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  • moon_light
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    • May 2012
    • 999

    Originally posted by panzerfeist1 View Post
    I am just trying to figure out why there are many users here coming up with as much excuses under the sun as possible.
    Then you should join the flat earth society. If many users disagree with you, that must mean they conspired against you.

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    • Yama
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Feb 2012
      • 622

      GaN transistors have been commercially available in US for like 15 years at least, yet F-35 is produced using only GaAs technology, ditto for Super Hornet etc.

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      • djcross
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        • Jan 2000
        • 5404

        The technology baselines for F-35 and Super Hornet were frozen when the development contracts were signed, in 2003 and 1992 respectively. Bean counters rule the American procurement system and no improvements are allowed unless they are justified by a business case with a short payback period. This means the only way to replace GaAs with GaN is when GaAs is no longer available from the supply chain and a GaN system must be used. Unfortunately, GaAs is still available and Diminishing Manufacturing Sources tipping point has not yet been reached. "Better is the enemy of good enough".

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        • SpudmanWP
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Jan 2009
          • 5237

          GaNs will come to the F-35 in a Tech Refresh if and when there is shown to be a substantial benefit to doing so and that the cost difference will not bee too great.
          "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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          • topspeed
            Get on uppah !
            • Jan 2009
            • 2643

            Originally posted by eagle View Post

            No it can't.
            It's 7+2 at the moment (once testing is done of course).
            Using twin launchers this could be increased to 11+2 but twin launchers are not a thing at the moment.
            Okay !
            If it looks good, it will fly good !
            -Bill Lear & Marcel Dassault


            http://max3fan.blogspot.com/

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            • Yama
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Feb 2012
              • 622

              So as was somewhat expected, Boeing offer for Finland does contain Growlers, and Boeing now secured export permit for them:
              U.S. Government Approves Release of Boeing EA-18G Growler to Finland

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              • TomcatViP
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Nov 2011
                • 5959

                Growler in EU would be a good for sure.

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                • topspeed
                  Get on uppah !
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2643

                  How about 40 TX trainers and 40 Gripens....only 2.1 billion ??
                  If it looks good, it will fly good !
                  -Bill Lear & Marcel Dassault


                  http://max3fan.blogspot.com/

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                  • Sanem
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 587

                    Finland should get together with Switzerland and order 100 UTAP-22s at just $2 million each. They can launch and recover from pretty much any location, meaning they'd be next to impossible to take out in a surprise attack.

                    After fighting starts they can be launched from forward operating bases, be it a small bunker, a truck or a small ship, and then land at a different location for recovery. This forward location also makes them great for launching surprise attacks of their own against enemy forces, be it in the air (a UTAP could carry 2 Sidewinder plus 6 Stinger missiles), ground or sea, as well as being great for ISR, ECM and SEAD missions.

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                    • TooCool_12f
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 3302

                      Originally posted by Sanem View Post
                      Finland should get together with Switzerland and order 100 UTAP-22s at just $2 million each. They can launch and recover from pretty much any location, meaning they'd be next to impossible to take out in a surprise attack.

                      After fighting starts they can be launched from forward operating bases, be it a small bunker, a truck or a small ship, and then land at a different location for recovery. This forward location also makes them great for launching surprise attacks of their own against enemy forces, be it in the air (a UTAP could carry 2 Sidewinder plus 6 Stinger missiles), ground or sea, as well as being great for ISR, ECM and SEAD missions.
                      same question as for switzerland's thread: how do you do your main job, which consists of air policing and assistance with it?

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                      • Sanem
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 587

                        Originally posted by TooCool_12f View Post

                        same question as for switzerland's thread: how do you do your main job, which consists of air policing and assistance with it?
                        as I replied there: with much greater effectiveness, and at a fraction of the cost

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                        • TooCool_12f
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 3302

                          Originally posted by Sanem View Post

                          as I replied there: with much greater effectiveness, and at a fraction of the cost
                          and I answered it as well... it doesn't work that way

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