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  • halloweene
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    #21
    Rafale for Peru? doubtful, but...

    https://es.dfns.net/2017/06/07/es-el...erea-del-peru/

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    • eagle1
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      #22
      France's Dassault to bring in largest defence FDI via Rafale JV with Reliance Defence

      NEW DELHI: The largest defence sector foreign direct investment (FDI) is coming soon via French aircraft manufacturer Dassault.

      The investment is part of Dassaults obligations on Make in India commitments under the Rafale fighter jet deal. These commitments require the French company to manufacture a significant part of the aircraft in India.

      The investment, intended for manufacturing of aircraft components for global markets, will come into the Dassault-Reliance Aerospace Limited (DRAL) joint venture set up to meet offset obligations for the Rs 58,000-crore deal. The first tranche of FDI, around Rs 200 crore, is likely to come in by July.

      Dassault will emerge as a single largest FDI investor in the defence sector. It will far exceed all FDI till date in the defence sector in India. The cumulative FDI in the defence sector in India till date is of the order of $6 million, Rajesh K Dhingra, president, Reliance Defence & Aerospace, told ET.

      The JV will be used for creating infrastructure at the Mihan (Nagpur) facility, with a ground breaking ceremony planned for the end of July. Teams from the French company have visited the site at least four times in the past three months to finalise project plans. Groundbreaking is planned in July and we expect the first article to roll out in the first quarter of 2018. Currently, first batch of our team is undergoing training at Dassault facilities in France, Dhingra added.

      Government clearances would not be required for the inflow as it will be under the automatic route for FDI given that Reliance Defence holds 51% of the JV.

      Reliance Defence is bullish on the aviation and naval sectors and is targeting potential contracts worth over `2 lakh crore that are expected to come up for bidding in the next 24 months. This includes new submarines and amphibious ships for the navy, over 260 single and twin-engine fighters and a variety of helicopters needed by the three armed forces.

      The plan is to set up a 100-acre facility that will integrate a supply chain for the Rafale fighter jet in India. DRAL has announced that the first phase of the project will generate more than 700 highly-skilled direct jobs and 2,800 indirect jobs.
      http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/59060183.cms

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      • eagle1
        Rank 5 Registered User

        #23
        They seem pretty confident to clinch new deals with the rafale apparently...

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        • halloweene
          Rank 5 Registered User

          #24
          More or less exact...

          https://ton.twitter.com/i/ton/data/d...u63s.jpg:large

          cant load it as image

          https://ton.twitter.com/i/ton/data/d...2/CwTIu63s.jpg
          Last edited by halloweene; 19th June 2017, 21:54.

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          • SpudmanWP
            Rank 5 Registered User

            #25
            That's why I use imgur
            "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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            • halloweene
              Rank 5 Registered User

              #26
              Very itersting image, makes me crazy...

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              • SpudmanWP
                Rank 5 Registered User

                #27
                Still can't see anything and both links are broken
                "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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                • halloweene
                  Rank 5 Registered User

                  #28
                  sorry about that. It is a compilation of F3R and F4 stds. As soon as i have time i'll do it. There was a recent vey interesting interview of program head at DGA. F4 is a beast. It is not broken link, it is protected by tweeter.

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                  • Loke
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                    #29
                    Looking forward to it; thanks H!

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                    • halloweene
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                      #30

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                      • Sintra
                        Rank 5 Registered User

                        #31
                        Thanks Hallo

                        One question, the F4 is going to field "THE" IFDL (more or less something based on what the Raptor uses) or "a" IFDL? And if its this last one (and i supose that it is), will it be using common standards to the rest of NATO (the ones that are being discussed now)?
                        Last edited by Sintra; 20th June 2017, 21:18.
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                        • halloweene
                          Rank 5 Registered User

                          #32
                          "A" IFDL afaik. ad yes if possible common standards based. Understand this is a rough program (to be fielded in 2023-5 timeframe). Should be possible with software defined radios ("contact" program part 2 : air assets) . The photo is therefore general idea, but was validated to me as very probalbe by a Istres Dassault test pilot.
                          Last edited by halloweene; 20th June 2017, 21:29.

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                          • Sintra
                            Rank 5 Registered User

                            #33
                            Thanks again Hallo
                            sigpic

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                            • SpudmanWP
                              Rank 5 Registered User

                              #34
                              "The" IFDL in the F-22 is classified so no, it's not the same.

                              Also, the above pic says LPI but not "directional".
                              "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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                              • Kovy
                                Rank 5 Registered User

                                #35
                                As confirmed by Air Fan magazine, it will be directionnal.

                                There are a lot of new interesting features in this F4 standard.
                                There is also the development of the AASL, a 100 Kg/100 Km multi sensors A2G weapon which could be included in the F4. The MBDA smartglider is apparently a good candidate for that job:



                                And also the THALES BAT-120 LG a 35 kG class LGB that can be carried in bundle of 3 on light hardpoints





                                It is also worth noting that 73 new Rafale F4 will be delivered to the French forces from 2021
                                Last edited by Kovy; 20th June 2017, 23:00.
                                The Rafale international forum :
                                http://rafale.freeforums.org/

                                Rafale news blog :
                                http://rafalenews.blogspot.com/

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                                • SpudmanWP
                                  Rank 5 Registered User

                                  #36
                                  Rafale needs to adopt the NUAI spec (NATO version of UAI).

                                  Also, that bomb looks like it's stackable beyond 3.
                                  "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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                                  • eagle
                                    Rank 5 Registered User

                                    #37
                                    It sure is: http://forum.keypublishing.com/showt...00-and-BAT-120
                                    How can less be more? It's impossible. More is more.
                                    Yngwie Malmsteen

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                                    • Loke
                                      Rank 5 Registered User

                                      #38
                                      Regarding F4: So the RBE2 AESA radar will switch to GaN?

                                      Overall the F4 looks very potent, in particular with the new weapons. The new directional datalink also sounds very interesting.

                                      The F4 will get very good SA. Anything on improved sensor fusion? It is important in order to fully exploit the data generated by the improved sensors.

                                      The Typhoon and SH are going to struggle to match the capabilities of the F4 Rafale... could this have an impact on the outcome of some competitions, in e.g. India?

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                                      • mrmalaya
                                        Generation 4.75+++

                                        #39
                                        I think to be honest, the F4 is Dassaults attempt at an F35- an aircraft designed after the original Rafale and Typhoon specifications. Interesting that RCS reduction is being looked at, given that it is not required (according to some on this forum).

                                        These new weapons look eminently suitable for the internal bay of FCAS don't they? suggests France is serious about supporting its highly capable Rafale fleet with a UCAV for stickier situations. probably better off putting resources into FCAS rather than trying to reduce the RCS of Rafale.
                                        Last edited by mrmalaya; 21st June 2017, 10:58.

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                                        • TooCool_12f
                                          Rank 5 Registered User

                                          #40
                                          RCS reduction is not "required" but, as for any fighter, is always desirable... that is why they speak about "potential RCS reduction".. basically, it is "once we've financed and done stuff that we need, we'll see about stuff that might be nice to have..."

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