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  • haavarla
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Dec 2008
    • 6579

    #21
    Originally posted by MSphere View Post
    So what?
    I don't know about salleries in Russians AF.
    But if this would have been in Norway, the difference with paying one vs two crew would be quite telling.

    Besides, we are talking flight cost per hour on average. That would be with training or re-training cost for new systems.
    Last edited by haavarla; 10th February 2017, 17:47.
    Thanks

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    • QuantumFX
      What?
      • Dec 2008
      • 1791

      #22
      Su-35 unless the MiG-35 price is considerably lower.

      By the way, can the MiG-35 supercruise?

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      • MSphere
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 8983

        #23
        A good question.. Never heard of it..

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        • paralay
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Aug 2005
          • 1376

          #24
          Originally posted by QuantumFX View Post
          By the way, can the MiG-35 supercruise?
          Naturally no. Maximum speed was lower, what here supersonic cruising!

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          • TR1
            TR1
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            • Oct 2010
            • 9785

            #25
            Originally posted by paralay View Post
            Changed the principle of service, the Su-30 - "service under the rules of" (обслуживание по регламенту), Su-35s and MiG-35 - "condition maintenance" (обслуживание по техническому состоянию), perhaps this is the reason
            Just to translate a little better (no offense Paralay), what he is referring is real-time health monitoring, versus fixed schedule of maintenance. The same thing that brought the MiG-29SMT 40% cheaper flight hours.

            However, I suspect you are referring to Su-30M2 (or earlier) Paralay? Not Su-30SM surely.
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            • TR1
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              • Oct 2010
              • 9785

              #26
              Originally posted by QuantumFX View Post
              Su-35 unless the MiG-35 price is considerably lower.

              By the way, can the MiG-35 supercruise?
              MiG-35 as of today should have barely different flight performance than MiG-29M2 family.
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              • Y-20 Bacon
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 2176

                #27
                Originally posted by paralay View Post
                What is the problem? ask me
                so how did you come up with these numbers?
                attack ground targets: Su-30MKM (1.09), the Su-35S (1.53), the MiG-35 (1.27)
                Self-Defense: Su-30MKM (0.62), the Su-35S (0.81), the MiG-35 (0.77)

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                • TomcatViP
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 5912

                  #28
                  Theoretically the Mig35 with its new wing that has variable LE TE flaps should supercruise (patent). Then I don't know how much of that potential they effectively reached

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                  • paralay
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 1376

                    #29
                    Originally posted by Y-20 Bacon View Post
                    so how did you come up with these numbers?
                    http://www.paralay.com/paralay_tab.xls

                    line 194 - 261
                    Characteristics of the aircraft compared to the Su-27 and Su-24

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                    • paralay
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 1376

                      #30
                      Originally posted by TR1 View Post
                      Just to translate a little better (no offense Paralay), what he is referring is real-time health monitoring, versus fixed schedule of maintenance. The same thing that brought the MiG-29SMT 40% cheaper flight hours.
                      Ok

                      Originally posted by TR1 View Post
                      However, I suspect you are referring to Su-30M2 (or earlier) Paralay? Not Su-30SM surely.
                      I was referring to the Su-30MKM

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