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  • KGB
    KGB
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    #61
    Originally posted by SolarWarden View Post
    I wonder if the Pak-Fa will ever open its weapons bay doors. J-20 did it in flight and have yet to see the Pak-Fa do it while static.


    The J 20 is more of a "hey look, I have a 5th gen stealth fighter" project than the Pak Fa is.

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    • Blitzo
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      #62
      Originally posted by SolarWarden View Post
      But the russians love to stage a lot of their military for the populace. They have Pak-Fa doing all sorts of stuff in the air showing off to the world how great their aircraft is but they don't video its weapons bay opening? Come on now! That is not the russian way. I'm probably in the majority when i say, if there's no pics or video it didn't happen. I don't know what the big deal is...they are just weapons bay. Just one pic or short vid is all it takes.
      I'm more interested in the PAK FA's side weapons bay -- I can imagine how the ventral weapon bays open, but the side weapons bay for the SRAAMs are quite an interesting arrangement, I'm not sure where the hinges are or even the overall shape of the panels.

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      • Blitzo
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        #63
        Originally posted by KGB View Post


        The J 20 is more of a "hey look, I have a 5th gen stealth fighter" project than the Pak Fa is.
        I'm pretty sure that image of PAK FA a CGI? I think it was made by GaoShan a few years back...

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        • Trident
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          #64
          Originally posted by SolarWarden View Post
          I'm probably in the majority when i say, if there's no pics or video it didn't happen.
          So?
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          • Trident
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            #65
            Originally posted by Blitzo View Post
            I'm pretty sure that image of PAK FA a CGI? I think it was made by GaoShan a few years back...
            Correct. Let's stay on topic though.
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            • SolarWarden
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              #66
              Originally posted by Trident View Post
              So?
              So there.

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              • SolarWarden
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                #67
                Originally posted by KGB View Post


                The J 20 is more of a "hey look, I have a 5th gen stealth fighter" project than the Pak Fa is.

                Really? Are you serious? Why would you think i'd believe this CGI is real?

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                • KGB
                  KGB
                  Senior Member

                  #68
                  Originally posted by SolarWarden View Post
                  Really? Are you serious? Why would you think i'd believe this CGI is real?
                  was just providing a depiction.

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                  • Multirole
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by KGB View Post
                    The J 20 is more of a "hey look, I have a 5th gen stealth fighter" project than the Pak Fa is.
                    Is that why Russian fanboys are on this thread posting fake images?
                    pb::

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                    • Blitzo
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Multirole View Post
                      Is that why Russian fanboys are on this thread posting fake images?
                      Shh... let him have his moment.

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                      • FBW
                        FBW
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                        #71
                        Originally posted by QuantumFX View Post
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                        Impressed with the J-20 fit and finish. The design has come a long way. That, and frankly this is one bird that looks better in the air than on a runway.

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                        • Semi-Lobster
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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Rii View Post
                          Is the L-15's radome really any smaller than the J-7's? The radar was likely developed from that line of technology.
                          The J-7 shock cone is VERY small, smaller than the MiG-21s. Guizhou have had more experience with the J-7 airframe with their JJ-7 and JL-9 aircraft. Perhaps its related to the Q-5 somehow? Anyway it's a unique radar, which itself is odd since the PLAAF is moving towards a more uniform mass upgrade of capabilities rather than piecemeal upgrades. It was probably developed for export only. Which really brings me to another point, did the L-15Z/L-15AFT sale UNDERMINE a potential JF-17/FC-1 sale? Is the
                          $100 million sale ($16.6 million each with equipment, weapons, radar and crew training package) of the more combat oriented L-15AFT a future threat to sales of the JF-17 in 3rd world markets?

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                          • KGB
                            KGB
                            Senior Member

                            #73
                            i am a bit underwhelmed with the size of the armament bay considering the size of the jet. I thought they could have more room extending further toward the back of the body.

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                            • Y-20 Bacon
                              Senior Member

                              #74
                              where's the flares bay on the j-20? if it has one

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                              • QuantumFX
                                What?

                                #75
                                Originally posted by eagle View Post
                                Not necessarily. The deeper middle is where the ejector racks and the AAM fins go. Same as F-22.
                                Yup, you are correct. I forgot about the ejectors - http://media.defense.gov/2012/Apr/13...-OD451-001.JPG

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                                • QuantumFX
                                  What?

                                  #76
                                  Originally posted by KGB View Post
                                  i am a bit underwhelmed with the size of the armament bay considering the size of the jet. I thought they could have more room extending further toward the back of the body.
                                  I don't necessarily disagree with that. Looks like it will have similar limitations to the F-22 when it comes to A-to-G munitions.

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                                  • QuantumFX
                                    What?

                                    #77
                                    2x J-20 LRIP birds (on their way to Zhuhai Air Show?):






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                                    • QuantumFX
                                      What?

                                      #78
                                      And back at CAC, one J-20 is testing with what appear to be 4-drop tanks?

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                                      • Byoin
                                        Senior Member

                                        #79
                                        Originally posted by Y-20 Bacon View Post
                                        looks great and very influenced by Russian camo

                                        There is nothing special about that camouflage. Many people use it
                                        it was a Swedish invention. the US uses it, China, Russia. it is normal

                                        HOWEVER

                                        China is the first one to combine the use of stealth paint AND m90 camouflage.
                                        the US just uses stealth paint evenly and has not figured out how to apply it in more variations
                                        Russia is using conventional paint with RAM

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                                        • Byoin
                                          Senior Member

                                          #80
                                          Originally posted by KGB View Post


                                          The J 20 is more of a "hey look, I have a 5th gen stealth fighter" project than the Pak Fa is.
                                          that is a fake picture. but I don't blame you for being tricked as Chinese youth are very good at graphics

                                          the real Pak-fa bay can only carry two missiles.
                                          see the pak-fa bay test bed on the su-47. so most likely 4 missiles. 2 in each bay.

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