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  • Evastun
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    #21
    Originally posted by paralay View Post
    J-20 vs J-31 difference in the flight characteristics of the aircraft is negligible, 5 - 9%
    flight characteristics of what? how did you find 5-9%?

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    • Y-20 Bacon
      Senior Member

      #22
      Originally posted by Evastun View Post
      flight characteristics of what? how did you find 5-9%?
      its just paralay being parlayay

      he thinks the inside of the pakfa looks like this

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      • QuantumFX
        What?

        #23
        J-10B with WS-10B: Its unclear whether this is either #154 or #155. If it is not, then could mean WS-10B for J-10 is maturing.

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        • KGB
          KGB
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          #24
          Originally posted by Y-20 Bacon View Post
          its just paralay being parlayay

          he thinks the inside of the pakfa looks like this
          what are you implying here ?

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          • paralay
            Rank 5 Registered User

            #25
            Originally posted by Y-20 Bacon View Post
            its just paralay being parlayay
            This is one of the options, it was made in 2010. Catch up, we in 2016

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            • paralay
              Rank 5 Registered User

              #26
              Originally posted by Evastun View Post
              flight characteristics of what? how did you find 5-9%?
              http://www.paralay.com/paralay_tab.xls

              Line 194 - 261

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              • Y-20 Bacon
                Senior Member

                #27
                Originally posted by paralay View Post
                you'd be great friends with this guy

                http://forum.keypublishing.com/membe...21126-topspeed

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                • Y-20 Bacon
                  Senior Member

                  #28
                  Originally posted by KGB View Post
                  what are you implying here ?
                  don't shoot the messenger. I am not the one who created that. You should direct your anger or non-anger to the person who made it.

                  but it seems that he has since updated this W duct to an M duct.

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                  • paralay
                    Rank 5 Registered User

                    #29
                    Originally posted by Y-20 Bacon View Post
                    you'd be great friends with this guy...
                    If you can objectively compare these two aircraft, we will be friends

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                    • Semi-Lobster
                      Rank 5 Registered User

                      #30
                      It kind of got lost in the last thread but I was wondering if anybody here knew anything about alleged PESA radar mounted in the Zambian L-15Z? What sort of range and compatibility does it have? Do we even have a name?

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                      • Y-20 Bacon
                        Senior Member

                        #31
                        Originally posted by Semi-Lobster View Post
                        It kind of got lost in the last thread but I was wondering if anybody here knew anything about alleged PESA radar mounted in the Zambian L-15Z? What sort of range and compatibility does it have? Do we even have a name?
                        hello part time crustacean.
                        it seems nothing more than a rumor.
                        it is highly unlikely a trainer plane, even an armed one, would use a pesa radar.

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                        • QuantumFX
                          What?

                          #32
                          Originally posted by Semi-Lobster View Post
                          It kind of got lost in the last thread but I was wondering if anybody here knew anything about alleged PESA radar mounted in the Zambian L-15Z? What sort of range and compatibility does it have? Do we even have a name?
                          the L-15Z is an upgraded AFT version (Attack/Fighter/Trainer) - http://www.janes.com/article/63940/a...bian-air-force

                          The Zambian version has a small ESA radar (PESA?). Speculated to have a max range of 110km but target size not known (http://chinese-military-aviation.blo...ers.html#JL-10). It seems the PLAAF JL-10 does not have an ESA.

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                          • Y-20 Bacon
                            Senior Member

                            #33
                            Originally posted by QuantumFX View Post
                            the L-15Z is an upgraded AFT version (Attack/Fighter/Trainer) - http://www.janes.com/article/63940/a...bian-air-force

                            The Zambian version has a small ESA radar (PESA?). Speculated to have a max range of 110km but target size not known (http://chinese-military-aviation.blo...ers.html#JL-10). It seems the PLAAF JL-10 does not have an ESA.

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                            well now I stand corrected. it even looks the L-15 might be more combat capable than the Yak and Leonardo

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                            • QuantumFX
                              What?

                              #34
                              3 different flavors: J-10B (AL-31FN), J-10B (WS-10B), J-10C

                              J-10B (AL-31FN)


                              J-10B (WS-10B)


                              J-10C


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                              • QuantumFX
                                What?

                                #35
                                J-10C again:



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                                • Y-20 Bacon
                                  Senior Member

                                  #36
                                  great pics!

                                  it has came a long way from lavi inspired


                                  to pachunka level!

                                  Israel should adopt it one day, looks so right

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                                  • Semi-Lobster
                                    Rank 5 Registered User

                                    #37
                                    I'm curious about the radar and its capabilities because the L-15AFT variant is such a small radome. 110km isn't very powerful, but a very small, modular PESA radar for export as an upgrade package might be inciting for some 3rd world customers. TBH I never expected the L-15 to become an active combat platform. If it was compatible with PL-12 or the simplified SD-10A export variant it could be interested, even if Passive ESA development is a dead end.

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                                    • Evastun
                                      Rank 3 Registered User

                                      #38
                                      Originally posted by Semi-Lobster View Post
                                      I'm curious about the radar and its capabilities because the L-15AFT variant is such a small radome. 110km isn't very powerful, but a very small, modular PESA radar for export as an upgrade package might be inciting for some 3rd world customers. TBH I never expected the L-15 to become an active combat platform. If it was compatible with PL-12 or the simplified SD-10A export variant it could be interested, even if Passive ESA development is a dead end.
                                      there's nothing more they can do since the l-15s radome is small to begin with. sometimes radar size equals range.

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                                      • Semi-Lobster
                                        Rank 5 Registered User

                                        #39
                                        Originally posted by Evastun View Post
                                        there's nothing more they can do since the l-15s radome is small to begin with. sometimes radar size equals range.
                                        Well that's exactly my point. If a very small, lightweight PESA radar has been developed for the L-15, it's conceivable that it could be export by itself, as part of an upgrade package for other small randomed aircraft, like the RACR and SABR radar platforms. This could be an especially lucrative possibility if longer range air-to-air ordinance were made compatible with it in the future.

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                                        • Rii
                                          Rii
                                          Senior Member

                                          #40
                                          Is the L-15's radome really any smaller than the J-7's? The radar was likely developed from that line of technology.

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