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    Tail wags dog.
    Juris praecepta sunt haec: honeste vivere, alterum non laedere, suum cuique tribuere.
    Justinian

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      F-35 data stolen in Australia?

      http://www.zdnet.com/article/secret-...ntractor-hack/

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        bio best F-35 photo i've seen. The ird looks nearly nice!

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          Who is Israel?

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            Israel would need to sign-off on any F-35 for UAE deal.
            I would be surprized Israel is mentioned.
            UAE is funding Egypt , Saudis funding Sudan, Qatar funding Turkey. Everyone is diversifying. US certainly needs those exports.

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              Part of the deal with Iran, Israel, and the F-35s is that for the foreseeable future, no other ME country gets the F-35 apart from Israel.
              "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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                that deal is irrelevant as far as other Middleast countries are concerned.
                Egypt/Saudi/UAE will simply not tolerate Isreal or Turkey getting more advanced weopons or getting any importance.
                Egypt was invited to BRICS summit in China. Putin spend 4 days with Saudi King. they know exactly the importance of Arab world. start with reserve currrency.

                F-35 is built with imported components and designed for higher production rates to keep cost down. those variables will be tested just like F-22 production in previous economic cycle.

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                  To convince Israel and its supporters in Congress that the White House truly "has its back" with respect to threats posed by Iran, US President Barack Obama and top Cabinet officials have repeatedly flagged the fact that Israel is the exclusive regional recipient of the F-35, America's premier stealth strike fighter.

                  "Indeed, Israel is the only nation in the Middle East to which the United States has sold this fifth-generation aircraft," Obama wrote in a letter last month to Rep. Jerold Nadler, a New York democrat representing the largest Jewish district in the country.

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                  Beyond billions of dollars in additional grant aid and a menu of military modernization needs, experts here said Netanyahu should squeeze out definitive assurances that Israel will remain the exclusive regional operator of the F-35 for years to come.

                  How long?

                  "Forever," quipped retired Maj. Gen. Amos Gilad, the Israeli Defense Ministry's longtime director of policy and political-military affairs who leads QME-related talks with the Pentagon and State Department.

                  In a Sept. 7 exchange following a conference address here, Gilad refused to say whether a Mideast moratorium on F-35 exports will be an agenda item in bilateral talks on bolstering Israel's QME. "They said officially that they won't sell to anybody [in the region] but Israel," Gilad told Defense News.
                  https://www.defensenews.com/air/2015...-dibs-on-f-35/
                  "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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                    Here is more information about the F-35 hack in Australia, from the BBC News Channel.

                    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-41590614

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                      Originally posted by ClanWarrior View Post
                      Here is more information about the F-35 hack in Australia, from the BBC News Channel.

                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-41590614
                      Commercial data only.

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                        F-35A arrives at Eielson for testing


                        An F-35A Lightning II landed at Eielson AFB Oct 12 to participate in testing several aspects of the fifth-generation fighter aircraft.

                        This test’s purpose has two major outcomes: certifying the Norwegian drag-chute and demonstrating that the entire fleet of F-35As are capable of landing at a runway condition reading (RCR) of 7.

                        The RCR scale is based on how wet and dry each runway is. A RCR 23 is considered a dry runway while an RCR 5 is compared to landing on ice.

                        “The F-35A is currently certified to land at an RCR of 12,” said Capt. Daniel Campbell, the 354th Fighter Wing F-35 PIO director of mission support. “This test is important to the base because it will help certify the F-35A to operate at an RCR of 7. The 354th Civil Engineer Squadron and 354th Operations Support Squadron try to keep our runway at an RCR of 12 or better during the harsh winters, but often are below that. We need the lower RCR certification to ensure the F-35A can operate throughout our winters.”

                        In April 2016, it was officially announced the base was scheduled to receive two squadrons of F-35As as well as approximately 3,500 Airmen, contractors and their families. Construction began in early 2017 for projects regarding the F-35As arrival.

                        According to Kevin Blanchard, the 354th FW F-35 PIO director, in addition to the F-35 flight simulator that was started in March 2017, a contract for a propulsion maintenance hangar, addition for the maintenance field training detachment, and several other projects have been awarded to various companies.

                        Eielson will continue to prepare for the 2020 arrival of the F-35As while still completing the primary mission of prepare, deploy and enable. As always, the Icemen Team will remain “Ready to go at 50 below!”
                        Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                          i do not know this site so i donnot endorse. However, it seems that a F-35 is grounded either due to bird strike or SA-5

                          https://southfront.org/israel-hiding...ssile-reports/

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                            i do not know this site so i donnot endorse. However, it seems that a F-35 is grounded either due to bird strike or SA-5

                            https://southfront.org/israel-hiding...ssile-reports/
                            It's a junk site. I saw that reported on twitter via "Southfront" too. Like the earlier reports of Israeli F-35's bombing S-300 sites in Syria, there is little chance that Israel is using their small F-35 fleet operationally yet, and even a lesser chance that an unrelated "bird strike" claim was really a missile hit.

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                              But we should let the usual suspects carry on with their anti-f-35 conspiracy theories.
                              Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                                Southfront

                                https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/south-front/

                                Nuff said.

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                                  U.S. Air Force's F-35A Lightning II scheduled for first operational deployment to Indo-Asia-Pacific


                                  Approximately 300 Airmen and 12 F-35A Lightning IIs from Hill Air Force Base, Utah’s 34th Fighter Squadron are set to deploy to Kadena Air Base, Japan for a six month rotation. The aircraft and supporting personnel are scheduled to arrive at Kadena in early November.

                                  This marks U.S. Pacific Command’s first operational tasking for the F-35A and builds upon the U.S. Air Force fifth-generation stealth fighter’s successful debut in the Indo-Asia-Pacific at the Seoul International Aerospace & Defense Exhibition (ADEX) earlier this month.

                                  “The F-35A gives the joint warfighter unprecedented global precision attack capability against current and emerging threats while complementing our air superiority fleet,” said Gen. Terrence J. O’Shaughnessy, Pacific Air Forces commander. “The airframe is ideally suited to meet our command’s obligations, and we look forward to integrating it into our training and operations.”

                                  The F-35A is being deployed under U.S. PACOM’s theater security package (TSP) program, which has been in operation since 2004. This long-planned deployment is designed to demonstrate the continuing U.S. commitment to stability and security in the region.

                                  While a first in-theater for the F-35A, the U.S. Marine Corps F-35B variant has been stationed at Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni, Japan since January, 2017.
                                  Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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                                    New hypoxia like symptoms at Luke http://aviationweek.com/defense/f-35...poxia-episodes
                                    Edit apparently not real hypoxia (see text)
                                    Last edited by halloweene; 26th October 2017, 16:02.

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                                      F-35s Hobbled by Parts Shortages, Slow Repairs, Audit Finds

                                      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rs-audit-finds

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                                        Despite the shortage of parts, the program is still proving better reliability than current goals.



                                        Does anyone else find it odd that Bloomburg does not link tot he actual report so that we can look at their source, in context?
                                        "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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                                          @Halloween:

                                          degrading readiness” because the fighter jets “were unable to fly about 22 percent of the time” from January through August for lack of needed parts.
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                                          And you didn't laugh?!!


                                          on another point, I found that one interesting (thanks):

                                          “When you look over the life-cycle” cost “of most of our programs, it’s about 70 percent on the sustainment side. So we need to get that right.”
                                          Last edited by TomcatViP; 26th October 2017, 16:30.

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