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By: - 13th September 2016 at 11:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Whoever have larger radar.
By: - 13th September 2016 at 11:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As I've no need for a fighter aircraft in my commute, I'll stick with my Honda Accord... Better gas mileage.
By: - 13th September 2016 at 12:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Not even a choice - F-35.
It's like choosing between chocolate and a freshly laid turd.
By: - 13th September 2016 at 12:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Rafale.. I would not take the F-35 even if it came free of charge.
By: - 13th September 2016 at 12:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
F-35 will ultimately be better bang for buck,
if Meteor integration ever happen it will also become a good BVR platform
By: - 13th September 2016 at 12:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Rafale.. I would not take the F-35 even if it came free of charge.
bias is strong with this one
By: - 13th September 2016 at 12:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The F-35 will have the advantage of large production numbers which will lower its cost close to that of the rafale, so the comparison is a bit unfair.
By: - 13th September 2016 at 12:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
bias is strong with this one...says a China bot.. :)
By: - 13th September 2016 at 12:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
...says a China bot.. :)
Well to be fair there are more than a few Franco bots too.
By: - 13th September 2016 at 12:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
If I wanted a plan that could go to war now, I would choose the Rafale, as it is a proven platform.
If the question was being asked in say 5 years, I might say F35, assuming that by that time it had got to Block 4 Software and that it had proven itself, in this configuration, at such things as Red Flag, it is just too immature at the moment.
Then the question of what do I want out of plane, IMHO Rafale, with its higher speed is better for air defence.
By all accounts the F-35 has walloped other aircraft at Red Flag.
By: - 13th September 2016 at 12:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Well to be fair there are more than a few Franco bots too.
I am not one of 'em.. I just don't like the F-35..
By: - 13th September 2016 at 12:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I am not one of 'em.. I just don't like the F-35..
Many don't because of how it looks. Hell, I don't even like how it looks. I don't much like the look of Stephen Hawking either, he also doesn't move very fast, but the guy is smart as hell.
By: - 13th September 2016 at 12:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes I had seen that, I am also aware that the F35 using 3i or 2B software can only carry 2 AA missiles and 2 1,000lb bombs, not necessarily the load out that is required, I am also aware that there have been reports saying that there are problems with the project, issued by the Pentagon, I am sure the truth is somewhere between the two extremes, quite where on the continuum is the real question that nobody, as far as I know, knows the answer to, hence my response.
A half ready F-35 is still better than a fully ready 4th gen though.
By: - 13th September 2016 at 12:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Many don't because of how it looks. Hell, I don't even like how it looks. I don't much like the look of Stephen Hawking either, he also doesn't move very fast, but the guy is smart as hell.Hawking is a class.. But I love it how he's able to admit a defeat.. doesn't occur very often, though.. Kane of Hicks boson, Preskill on black hole's information paradox, Choptuik on naked singularities is all I can remember..
By: - 13th September 2016 at 13:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hawking is a class.. But I love it how he's able to admit a defeat.. doesn't occur very often, though.. Kane of Hick's Boson, Preskill on black hole's information paradox, Choptuik on naked singularities is all I can remember..
So he has development bugs too? Well, what do you know? My analogy was better than expected.
By: - 13th September 2016 at 13:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There is one problem, though.. as you have mentioned, Hawking is a class, the Rafale is a chocolate and the F-35 is a freshly laid turd..
You were, indeed, correct, but unlike you, I never liked turds.. and never will..
By: - 13th September 2016 at 13:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As I've no need for a fighter aircraft in my commute, I'll stick with my Honda Accord... Better gas mileage.
I myself am looking to a Mazda 3, a Ford Focus or an Opel Astra, the FIAT Punto is getting too small, those three are much better than a JSF or a Rafale for carrying the groceries and the kid...
By: - 13th September 2016 at 14:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As I've no need for a fighter aircraft in my commute, I'll stick with my Honda Accord... Better gas mileage.
As the question makes no sense in the absence of timelines, mission requirements, budgets and national-strategic considerations, this is as good an answer as any.
Still, I wouldn't mind an F-35 -- would sell for a fair bit I expect. Can I request a "B" model?
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By: Y-20 Bacon - 13th September 2016 at 11:32
seeing as how some in the other thread are arguing they are around the same price:
both come in naval and land based variants
both are often advertised to be awesomesauce in air to ground, with a decent air to air capability
both are advertised as being stealthy
which would you choose