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  • stealthflanker
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Sep 2015
    • 1027

    Originally posted by BlackArcher View Post

    I doubt it. Previous reports indicated that these were inspected in Russia by an IAF team and found to be in pretty good condition. Partially completed airframes, not fly-worthy MiG-29s. But the IAF did also consider the option of buying Malaysian MiG-29Ns and putting them through the UPG upgrade. Don't know what happened to that after the initial interest.

    One interesting thing to note on the MiG-35 is that its radome is smaller than that of the MiG-29M2 sold to Egypt and the MiG-29K. Looks like they weren't able to fit the full size AESA into the MiG-29M2 or MiG-29K radome, possibly due to a large back end?
    Cooling capacity.

    The original Zhuk-A or AE was intended to have some 1100 TR Modules. But the cooling requirement is somewhat beyond the MiG-29's capacity. While the one we have now the current scaled back Zhuk-AE does not really meet the expectation.

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    • BlackArcher
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Dec 2010
      • 4374

      Did anyone get any brochure on the AESA that the MiG-35 sported at MAKS 2019? What number of arrays, peak power, range for a fighter sized target, number of targets, etc.?

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      • BlackArcher
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Dec 2010
        • 4374

        The F-35 fiasco for Turkey has really worked as a blessing for Russia. They're in full wooing mode, trying to get Erdogan to switch to the Russians as a big supplier.

        MAKS 2019- Turkish President inspects Su-57 considers alternatives to F-35

        ...

        Erdoğan became the first foreign leader to inspect the Su-57, which he did with defense minister Hulusi Akar and other members of his entourage. Their guides on the tour were Putin, Russian defense minister Sergei Shoigu, and United Aircraft CEO Yuri Slyusar. Surrounded by selected media members, he asked Putin whether Turkey can buy the Su-57 and received an affirmative answer. On several interactions with the press on August 27 and 28, Erdoğan said, “We came here for more than just a sightseeing tour. We will make steps after learning about the final decision [from Washington on the F-35]. The market where Turkey can acquire everything it needs is large enough." On another occasion, he said, “We want to proceed with the solidarity [with Russia] in many areas of the defense industry. This can be on passenger or fighter aircraft. We will continue with the spirit of solidarity.”

        In his turn, Putin said that Turkish pilots are invited to undertake familiarization and evaluation flights in the Su-30SM. This type is a two-seat multirole fighter, as opposed to the Su-57 and Su-35 that are available only in single-seat versions. “When discussing combat aviation, we spoke of cooperation on the Su-35 and also about some possible work even on our newest Su-57. There are many other opportunities…and so we have also shown [the Turks] our modern combat systems as well as electronic warfare equipment. In my view, our Turkish partners are interested in many things, not only to buy but also to produce jointly. We are ready to cooperate in certain directions.”

        On Wednesday the head of Russia’s Federal Service for military-technical cooperation with foreign countries, Dmitry Shugayev, confirmed Turkey's interest in procurement of “either the Su-35 or Su-57.” Clarifying Ankara’s viewpoint, foreign minister Mevlt avuşoğlu said that Turkey would prefer to search for alternatives to the F-35 but would look for a new source to procure combat jets if the U.S. cancels F-35 shipments.

        Russia’s minister for industry and trade, Denis Manturov, added that preparations for Su-57 serial production at Sukhoi’s KnAAPO plant in Komsomolsk-upon-Amur have been ongoing for several years and are about to be completed. Capacity is sufficient for the timely fulfillment of the Russian defense order for 76 placed at ARMY 2019. He further stressed that KnAAPO will assemble the Su-57 in parallel with the Su-35. An initial batch will rely on the existing AL-41 engines that will subsequently be replaced by next-generation “item 30” engines that have been in flight test since December 2017. Deliveries with these engines are expected to start in 2023. The Su-57 has passed flight tests using air-launched munitions carried in the inner weapon bays. According to the Tactical Missile Corporation, development of new weapons for the Su-57 is proceeding on schedule and, among other types, the fighter can fire the R-37M long-range air-to-air missile.

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        • GromOzekA
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          • May 2018
          • 42

          Originally posted by BlackArcher View Post
          One interesting thing to note on the MiG-35 is that its radome is smaller than that of the MiG-29M2 sold to Egypt and the MiG-29K. Looks like they weren't able to fit the full size AESA into the MiG-29M2 or MiG-29K radome, possibly due to a large back end?
          It's funny that another MiG-35 demonstrated on MAKS 2019 have had radme of normal size.

          https://vpk.name/file/img/mig35_na_v...67152961.t.jpg

          MiG-35 is really a strange progect.

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          • panzerfeist1
            Rank 6 Registered User
            • Feb 2018
            • 415

            I guess I was right after all about a certain idea I presented earlier when a certain user made a joke out of it

            https://topwar.ru/159438-predstavlen...om-shassi.html

            Automotive chassis nuclear reactor designs presented

            At the military-technical forum “Army-2019”, the research and design institute (NIKIET) named after N.A. Dollezhal presented projects of unique reactor installations, including on a car chassis. These are promising installations that, if implemented, will significantly expand the boundaries of peaceful uses of nuclear energy


            "What installations are you talking about?

            We are talking about promising designs of reactor plants of relatively small nuclear power plants: ATGOR, Shelf, Vityaz and UNITERM.

            Earlier it was reported that such mobile nuclear reactors (auto nuclear power plants) can be used in areas with limited electric power resources - remote settlements. Mini-nuclear plants make it possible to reduce the cost of electricity, since the kilowatt-hours generated by a mobile reactor will cost about 1.5-1.7 times cheaper than the same kilowatt-hours produced by diesel-fueled diesel plants, which have to be brought in hundreds of km .

            The reactor is equipped on a car chassis - in a protected capsule. According to some reports, it is planned to use an autonomous cooling system.

            Today, NIKIET, which is part of Rosatom Corporation, acts as the chief designer of research reactors in the Russian Federation with a capacity of 100 MW (these are the SM-3, MIR, PIK units), the IBR-2 fast rector, and the MBIR multi-purpose fast reactor under construction."


            Nuclear reactor powering FICs based radars with improved missile technology in the future will sure make some dangerous SAM designs. I wonder how greatly these power sources would enhance laser and microwave technology. Just another pain in the ass for future air forces to worry about and this could enhance coverage for their airforce as well.
            I thought the fall of western civilization was a tragedy, now I realize it's a comedy.

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            • LMFS
              Rank 4 Registered User
              • Feb 2018
              • 562

              An (IMHO) good analysis of the MiG-35 saga:

              iz.ru/919501/aleksandr-ermakov/starye-voprosy-novogo-oblika-chego-zhdat-ot-mig-35

              Specially for panzerfeist1, news about ROFAR:

              iz.ru/914404/roman-kretcul-aleksei-ramm/byt-3d-novye-lokatory-sozdadut-trekhmernuiu-kartinku-tceli

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              • panzerfeist1
                Rank 6 Registered User
                • Feb 2018
                • 415

                thank you LMFS
                I thought the fall of western civilization was a tragedy, now I realize it's a comedy.

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                • haavarla
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 6715

                  Interesting promo vid from IAPO on Yak 130 and Su-30SM

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OUYRi2dfOg
                  Thanks

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                  • haavarla
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 6715

                    I went to MAKS 2011 when the Su-35BM prototype when full ballistic in its Display.. I miss the good old Times seeing vids like this:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7m33jLMsJM&t=4s
                    Thanks

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                    • Austin
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 6512

                      Updated Information on MS-21 Program from MAKS 2019

                      MC-21 - the most "wide-body" narrow-body aircraft

                      The Premiere of MC-21: facts, figures, comments
                      "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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                      • meme expert
                        Rank 4 Registered User
                        • Sep 2017
                        • 52

                        Somewhat relate to RuAF. Elbrus 8S processor info.

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                        • JangBoGo
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1510

                          One interesting thing to note on the MiG-35 is that its radome is smaller than that of the MiG-29M2 sold to Egypt and the MiG-29K. Looks like they weren't able to fit the full size AESA into the MiG-29M2 or MiG-29K radome, possibly due to a large back end?
                          Reality will evade anyone who doesn't look at it properly, courtesy pathetic display and promotion by RAC MiG

                          Below are some of the units displayed till now. The first one displayed more than a decade ago at Aero India with 680 t/r modules.

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                          The more recent one, same as the one displayed at Zuhai airshow 2016, had around 896 t/r modules

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                          The new one showcased on MiG-35 has around 1017 t/r modules on my rough counting

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                          Cooling capacity.

                          The original Zhuk-A or AE was intended to have some 1100 TR Modules. But the cooling requirement is somewhat beyond the MiG-29's capacity. While the one we have now the current scaled back Zhuk-AE does not really meet the expectation.
                          If I remember correctly, the plan was to have around 1064 t/r modules or 1016 t/r modules. And the Zhuk AESA radar installed on MiG-35 has around 1017 t/r modules on my rough counting. Don't get fooled by the same airframe and radome, its completely different. You can see how much the backend has changed and how far inside the radar has gone inside,

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                          • stealthflanker
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 1027

                            Originally posted by JangBoGo View Post

                            If I remember correctly, the plan was to have around 1064 t/r modules or 1016 t/r modules. And the Zhuk AESA radar installed on MiG-35 has around 1017 t/r modules on my rough counting. Don't get fooled by the same airframe and radome, its completely different. You can see how much the backend has changed and how far inside the radar has gone inside,
                            Is the one recently displayed even a real flying airframe ?



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                            • Austin
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 6512

                              RSK MiG unveils the flight performance of the MiG-35 fighter

                              https://aviation21.ru/rsk-mig-obnaro...itelya-mig-35/

                              Posted by 09/20/2019 | @AviaRu | 450
                              The manufacturer of light class 4 ++ fighter aircraft of the MiG RSK published on its website the official basic flight technical characteristics of the MiG-35 aircraft complex.

                              As stated in the press service of the corporation, this model is the pinnacle of the MiG family of aircraft. Single MiG-35 and double MiG-35D are created with the widespread use of technology of 5th generation fighters.

                              Pre-production samples of the MiG-35 aircraft were built by order of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and are being tested in the interests of the Russian Aerospace Forces. For mass production of fighters, the production and technological base has been modernized and successfully operates, providing the ability to produce aircraft at a high pace and with a high level of quality.

                              The main flight characteristics of the MiG-35 / MiG-35D:
                              • Crew - 1 or 2 people
                              • Maximum take-off weight - 24 500 kg
                              • Maximum external load - 6 500 kg
                              • Maximum traction - up to 18,000 kgf
                              • Maximum speed - 2 100 km / h
                              • Practical ceiling - 16,000 m
                              • Maximum operational overload - 9G
                              • Maximum flight range - 3,000 km

                              The fighter is designed to destroy air targets day and night, in simple and difficult weather conditions, as well as the defeat of moving and stationary ground (surface) targets.

                              The main advantages of the MiG-35 fighter in the corporation were reduced radar visibility, 4-fold redundancy on all control channels, an airborne radar station with AFAR, an optical radar station, and a helmet-mounted target designation and indication system. The aircraft has a modern information-control field of the cockpit with a high level of automation, can use all types of guided and unguided missiles, as well as adjustable bombs.

                              RD-33MK engines develop 9000x2 kgf thrust on the afterburner and accelerate the aircraft to a speed of 2100 km / h. The fighter has the ability to refuel in flight and can itself act as a tanker.

                              The full unification of single and double versions of the aircraft in terms of airframe design, on-board equipment complex and functions performed in combination with high-precision weapons allows the MiG-35 fighter to solve a wide range of tasks from gaining air supremacy in the confrontation with fourth and fifth generation fighters,
                              intercepting modern air attack means and striking with precision-guided weapons at ground and surface targets without entering the air defense zone before conducting air reconnaissance using optical electrons and radio equipment. A fighter can participate in group actions and perform the functions of an air control center for aviation groups.

                              Armament Composition

                              At nine points of the external suspension, a wide range of weapons can be located: guided air-to-air missiles of short, medium and long ranges, air-to-surface missiles designed to hit ground (surface) targets, adjustable aerial bombs, unguided missiles, bombs and one-time bomb containers of caliber from 100 to 500 kg, built-in automatic 30-mm gun.
                              Last edited by Austin; 22nd September 2019, 12:41.
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                              • Austin
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 6512

                                At ARMY 2019 , design Bureau "Vympel" demonstrated its new development – a missile "air-air" which exceeds in its parameters the existing missiles of this class. "Product 180" is a new missile received index K-77M, which will be initially installed on su-57, and in the future may go for export abroad. https://vladimir-krm.livejournal.com/5950713.html

                                Key Features:

                                New Dual Pulse Motor
                                AESA Radar Seeker for Missile
                                Range of 190 km+ at High Altitude & High Altitude Manouvering Capability
                                New aerodynamic scheme with X-shaped wings that reduces drag and as a consequence increased range


                                In the framework of military-technical forum "Army-2019" design Bureau "Vympel" demonstrated its new development – a missile "air-air" which exceeds in its parameters the existing missiles of this class.

                                "Product 180" is a new missile received index K-77M, which will be initially installed on su-57, and in the future may go for export abroad.

                                And though the rocket received index K-77M, but it has nothing to do with the missile K-77. The rocket is produced with a new aerodynamic scheme with X-shaped wings that reduces drag and as a consequence increased range.

                                Rocket in addition to the main wing (2 in diagram below) also added a stationary aerodynamic surface (4) before "driving" (3), which allowed to solve the main problem of all long-range missiles "air-air", namely the ability to maneuver at subsonic speeds. For example, the famous American missile AIM-120 and its recent modernization the AIM-120D have not been able to maneuver at speeds of less than 1200 km/h (while trying to maneuver increased angle of attack, and the rocket began to disintegrate.)




                                Also the missile is equipped with a double-pulse solid-propellant engine, which allowes high-altitude maneuvering and enables a range of up to 192 kilometers.

                                In addition, the missile is equipped with inertial navigation system and active radar homing head.

                                All these changes make the new missile K-77M a truly unique and a real formidable weapon.

                                Experts pay attention that apparently the Russian defense Ministry are very serious about the project su-57 and to develop this fighter is really unique weapons that have no analogues in the world. We already know that the su-57 would be installed a shorter version of hypersonic missile "Kinzhal" gliding cluster bomb "Drel", and now the missile K-77M. All of these types of weapons created recently and is unique in its characteristics.
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                                • Austin
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                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 6512



                                  Active radar seeker with an active phased array antenna 9B-1103М2.

                                  The illustrations show the layout of the GOS exhibited at the exhibition MAKS-2019 and the booklet given by "Agate".



                                  The latest development of JSC "mnii Agat"

                                  is Designed primarily for advanced missiles "air-air" medium-range missiles, in particular, for the R-77M.

                                  Serial production of the missile already starts, in accordance with the contract signed, the Ministry of defense during the forum Army-2019.

                                  According to the developers, the GOS is also suitable for rockets of class "air-surface".

                                  Having an antenna diameter of only 100 mm, seeker can detect targets with

                                  RCS of 0.003 sq. m at a distance of over 2 km
                                  with RCS of 0.1 sq m (rocket "air-Air" or stealth fighter) - 5 km
                                  with RCS of 5 sq m (conventional fighter) - more than 12 km

                                  Available frequency bands of operation - Ki and Ka.

                                  Weight of GOS is noticeably smaller than its predecessor 9B-1103М (for missiles R-77-1 and RVV-SD) - weight 3.5 kg vs 5.7 kg, 230 mm length 300 mm and diameter 100 mm vs. 150 mm, with comparable characteristics.

                                  However, the main feature of GOS is electronic beam steering antennas and, as a consequence, much more rapid scanning of the airspace in comparison to all predecessors that will be surely helpful for the tasks of missile defense of the carrier, and also in conditions of active electronic countermeasures by the enemy. In creating the AESA seeker for this was also attended by Fazotron-NIIR and NIIP Tikhomirov.


                                  Text and photos: encyclopedia of Military Aircraft





                                  https://vk.com/pakfa?w=wall-14964099...14964099_49960
                                  Photos & News Credits : RDF
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                                  • Austin
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 6512

                                    Picture : Production line of new R-74M ( export RVV-SD ) WVR Missile

                                    Compared to R-73 missile , It offers New Dual Colour IR seeker , Larger Off-Bore Sight and Longer Range , Likely the one we ordered recently.

                                    https://altyn73.livejournal.com/1392302.html
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