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  • KGB
    KGB
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    #41


    latest look

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    • Blitzo
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      #42
      I'd be more fond of a symmetrical splinter pattern than an asymmetrical one, but I'm glad they went for a subtle grey and black scheme.

      I wonder if they are just trialling it out or if this will become the new standard scheme.

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      • totoro
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        #43
        I'd put my money on an one-off specialized airshow scheme. Kind of like the specialized paintwork for the PLA parades. I don't expect to see it in actual combat units.

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        • Blitzo
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          #44
          Originally posted by totoro View Post
          I'd put my money on an one-off specialized airshow scheme. Kind of like the specialized paintwork for the PLA parades. I don't expect to see it in actual combat units.
          Maybe, that said I don't think we've ever seen custom paint schemes for aircraft during parades before, only for land/any equipment.

          I think they might just be trialling it.

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          • Byoin
            Senior Member

            #45
            Originally posted by Blitzo View Post
            I'd be more fond of a symmetrical splinter pattern than an asymmetrical one, but I'm glad they went for a subtle grey and black scheme.

            I wonder if they are just trialling it out or if this will become the new standard scheme.
            those dont exist, it is supposed to be asymmetrical to break up lines. this is camouflage, not a painting

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            • Y-20 Bacon
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              #46
              Originally posted by KGB View Post


              latest look
              looks great and very influenced by Russian camo

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              • QuantumFX
                What?

                #47
                Getting ready for Zhuhai 2016:

                Notice the weapons-bay design. Its deeper in the middle. Likely for larger A-to-G munitions.















                Last edited by QuantumFX; 18th October 2016, 04:14. Reason: Removed extra links

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                • QuantumFX
                  What?

                  #48
                  Larger size versions of splinter camo and weapons-bay opening:

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                  • KGB
                    KGB
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Y-20 Bacon View Post
                    looks great and very influenced by Russian camo

                    [img]https://theaviationist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/su_35mg]
                    You said it I thought more so close to the t50

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                    • Lt Anderson
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                      #50
                      The serial production J-20 looks really great!
                      @ QuantumFX : thanks for the hirez pics.
                      Last edited by Lt Anderson; 18th October 2016, 08:33.

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                      • QuantumFX
                        What?

                        #51
                        Posted by by78 @ SDF: Link

                        PS: The J-10B/C might make an appearance at Zhuhai as well. Love the see the J-10B perform with the AL-31FN Series 3 which has 1000 kgf more thrust than the original AL-31FN.

                        Large size: https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5712/3...1ba53bd9_o.jpg

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                        • noble
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                          #52
                          So the front fuselage and canards must generate a lot of lift? Its wings are way back than normal.

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                          • obligatory
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                            #53
                            Originally posted by noble View Post
                            So the front fuselage and canards must generate a lot of lift? Its wings are way back than normal.
                            yeah, i'm not fond of that part either

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                            • KGB
                              KGB
                              Senior Member

                              #54
                              Originally posted by Lt Anderson View Post
                              The serial production J-20 looks really great!
                              @ QuantumFX : thanks for the hirez pics.
                              I still think the Chinese are tricking everyone into believing that the jet is ready for mass production and commissioning. They will probably make a few copies and fly them around a bit and claim that its in service. While they still do a couple years of leg work behind the scenes

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                              • eagle
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                                #55
                                Originally posted by QuantumFX View Post
                                Getting ready for Zhuhai 2016:

                                Notice the weapons-bay design. Its deeper in the middle. Likely for larger A-to-G munitions.
                                Not necessarily. The deeper middle is where the ejector racks and the AAM fins go. Same as F-22.
                                How can less be more? It's impossible. More is more.
                                Yngwie Malmsteen

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                                • SolarWarden
                                  Rank 5 Registered User

                                  #56
                                  I wonder if the Pak-Fa will ever open its weapons bay doors. J-20 did it in flight and have yet to see the Pak-Fa do it while static.

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                                  • Trident
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                                    #57
                                    IIRC it flew with open bays as far back as 2014 (from when that 'performance achieved to date' slide dates). Also it reportedly launched its first missile this year - just because we didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

                                    In any case, the work done on the modified Su-47 with its PAK-FA bay mock-up probably meant that there was no need to rush such tests.
                                    sigpic

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                                    • Alpha Bravo
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                                      #58
                                      What's the fairing next to the Luneberg lens on the underside fuselage?

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                                      • SolarWarden
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                                        #59
                                        Originally posted by Trident View Post
                                        IIRC it flew with open bays as far back as 2014 (from when that 'performance achieved to date' slide dates). Also it reportedly launched its first missile this year - just because we didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

                                        In any case, the work done on the modified Su-47 with its PAK-FA bay mock-up probably meant that there was no need to rush such tests.
                                        But the russians love to stage a lot of their military for the populace. They have Pak-Fa doing all sorts of stuff in the air showing off to the world how great their aircraft is but they don't video its weapons bay opening? Come on now! That is not the russian way. I'm probably in the majority when i say, if there's no pics or video it didn't happen. I don't know what the big deal is...they are just weapons bay. Just one pic or short vid is all it takes.

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                                        • foxmulder_ms
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                                          #60
                                          Originally posted by Alpha Bravo View Post
                                          What's the fairing next to the Luneberg lens on the underside fuselage?
                                          Part of "EODAS" suit.

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