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    Chesapeake 2018:
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      Sorry to hear that Hallow.

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        https://actu.fr/occitanie/toulouse_3..._16574070.html

        Dassault & Airbus sign agreement to develop next gen fighter jet

        Entry in service 2035-2040.

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          Sorry to hear that Hallow.
          TY. Hard for someone who loves 3D. However i can still troll ppl here . Without any real animosity!

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            https://actu.fr/occitanie/toulouse_3..._16574070.html

            Dassault & Airbus sign agreement to develop next gen fighter jet

            Entry in service 2035-2040.
            from what I've read, the idea being to develop not only a fighter but a fully integrated combat system, that includes fighters but also big assets. the first would be under Dassault's leadership as it is what Dassault does best, while the big ones (network nodes and command aircraft) will be for Airbus as they have the better knowhow to build and integrate the big aircraft.. the making of engines, electronics and so on would be spread among specialists in partner countries...

            http://www.paxaquitania.fr/2018/04/d...france-et.html

            from the announcement, if they manage to do it really in an efficient manner, that would be an (unbelievably for europeans, if we're to judge from previous experiences) intelligent way to make it.. I have to wonder how long before some politician manages to step in and messes something
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              USNI take on French contingent in Oceana

              During operations aboard George H.W. Bush in May, McCall said, the plan is for the French personnel to seamlessly join regular carrier operations, which includes flying with U.S. aircraft and performing flight deck duties with their U.S. counterparts.
              “They’re actually going to plug and play into our airwing like they’re a U.S. squadron,” McCall said. “They’re going to integrate into our air plans and our methodologies out aboard the ship. They’re going land like we land, they’re going to come aboard the ship like we do, they’re going fly the same cycle times we do.”
              [...]
              “The French are great partners. We see them in the skies, we operate alongside them, but we don’t really interact with them. Here we’re actually getting the chance to talk, and to brief, and plan for a flight,” Chlan said.
              “I’ve been in the Navy for 18 years and I’ve never had a chance to do something like this.”
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              USNI.org

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                VFA N???

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                  Rafale and French Hawkeyes on the Bush for carrier calification - Photo album

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                  180510-N-UV609-0540 ATLANTIC OCEAN (May 10, 2018) A Rafale Marine attached to squadron 17F of the French navy lands on the flight deck of the aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77).
                  “It’s kind of funny,” said Lt. Brandon Rodgers, an F/A-18 Super Hornet pilot. “Any fighter pilot from any country, it seems, is the same. We’re a little bit full of ourselves, but we love flying. That’s the commonality between all of us — getting together, talking about fighting, that’s where we all have that common bond. It’s something kind of special.”
                  That bond can exist even when technology creates a divide. Chief Petty Officer Philip Mina helps maintain the Hornet and Super Hornet. It uses a different engine than the Rafale.
                  But if a pilot is a pilot ...
                  “An engine is an engine,” he said, “and we’re mechs. So if they’d come down, we’d be more than happy to help.”
                  And if a Rafale engine were to suddenly be available for inspection, that would be awesome. Expect Mina and his men to try poking around in it.
                  “Any engine that comes our way that we haven’t worked on, we get kind of interested,” he said. “Old or new, if you haven’t seen it yet, you still want to look at it. We’re wrench monkeys. We just want to see what’s going on.”
                  Maybe that’s why a French flight officer like Stephane — French policy requires personnel to give only first names — can’t say enough about U.S.Navy hospitality. He’s the commander of an E2-C Hawkeye squadron. The E2-C is an American-made early-warning aircraft, which the French fly and have tweaked a bit for their purposes.
                  Earlier last week, the French E2-C was briefly out of commission, so a French pilot flew with American crew.
                  “That’s great,” he said. “That’s the first time in training we’ve used that. I’ve had wonderful support from the squadron, from the U.S. Navy in general. Believe me. It’s not just because you are Americans (that) I say that. It’s true.”
                  And about the Rafale as seen by USN pilots:

                  The Rafale [...] is super-fast.
                  “When it’s light, it can pretty much stand on its tail and go straight up,” he said. “When you’re on deck and you see them go straight up — all right, I guess I can’t do that with you.”
                  Source:
                  DailyPress.com



                  VFA 17F?
                  Last edited by TomcatViP; 13th May 2018, 02:55.

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                    More by USNI.org:


                    “We had to do a little bit of integration on just on how our guys handle their aircraft on the deck, how we taxi them around, how we control them, some of the launch procures on the catapult,” Bailey said. “Aside from that it’s just like having just another US squadron on board.”
                    For example, Rafale fighters sit on deck at a slight angle, causing their engines to point down toward the deck. This created potential hazard for U.S. personnel working on the flight deck, said Cmdr. Marc. U.S. crews are used to being able to simply duck under the exhaust nozzles when F/A-18F Super Hornets and EA-18G Growlers are maneuvered around the deck because these jets sit flat on the flight deck and their engines point straight back.
                    Some other differences between the Rafale and the Super Hornet have led to a slightly different pace of movement on the flight deck during aircraft launches, Lt. Cmdr. Winston Cotterell, Bush‘s aircraft handling officer, told reporters.
                    First, he said, the French aircrew tend to want to do all maintenance in the hangar bay instead of up on the flight deck, where U.S. crews conduct some smaller maintenance activities.
                    “I’ve run a lot of elevators just for those aircraft,” Cotterell joked, but said that ultimately the French have similar maintenance procedures and prioritize maintenance and readiness of the aircraft, even if they prefer to conduct the work inside the ship.
                    Additionally, Cotterell said, the flight deck crews have to exchange the spreaders – the clip inside the catapult system that connects to the aircraft – between launching the Rafales and the Super Hornets or Growlers.
                    “The Rafale takes a different type of spreader that needs to go on our catapults to make them launch off the bow. The (U.S. and French) E-2s are the same, so that’s pretty much seamless, but the Rafales take a little bit of time … maybe a few minutes, a minute or two here and there,” the handler said. After a few days of integrated air wing operations at sea, he said the deck crew has been able to swap the spreaders in about a minute during the daytime, though at night in the extreme dark it takes several minutes to ensure personnel are safe and to ensure the spreaders are clipped in tightly enough to securely launch the next aircraft.
                    Between having to swap the spreaders and some French procedures, such as not allowing hot aircraft to be towed on the flight deck, Cotterell said it takes a few more minutes to conduct a full launch cycle, but he said he and his crew are learning a lot and enjoying the experience of working with their French counterparts.

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                      Nice to read the quote about Rafale leaving the SH standing on take off (relatively).

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                        Most interesting part will be retex abou interoperability. Specially bteween these unit that are used to be frontline...

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                          Cmdr. Patrick Baker, executive officer of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 213, told reporters that his F/A-18F Super Hornet squadron had seen almost seamless operations with the French Rafales and Hawkeyes onboard. One of the things Ive taken away from this is, if there ever is an opportunity or a situation that develops, the French do bring a unique, complementary capability to a U.S. carrier air wing that could definitely assist us in strengthening our regional and our maritime capability.


                          Source:
                          USNI.org

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                            I notice it says 'TOMCATTERS' on the fuel tank under than F-18E.

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                              I notice it says 'TOMCATTERS' on the fuel tank under than F-18E.
                              VF-31. They had the name Tomcatters before the F-14.

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                                Rafale and Spad Xiii. 100 years of mil aviation. Enjoy!

                                https://twitter.com/EliSaCaffin/stat...99820806410243

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                                  Sorry I can't enjoy a vertical video, whatever the content is
                                  The Rafale international forum :
                                  http://rafale.freeforums.org/

                                  Rafale news blog :
                                  http://rafalenews.blogspot.com/

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                                    Still funny to see SPAD flying faster than RAfale. Would trigger some heart attacks on F16.net (e.G. that portuguese kid...)

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                                      Joint US/French Operation:

                                      The relationships being built during this exercise will matter when it comes time to operate together in combat conditions,” said Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson while onboard the Bush on May 14 with his French counterpart, Adm. Christophe Prazuck.
                                      “So we’re proud to be operating side-by-side with our French allies as we deepen our interoperability.
                                      “As described in the National Defense Strategy, we’ll need combined training like this to become habitual so that we are prepared to compete and win in this new era of great power competition.”
                                      There could be more international training and experimentation going on off the U.S. East Coast in September, when the newest British aircraft carrier, the HMS Queen Elizabeth expected to arrive to conduct her first F-35B Joint Strike Fighter VTOL operations, U.S. Navy sources tell Navy Times
                                      Imagine if we had some F-35B too on a modernized class of Garibaldi carrier to protect the outremer territories and contribute to mass effect in near peer situation by embarking on RN or USMC bigger carrier.

                                      Source:
                                      Navy Times.com
                                      Last edited by TomcatViP; 21st May 2018, 13:35.

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                                        I never said tat a small amount of F-35 would not be a good idea for France.

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                                          It wouldn't escape any attentive reader that this had to be written on Pentecost day

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