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  • stealthflanker
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    • Sep 2015
    • 1016

    Originally posted by Meme Expert
    remember that when speaking about the Irbis E's 400 km range vs 3sqm , we are speaking about the range in track while scan mode.
    And as far as i thnik , radars may acheive their maximum range potential in velocity search mode , ive seen articles claiming that range in velocity search can be much longer than TWS. So maybe the Irbis E could go further than 400 km in such a mode , for 3m2.
    Then again we have Maximum instrumented range where radar is only "allowed" by the designer to declare detection at certain range.

    I don't think it's more than 400 km.

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    • JSR
      JSR
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      • Aug 2011
      • 4977

      Irbis is now decade old technology. I am sure It will have more range now.
      http://www.sukhoi.org/eng/planes/military/Su-35/
      The Research Institute has been developing Irbis since 2004. By now, the engineering prototypes of the system have passed the required bench trials. The first of them has been installed on the Su-30MK2 flying laboratory and is undergoing flight tests. The first flight of the flying laboratory with Irbis onboard occurred in early 2007 at Gromov Flight Test Institute. During the flight, the laboratory proved the superior performance of the new radar in the air-to-surface operating mode

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      • TR1
        TR1
        http://tiny.cc/tp8kd
        • Oct 2010
        • 9821

        Some photos of the "MiG-35":












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        • stealthflanker
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          • Sep 2015
          • 1016

          Phazotron better step their game up this time. I assume new MiG's got larger fuel capacity and potentially more cooling to support higher powered AESA TRM.

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          • BlackArcher
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            • Dec 2010
            • 4297

            Thanks for those pics TR1. The MiG-35 looks beautiful. What radar on board? Zhuk-M?

            And what is that sensor next to the nose mounted FLIR? MAWS?
            Last edited by BlackArcher; 25th January 2018, 07:24.

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            • JSR
              JSR
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Aug 2011
              • 4977

              Phazotron better step their game up this time. I assume new MiG's got larger fuel capacity and potentially more cooling to support higher powered AESA TRM.
              where is radar mentioned in this statement?
              http://uacrussia.ru/en/investors/pre...rebitel-mig-35
              Yury Slyusar reported to the President of Russian Federation that the new MiG-35 fighter was designed specially to perform combat activities in areas of high intensity conflicts, in high density air defences. Strong performance is achieved due to new defence suite, new opto-location station and reduced radar cross section signature.
              Also see Su-35. It all about netcentric and covert attacks on emitters. nothing of importance to radar.
              http://uacrussia.ru/en/aircraft/lineup/military/su-35/
              The high combat effectiveness of the Su-35 airplane is achieved through its:
              - Ability to operate independently, in a group of airplanes or as part of a battle group controlled from an aerial, ground-based or ship-based command center;
              - Single integrated information-management system providing intellectual support to the pilot, which maintains communication and coordination between the crew and avionics equipment;
              - Covert attacks on radio-emitting aerial targets at mid- and long-range;
              - Attacks on ground and sea-surface targets with guided high-precision missiles without entering air defense zones;
              - High target-tracking stability;
              - Simultaneous air-to-air and air-to surface operations.

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              • JSR
                JSR
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                • Aug 2011
                • 4977

                Qatar and S-400.
                http://www.novinite.com/articles/187...issile+Systems
                Qatar Negotiates for the Purchase of Russian Missile Systems
                Arabs are highly impressed with Russian technology. Russia just need to demonstrate it more with higher intensity.
                https://www.ft.com/content/d3e966da-...0-9c0ad2d7c5b5
                Saudi-Russian oil alliance will last for ‘decades and generations’ - al Falih

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                • JangBoGo
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                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1509

                  In Novosibirsk have created an all-aluminum aircraft engine
                  Published 23.01.2018 | @AviaRu |
                  http://aviation21.ru/v-novosibirske-...-aviadvigatel/



                  The world's first all-aluminium aircraft engine created by designers of Novosibirsk state technical University (NSTU). Aluminium made even those parts which are subjected to the highest loads: crankshaft, cylinder liners, and flywheel. About it reported in a press release issued by the press service NGTU.

                  In curb aluminum engine will weigh at least 200 kg, while the weight of its predecessor, the engine M-14P, not less than 250 kg. the power of the new engine increased by 10% up to 400 horsepower, and fuel consumption decreased by about 15 %.

                  Aluminium has already been used in the aviation and automotive engines, but parts, operating under high load, still made of steel. Scientists of Novosibirsk state technical University managed to replace them with aluminum using a special technology of plasma-electrolytic oxidation (PEO), established within the Institute of inorganic chemistry SB RAS. The essence of technology, what aluminum parts exposed to the plasma discharges, with the result that the surface formed a thin layer of aluminium oxide known as corundum. Corundum has high hardness and melting point, which is why aluminum parts with corundum surface can replace steel in the engine.

                  The new engine will be installed to double the Yak-52, old engines which are either already worn out or are on the verge of production. Now in Russia operates several hundred aircraft Yak-52, they are used as a training aircraft in DOSAAF schools, as well as private and commercial aircraft.

                  Ground engine test successfully passed at the mochishche aerodrome near Novosibirsk on 19 January 2018, Now the creators are testing the stated life of the engine, which is 2,000 hours. After that, the engine will be installed on the Yak-52 and will start its flight tests.

                  It is expected that serial production engine will be twice cheaper than modern analogues.

                  Engine designs created by the graduates of NSTU company "ZK-Action." The developer of the engine Professor, Department of aircraft and helicopter manufacturing, faculty of aircraft Novosibirsk state technical University, Ilya Zverkov, the development team are graduate students, and undergraduates NSTU. The NSTU, along with the Institute of theoretical and applied mechanics SB RAS and the Institute of inorganic chemistry SB RAS provides scientific and technological support for the development. Funded the development of the engine mainly at the expense of Fund "Revival of Russian aviation".
                  Initially I thought it was an all aluminium M-14P radial engine. But its not.
                  Compared to the M-14P
                  Weight 200 Kg
                  Power - 400 hp (10%increase)
                  Fuel consumption - decreased by about 15 %

                  I wonder if this new engine will be considered for the Yak-152. They should promote it to the Chinese who can use it on their Yak-152 variant which is currently using that 9-cyinderl M-14P radial engine.



                  Worlds first ever aluminum aircraft engine developed in Siberia
                  https://www.ruaviation.com/news/2018/1/23/10647/

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                  • JangBoGo
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                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1509

                    https://twitter.com/vestinews_en

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                    • TR1
                      TR1
                      http://tiny.cc/tp8kd
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 9821


                      Phazotron better step their game up this time. I assume new MiG's got larger fuel capacity and potentially more cooling to support higher powered AESA TRM.
                      Yes, well it is not only Phazatron that needs to get a move on it. I still have slim hopes we might see RD-33MKM on it....

                      Thanks for those pics TR1. The MiG-35 looks beautiful. What radar on board? Zhuk-M?

                      No problem. Definitely doesn't look bad, but I just wish it actually had something to call it the MiG-35.

                      Yep, Zhuk-M(2?), the sensor on the nose next to the IRST is the SOAR maws system.

                      Some pics of the Il-78MD-90A first flight:

















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                      • TR1
                        TR1
                        http://tiny.cc/tp8kd
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 9821

                        Putin showed up @ KAPO to announce the first 10 Tu-160M2 contract was signed for 160 billion rubles.

                        The new bird looks slick:







                        https://fotografersha.livejournal.com/959143.html
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                        • Olrik
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                          • Jan 2015
                          • 18

                          Originally posted by TR1 View Post
                          Putin showed up @ KAPO to announce the first 10 Tu-160M2 contract was signed for 160 billion rubles.

                          The new bird looks slick


                          Very purty indeed, a touch of classic elegance not often seen in Russian jets (women on the other hand... but I digress).

                          Not a Putin fan, but cant deny that he is results oriented.

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                          • totoro
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 1026

                            So 287 million dollars per bird? Sounds about right what it should be, with restarting after a long hiatus, with bunch of new tech and systems, for a small batch. With salary differences, similar plane contracted in US would have cost 500+ million per bird.

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                            • Austin
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 6483

                              Contract documents reveal plans for Russia's new widebody engine

                              A newly-signed contract discloses key details of Russias design goals for the countrys first high-bypass gas turbine engine in the 75,000lb-thrust power class launched on 19 January to support the CRAIC CR929 widebody, Ilyushin Il-96-400 and several military projects.

                              The $1.13 billion (₽64.3 billion) contract awarded by the Russian government on 19 January calls on United Engine-Aviadvigatel to develop a demonstrator engine named the PD-35-1 by 2023 featuring several state-of-the-art technologies, including wide-chord composite fan blades and composite fan case, ceramic matrix composites and advanced cooling systems.


                              The PD-35-1 also will be designed with a compressor pressure ratio measuring 23:1, the contract documents posted on the Russian governments procurement agency says. That falls a step below the 27:1 ratio planned for the high-pressure compressor section of the GE Aviation GE9X engine now in development testing for the Boeing 777X.


                              But the documents still reveal a plan for Russian industry to make dramatic progress over the next decade. Building on the advanced metallics now in testing in the 28,000lb-thrust PD-14 turbofan, the PD-35-1 will drive Russia to introduce composite materials pioneered by GE over the last 15 years. The Aviadvigatel PD-14 is Russias homegrown alternative to the Pratt & Whitney PW1400G on the Irkut MC-21 narrowbody.

                              In a statement posted on his Facebook page, Russias deputy prime minister for defence and space industries Dmitry Rogozin notes that the Soviet Union never produced a turbofan engine over 70,000lb-thrust and the PD-35-1 will become the first in the regions history.

                              We really need it, he says.

                              Russia and China have teamed up to develop the CR929 under the CRAIC joint venture between Comac and United Aircraft. CRAIC is expected to select an engine made by GE or R-R to introduce the CR929 into commercial service by the end of the next decade. Separately, China and Russia each plan to develop indigenously-sourced alternatives to the Western powerplants for the CR929. The PD-35-1 also would be used to power several Russian air force development projects, including the Il-476 airlifter, Il-478 tanker and a long-term effort to replace the Antonov An-124.

                              Mimicking the structural configuration of the Boeing 787s GEnx-1B engines, the PD-35-1 engine will be designed with wide-chord composite fan blades and a composite, the contract documents show. The documents dont specify if Russian industry plans to use a similar process as GEs 3D woven composite materials.

                              The turbine of the PD-35-1 will be exposed to temperatures as high as 1,450C (2,640F), exceeding the melting point of most advanced metal alloys. To help the turbine survive, the contract documents say Aviadvigatel must integrate exotic new materials and advanced cooling systems. Two types of ceramic matrix composites (CMCs) silicon carbide-silicon carbide (SiC-SiC) and carbon-silicon carbide (C-SiC) will be used in the PD-35-1 demonstrator engine, the contract documents say. GE pioneered the use of CMCs in the Leap-1 series of engines that it produces with Safran under the CFM International joint venture.
                              "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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                              • JSR
                                JSR
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 4977

                                Originally posted by totoro View Post
                                So 287 million dollars per bird? Sounds about right what it should be, with restarting after a long hiatus, with bunch of new tech and systems, for a small batch. With salary differences, similar plane contracted in US would have cost 500+ million per bird.
                                $500m?. think more like $3b at minimum. This is already too big for US manufacturing.This Tu-160 price will go down later once PAKDA starts with uniform systems. The newer IL96-400M at $120m. This is one third of price of Boeing 777 at a very slow production rate initially . and B777 is designed by global engineers with global parts.

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                                • JSR
                                  JSR
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Aug 2011
                                  • 4977

                                  Tor-M2 in group action.
                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99QoL_iMdrg

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                                  • haavarla
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Dec 2008
                                    • 6702

                                    Putin showed up @ KAPO to announce the first 10 Tu-160M2 contract was signed for 160 billion rubles.

                                    The new bird looks slick:
                                    It also seems the Smokey engines has been improved.. IMO there is no smoke anymore.

                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsozfhfCmPI
                                    Thanks

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                                    • Sab3r329
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Apr 2016
                                      • 91

                                      There was smoke before? I remember sometimes seeing red/orange hazes left by the engines, due to the additives in the fuel made for increasing thrust.

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                                      • Kopyo-21
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Jan 2009
                                        • 212

                                        Look at the Mig-35's photos, seem to be its wings are foldable like Mig-29K/KUB. Is that RuAF Mig-35's standard wings or just because they use the same aircrafts for Mig-29K/KUB prototype in the past and Mig-35 prototype now?
                                        Last edited by Kopyo-21; 27th January 2018, 08:26.

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                                        • TR1
                                          TR1
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                                          • Oct 2010
                                          • 9821

                                          I believe they are fixed, so that there is no G-limit on the birds. The air-frames are pretty closely unified, hence the Kruger devices and larger wing flaps on the land-based birds as well.

                                          On topic, Egyptian MiG-29M2:

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