service, generations behind" aircraft. Then that some will still be around flying at that date, yes and we fan wiill be happy of that.
    Heck the Schlepp was still around in the 90's !

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  • OPIT
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    My dear TomcatViP, what's insulting is to present a flawed logic as an humble logic. If it's okay to fly F-15 or F-16 for decades, then it's okay for others to envision the same thing.

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  • eagle
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    Rafale has been in production for what, 20 years now? With NGF deliveries starting in 2035 at the earliest, it's a safe bet to say it won't have replaced all jets in the inventory before 2050. 2060 for the last NGF delivery and last Rafale out of service for a production run of 25 years is not unreasonable.

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  • TomcatViP
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    F-15 relevance is highly discussed nowadays... Why shouldn't we be critical about Raf relevance 30 years from now!!! ? Does humble logic sounds insulting now?
    Last edited by TomcatViP; 7th February 2019, 23:54.

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  • BlackArcher
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    Why is that funny? Its absolutely normal for a fighter to serve 30 years in active service. Some may last even longer, depending on the upgrades that will be available.

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  • TomcatViP
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    "Rafale will still be in service in 2050" said Dassault CEO Trapier...
    At least, Mr Trapier won't...

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  • eagle1
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    Ceremony to launch the F4 standard development. If you understand French you will note the emphasis of the technological leap this standard brings from the French Mindef :


    Last edited by eagle1; 7th February 2019, 21:05.

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  • TomcatViP
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    Mind you: the soundtrack is a torture. You might want to tune down your speakers....

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  • eagle1
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    Nice flying over La Runion Island in the south indian ocean by current rafale solo diplay pilot. (who grew on this Island)

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  • TomcatViP
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    The trees?!! Is this at Martignas?!

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  • eagle1
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    Nice camo :



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  • eagle1
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    first rafale delivered to Quatar :

    http://www.lefigaro.fr/societes/2019...e-au-qatar.php

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  • halloweene
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    Was tested at around 2300/2400K at DGA propulseurs 2 years ago. New PEA (Turenne 2) signed today.
    Last edited by halloweene; 7th February 2019, 17:38.

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  • TomcatViP
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    [...] la ministre [de la Defense] en aussi profit pour annoncer la notification, Safran, du programme dtudes amont Turenne 2 qui, dune valeur de plus de 100 millions deuros, portera sur la mise au point de nouvelles turbines hautes pressions beaucoup rsistantes la chaleur, afin de donner, par exemple plus de puissance aux moteurs du Rafale. Ces tudes doivent nous permettre de gagner 150 degrs dici 2025 , a-t-elle prcis.
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    MoD also took the opportunity to announce the notification to Safran, of the early study program "Turenne 2"worth more than 100 million euros, which will focus on the development of new high pressures turbines more resistant to heat, to give more power to the engines of the Rafale. These studies "should allow us to gain 150 [C] degrees by 2025," she said
    Source:
    Opex360.com.

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  • eagle
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    How many MICA IR, MICA EM, and Meteors can the Rafale be fitted with? I don't think I've ever seen the forward underfuselage pylons fitted or the centerline pylon(s) fitted with anything but an external fuel tank
    It seems the French don't have a requirement for more than 6 AAMs.
    AAMs on the centerline are not cleared afaik, neither are AAMs on innermost wing pylons. That means 8 AAMs is the maximum at the moment, if you use the outer underwing pylons, which the French don't. Like so: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HA0sLZfRD...ike-GBU-24.png
    2 Meteors can be carried under the fuselage, 2 more under the wings where the GBU-24s are in the above pic, but again the French only seem to use the 2 underfuselage stations.

    The centerline is being used for other stuff than fuel quite often. Esp. on Rafale M.
    Exocet: http://www.malaysiandefence.com/wp-c.../08/exocet.jpg
    Reco NG: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__A2VG2LiIP...r-rafale-1.jpg
    GBU-24: http://www.portail-aviation.com/wp-c...nde%CC%812.jpg
    Scalp: https://www.forcesdz.com/images/ext/...0d2d973cbca5ea
    Refuelling pod: http://tpe-rafale.e-monsite.com/medi...per-nounou.jpg
    ASMP: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4e/77...5c17762d45.jpg

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  • eagle1
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    Originally posted by PhantomII View Post
    How many MICA IR, MICA EM, and Meteors can the Rafale be fitted with? I don't think I've ever seen the forward underfuselage pylons fitted or the centerline pylon(s) fitted with anything but an external fuel tank
    Only rafale A :

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  • Kovy
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    https://rafalenews.blogspot.com/p/blog-page.html

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  • PhantomII
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    How many MICA IR, MICA EM, and Meteors can the Rafale be fitted with? I don't think I've ever seen the forward underfuselage pylons fitted or the centerline pylon(s) fitted with anything but an external fuel tank

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  • TomcatViP
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    The twin Gun Pod is sadly only for the Taiwanese M2K* (and as an extra treat, it is fitted with a pair of modern ADEN canon - see a post I made in the M2k thread) .

    *pic of a Taiwanese airframe
    Last edited by TomcatViP; 5th February 2019, 01:59.

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  • halloweene
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    Originally posted by Cream View Post
    The Meteor is cleared since 2017 and i think the delivery to FAF started in 2018.

    http://www.defens-aero.com/2017/04/m...re-rafale.html

    I never see the rockets pod under a Rafale but that don't mean FAF don't have it. FAF had some gun pod i see it on a M2000 but never in operation on a Rafale.
    Don't know if the big Hammer was already used..

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    There is no rocket pod under RAfale atm. Under M2K you may find a large number laucher of laser guided lifgtweight bombs. (cant rmember the name, sorry). That said, a pod for induction launched rockests is in the pipes.
    Last edited by halloweene; 4th February 2019, 18:13.

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