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  • St. John
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    • Jan 2018
    • 554

    Take a closer look at your pictures, in a better definition...no "deep holes to destroy underground facilities", only surface damages that evidently blow up storage hangars (or "bunkers" if you prefer). Many missiles for sure, ...but not 22 impacts, sorry.
    Where is this better definition you speak of? Ever seen a mole hole?

    You could fit over 100 4-bed detached properties of a residential neighbourhood on the area flattened at either of those sites.

    Look at Aleppo after years of bombing. It looks more upright and these are residential properties.

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    • panzerfeist1
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      • Feb 2018
      • 204



      go to 2:40 to see 12 tomahawks striking ISIS. Just posting this video as an evaluation on the destruction it should bring.

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      • archangelski
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        • Jul 2013
        • 2380

        Originally posted by St.John View Post
        Where is this better definition you speak of?
        http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net.../602551628.jpg

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        • St. John
          Rank 4 Registered User
          • Jan 2018
          • 554

          I see lots of dark round circles amidst the grey rubble that I would assume to be holes. Additionally the grey rubble area measures roughly 200mx100m on Google Earth, or about 4 football pitches in area.

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          • JSR
            JSR
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            • Aug 2011
            • 4928

            The P-800 was developed in the 1960s? Ground targets don't move at all, what's your point?
            P-800 development started later but it has nothing to with its scientific basis. It is MIG Ye-8 that is 1960s technology but if Soviet Union actually wanted to implement it would have taken until 1980s. its the inherent limitation in Soviet Computers and machines.
            Ground targets have a lot more flexibility. you can empty a building, you can put dummy targets. the missile has to differentiate between a lot of different things to hit the real thing. while at Sea it it is known ship that has no where to hide.
            You can look on Google Earth at the defences. Green = SA-6, Red = SA-2, Cyan = SA-3, Pink = SA-5, Blue = EW site.
            Yes google earth knows active site with upgrades since they cant locate buk and pantsir site.

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            • RadDisconnect
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Jul 2013
              • 473

              All this back and forth is annoying and doesn't achieve anything. Can we just drop the whole thing so this thread won't be deleted too?

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              • archangelski
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                • Jul 2013
                • 2380

                Originally posted by St.John View Post
                I see lots of dark round circles amidst the grey rubble that I would assume to be holes. Additionally the grey rubble area measures roughly 200mx100m on Google Earth, or about 4 football pitches in area.
                Only hangars/bunkers were targets, not the entire field.
                With all my optimistic view, I can only count 7 hits...which is not that bad for such relatively small area (7 X 1000 lbs).
                And for fun, a representation of 76 cruise missiles on Barzeh :

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                • TR1
                  TR1
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                  • Oct 2010
                  • 9743

                  Can you people take your cruise missile fetish elsewhere?
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                  • archangelski
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 2380

                    Originally posted by TR1 View Post
                    Can you people take your cruise missile fetish elsewhere?
                    Sorry TR1 (and other disturbed members), that's not in my habits... then I will follow my first path : no longer answer on this subject and stay on the RuAF thread.

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                    • TR1
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                      • Oct 2010
                      • 9743


                      more and more R-77-1 make a sight. that's a good sign.
                      Indeed, check out all these R-77-1s in Syria:







                      Also, Su-25SM3 finally in Syria:

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                      • haavarla
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                        • Dec 2008
                        • 6528

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                        I'd say VKS weapon development is progressing quite nicely at the moment.
                        And that is by my eyes, six R-77-1 on that Su-35S.

                        B.t.w., how do you see its an Su-25SM3, TR1?
                        Last edited by haavarla; 29th April 2018, 19:03.
                        Thanks

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                        • TR1
                          TR1
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                          • Oct 2010
                          • 9743

                          EW pods...

                          EDIT: Mi-28 high up

                          Last edited by TR1; 29th April 2018, 20:24.
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                          • Austin
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                            • Oct 2003
                            • 6412

                            “Life is Still Catching Up with Nikolay Kuznetsov’s Dreams”

                            http://mdb.cast.ru/mdb/1-2018/item4/article1/
                            "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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                            • stealthflanker
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 924

                              and that's a good Omul pod on Su-25's.

                              I heard things however that Gardeniya.. the jammer where omul based on was developed way too quickly which resulted in rather useless piece of equipment.

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                              • TR1
                                TR1
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                                • Oct 2010
                                • 9743

                                I believe the current L370-3S is quite different from original Omul.

                                https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content...61628-hlge.htm

                                Iran has ordered two civie Ka-226T.
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                                • Levsha
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                                  • Jan 2006
                                  • 2788

                                  “Life is Still Catching Up with Nikolay Kuznetsov’s Dreams”

                                  http://mdb.cast.ru/mdb/1-2018/item4/article1/
                                  Very interesting article Austin, especially when we are given the Russians' impressions of working with the Indian military in the 1980s: Indian training and procedures etc.

                                  However there is very little mention made of the fact that the NK-12 turboprop and the (TV-2 before it) which powers the Tu-95 and Tu-142 was created with the help of German engineers and designers who were sent to the USSR after Germany's defeat in 1945 and forced to work on Soviet projects.

                                  http://www.airpages.ru/eng/ru/troph3.shtml
                                  Last edited by Levsha; 1st May 2018, 10:43.

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                                  • Austin
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 6412

                                    German engineers were even sent to Allied countries to work on multiple project , Unless they have not heavily improvised on the engine since 1945 then credit goes to them else it also goes to many engineering on SU/Russian on this program.

                                    BTW german has given the world a lot of thing including first BM and Cruise missile , U boat etc so you cant take that away from them
                                    "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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                                    • Levsha
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Jan 2006
                                      • 2788

                                      German engineers were even sent to Allied countries to work on multiple project ,
                                      It is very well known that many German specialists were sent to the USA and other western countries after the war and worked on many military and aerospace projects - it is not so well known that the USSR also took advantage of 'nazi' German know-how in the post-war period as well - that was why I raised the point.

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                                      • Trident
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • May 2004
                                        • 3951

                                        Say hello!

                                        http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russi...-160/4970729/L
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                                        • JSR
                                          JSR
                                          Rank 5 Registered User
                                          • Aug 2011
                                          • 4928

                                          It is very well known that many German specialists were sent to the USA and other western countries after the war and worked on many military and aerospace projects - it is not so well known that the USSR also took advantage of 'nazi' German know-how in the post-war period as well - that was why I raised the point.
                                          US already had 40m German decent people with much superior R&D infrastructure. USSR simply cant take advantage of the few went there way.

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