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  • El_Indigo
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    • Jul 2006
    • 287

    Hey, guys whatever happened to ?

    pilot.strizhi.info

    Used to be a great archive for variety Soviet arms projects including obviously planes.

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    • TR1
      TR1
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      • Oct 2010
      • 9806

      I am not sure, but Pilot himself is active here:

      https://samoletchik.livejournal.com/

      and here occasionally.

      http://forums.airforce.ru/
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      • Austin
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        • Oct 2003
        • 6463

        General Benediktov during his tour company has inspected several Il-76MD-90 cells currently under construction at the plant and highlighted the satisfaction of the Ministry of defence about the progress made in the development Il-76MD-90. since, according to technicians, the aircraft has a high degree of reliability and operating in extreme conditions operation with a rate of 25-30% higher efficiency than the original version Il-76 from which it derives.
        Around 15 % fuel reduction is due to change in engine to PS-90A-76

        http://avid.ru/en/avia/?id=2

        The remaining 10 % might be due improvement in wings and avionics
        "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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        • JSR
          JSR
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          • Aug 2011
          • 4951

          PD-14 will further increase the range 20%. the key word is increase upto 30% in extreme conditions with current technology.

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          • Austin
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            • Oct 2003
            • 6463

            PD-14 will further increase the range 20%. the key word is increase upto 30% in extreme conditions with current technology.
            Between latest variant of PS-90A3 variant and PD-14 the fuel efficiency gain is ~ 15 %
            "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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            • Austin
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              • Oct 2003
              • 6463

              The Ministry of Finance disclosed the amount of defense spending for the next three years

              For these purposes it is planned to spend almost 6.8 trillion rubles

              http://www.interfax.ru/business/589342

              Moscow. November 28. INTERFAX.RU - Nearly 6.8 trillion rubles in the next three years will be allocated from the budget for spending in the field of national defense, said Deputy Finance Minister Leonid Gornin.

              "The project of the federal budget in 2018-2020 cost in the field of national defense and national security, law enforcement activities recorded in the amount of 2 trillion 271 billion rubles, in 2019 - 2 trillion 228 billion rubles and 2020 - 2 trillion 295 billion rubles," - said Gornin during a meeting of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security.

              "The current maintenance of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, including food, transportation, infrastructure maintenance in 2018, we adjusted to the amount of more than 62 billion rubles, the implementation by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation of certain measures in 2018 to the amount of more than 14 billion rubles, to pay for utilities and the provision of fuel and fuel, as well as food in 2018, was additionally provided for 23 billion rubles, "Gornin said. The Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security approved the draft budget.

              The State Duma last week adopted in the third and final reading the law on the federal budget for 2018-2020. State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin, commenting on the adoption of the budget in the third reading, said that its main indicator, "where we see development, is the growth of the gross domestic product."

              The budget revenues in 2018 will be 15.258 trillion rubles, expenditures - 16.529 trillion rubles, deficit - 1.3% of GDP. Revenues in 2019 are planned in the amount of 15.555 trillion rubles, expenses - 16.374 trillion rubles, deficit - 0.8% of GDP. In 2020, revenues are laid at 16.285 trillion rubles, expenditures - 17.155 trillion rubles, a deficit - 0.8% of GDP.

              According to the document, the base oil and gas revenues in 2018 will amount to 5.480 trillion rubles, in 2019 - 5.247 trillion rubles, in 2020 - 5.440 trillion rubles. In this case, non-oil revenues in 2018 will be equal to 9.779 trillion rubles, in 2019 - 10.307 trillion rubles, in 2020 - 10.845 trillion rubles.
              "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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              • Arihant
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                • Apr 2017
                • 440

                The first IL-78M-90A was transfered to the flight station today at the Aviastar plant.

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                The tanker is outfitted with the President - S suite.

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                • Arihant
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                  • Apr 2017
                  • 440

                  An interesting read on how Brahmos was integrated with the Su-30MKI.

                  The author of the article is RK Tyagi, the former CMD of HAL.

                  It was a hot summer forenoon of 1 May 2013 when as chairman of the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), I had a strategic discussion with CEO of Brahmos Aerospace, at his office in Kirby Place, New Delhi. During the discussions he enquired whether HAL had the technical capability to integrate the Brahmos missile on to the Air Force’s Su-30 MKI fighters.

                  He also said that Russia had offered to do it at a cost of $200 million (Rs 1,300 crore approx). He was not sure, however, if spending so much would help India gain any technological expertise. Air Marshal Arup Raha, vice-chief of IAF (who later took over as IAF chief in December 2013), told me in another meeting that this integration will be a game changer for the Air Force and 40 Su-30s would need such modifications.

                  Our designers in Nashik went into the details of the challenges involved and a few months later, we confirmed we could do it. There was, however, another challenge. A.S. Pillai, CEO, Brahmos, indicated that he had a budget of only Rs 80 crore for this project and requested HAL to stay within this.

                  Considering the financial limitation of Brahmos, the HAL board took a historic decision that even if the firm will not make a profit on this task, it will be a good project and should be undertaken in national interest.

                  It was for the first time in the history of HAL that it was decided to absorb the design and development costs, waive the profit element and contingency costs and finalise a technology project for only Rs 80 crore. This showed the positive synergy between IAF and the industry where cost becomes secondary and national pride, competence and technology development comes to the fore.

                  Four years later, on 22 November 2017, a Su-30 MKI took off from Kalaikunda, carrying a 2.5-tonne Brahmos missile for test firing at a target in the Bay of Bengal. In copy book style, the missile struck a target on sea, located 260 km away with a high degree of precision and perfection.

                  We celebrate this success in two ways. First, the integration of Brahmos Air Launch Cruise Missile (ALCM) greatly enhances IAF’s ability to strike heavily defended targets deep into enemy territory, up to a range of 2,100 km (or 3,900 kms with a refueller).

                  Even if Brahmos is fired from a Su-30 MKI that remains within Indian borders, a wide strike range of 290 km is now available. This will be a paradigm shift for tomorrow’s confrontations with hostile countries. In active wars, the top priority is to destroy strategic enemy locations and defence infrastructure such as nuclear weapon batteries and the air launched Brahmos will provide India these capabilities.

                  Second, the test is a demonstration of how indigenous technical capabilities have been developed in the country. More than 100 Indian companies involving 20,000 specialists, engineers and technicians work on Brahmos manufacturing and technical modifications.

                  Modification of the Su-30 MKI for Brahmos integration involved safe stores separation analysis consisting of wind tunnel and CFD (computational fluid dynamics) analysis. Watertight NMG (numerical master geometry) of the aircraft had to be generated from 2D drawings.

                  Structural modifications had to be within the aircraft’s centre of gravity (CG) envelope and in such a way that they did not alter vibration characteristics. Carriage and release actuation along with electrical and avionics integration was another challenge. FTI (flight test instrumentation) for the operations along with missile system software modifications also had to be undertaken. All this was done by a consortium of Indian industry led by HAL.

                  Economic prosperity and technology prowess of a country depend on how the scientific and technological community of that country come together on projects of strategic importance. Many other agencies like RCMA, DGAQA, CEMILAC, NAL, AST, SDI, MSQAA, NEUCON, and ZEUSS NUNERIX worked together on this project.

                  The Brahmos integration is just the beginning. The know-how developed on this project should now be leveraged to develop an upgraded Su-30 (Super Su-30) with stronger structures, better avionics and radars and more effective combat capabilities. This can create an impregnable combat cover of at least 1,500 km depth around all Indian borders — at land or on high seas.

                  Brahmos missile has now achieved the challenges of integration into all three versions for land, water and air attacks. I understand that Brahmos Aerospace will now be working on the hypersonic version (5-7 Mach) with an extended range of 600 km.

                  R.K. Tyagi is president, Aeronautical Society of India and former HAL chairman
                  https://theprint.in/2017/11/29/insid...fighter-plane/

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                  • Austin
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                    • Oct 2003
                    • 6463

                    Interview with Viktor Bondarev , Has his take on INF Treaty and Foreign Military Base and Syrian Crisis

                    Viktor Bondarev: the success of the Russian Air Force in Syria showed the world the might of our army
                    "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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                    • Austin
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 6463

                      An interesting read on how Brahmos was integrated with the Su-30MKI.

                      The author of the article is RK Tyagi, the former CMD of HAL.
                      Good write up by Tyagi , HAL achieved this integration with shoe string budget.

                      The new hypersonic missile of 600 km range hopefully this gets integrated with MKI and Rafale that would be a game changer.
                      "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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                      • FBW
                        FBW
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                        • Dec 2011
                        • 3291

                        Interview with Viktor Bondarev , Has his take on INF Treaty and Foreign Military Base and Syrian Crisis
                        Won't comment much on the Syrian and Ukrainian parts which are obviously aimed at domestic consumption- though I do love how he claims that the US and Russia aren't cooperating in Syria. Obviously, there is a difference of opinion on several issues related with Assad, but this is a sad display of the constant anti-US propaganda fed to Russians.

                        The N. Korea section is truly shocking, there was no sabre rattling until fat man started nuke testing and test firing missiles on provocative trajectories near his neighbors. Discounting the war of words between the two egotists, the actions that threaten to upend that region have been prompted by DPRK. Wonder if Bondarev would feel differently if Ukraine was test firing prototype ICBMs in the waters of the Black Sea? S. Korea and Japan have every reason to worry when Jong-Un has shown willingness provoke with attacks on S. Korean islands and ships.

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                        • JSR
                          JSR
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Aug 2011
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                          The author of the article is RK Tyagi, the former CMD of HAL.
                          Russian flankers carry heavier pods, fuel tanks than Su-30MKI. I have no doubt Irkut would have put 3 brahmos with much faster and high quality implementation.

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                          • Austin
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 6463

                            The N. Korea section is truly shocking, there was no sabre rattling until fat man started nuke testing and test firing missiles on provocative trajectories near his neighbors. Discounting the war of words between the two egotists, the actions that threaten to upend that region have been prompted by DPRK. Wonder if Bondarev would feel differently if Ukraine was test firing prototype ICBMs in the waters of the Black Sea? S. Korea and Japan have every reason to worry when Jong-Un has shown willingness provoke with attacks on S. Korean islands and ships.
                            AFAIK till Obama left his post the Fat man was not testing any thing , Only when Trump came he provoked him and then he fell for it and started testing nuke and missile , one thing lead to another. Till the last day of Obama there was no crisis on North Korea and it is not that when Trump came to the scene North developed missile and nuclear weapon , he just tried to deal with this situation different due to domestic Political compulsion
                            "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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                            • TR1
                              TR1
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                              • Oct 2010
                              • 9806

                              but this is a sad display of the constant anti-US propaganda fed to Russians.
                              Let's be honest, even accounting for the significantly free-er nature of the press in the US, the coverage of Russia is anything but balanced in the US, even if we only stick to the question of Syria.
                              As an example, coverage of Russian "civilian bombing" is comically biased and framed as if the US stands in some pseudo-moral high ground. There is dissenting opinion (particularly if the author is making some partisan larger argument) no doubt, but as a total mass of information reaching the American public, propaganda isn't a term far off. This might as well be an opinion piece that are published by the hundreds in leading American newspapers, 90% of which argue "Russia Assad killing babies, we shouldn't tolerate it". Opposite argument, same tripe.

                              As for his comments about Syria, he says the cooperation with the US has been "non-constructive". Quite frankly, from the Russian perspective (and that I happen to think is relatively accurate, even accounting for American help bombing ISIS) the US is an invader on Syria ground, a supporter of rebel and terrorist forces against the government, and any notion of cooperation is a non-starter at the core. Before you say "but Ukraine!", yes I am aware of great power hypocrisy.
                              Last edited by TR1; 29th November 2017, 18:08.
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                              • wilhelm
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 1654

                                The usual unrelated kneejerk defensive tripe.
                                This is the Russian Airforce thread.

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                                • FBW
                                  FBW
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                                  • Dec 2011
                                  • 3291

                                  FAIK till Obama left his post the Fat man was not testing any thing , Only when Trump came he provoked him and then he fell for it and started testing nuke and missile
                                  - then you would be wrong. His testing of ICBM and Nuclear testing ramped up during the Obama admin.

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                                  • FBW
                                    FBW
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                                    • Dec 2011
                                    • 3291

                                    The usual unrelated kneejerk defensive tripe.
                                    This is the Russian Airforce thread.
                                    RussiaDefense called... they are missing you over there with the rest of the ignorant warmongers.

                                    Of course, you can stay and spew out your usual garbage like over the shipyard Carrier construction till I shut you up with the director of the Baltiysky Zavod saying in a publication exactly what I had said.

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                                    • Austin
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Oct 2003
                                      • 6463

                                      - then you would be wrong. His testing of ICBM and Nuclear testing ramped up during the Obama admin.
                                      They were consistent in testing much before obama but due to Trump rhetoric they speeded it up and likely surprised many how soon they could achieve. Domestic compulsion for both leaders to show who is better.
                                      "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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                                      • FBW
                                        FBW
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                                        • Dec 2011
                                        • 3291

                                        be honest, even accounting for the significantly free-er nature of the press in the US, the coverage of Russia is anything but balanced in the US, even if we only stick to the question of Syria.
                                        - Broadly agree with what your saying.

                                        What I find worrisome is that this isn't a reporter's OpEd, or even a poorly sourced clickbait article. Viktor Bondarev is the former head of one of the major service branches and still the chairman of the Federation Council's Defense and Security Committee.

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                                        • bring_it_on
                                          2005-year of the RAPTOR!!
                                          • Jun 2004
                                          • 12480

                                          They were consistent in testing much before obama but due to Trump rhetoric they speeded it up and likely surprised many how soon they could achieve. Domestic compulsion for both leaders to show who is better.
                                          They likely won't catch up to the number of tests they did in 2016 (Pre-Trump). 2017 is just slightly ahead of 2014, the year they really upped testing which they have been basically sustaining every since. FBW's assertion that they ramped up during Obama is accurate. As a reference, Papa Kim died in December of 2011 and Kim Jr. basically assumed charge around 2012 which could help explain the aggressive ramp up in testing if one builds a year or two of lead time. It was a conscious decision to significantly increase testing over a 2-4 year span. This was a policy decision by the regime when Trump was still hosting the Apprentice and feuding with Rosie O'Donnell.



                                          https://twitter.com/Shea_Cotton/stat...90193280585728
                                          Last edited by bring_it_on; 29th November 2017, 18:43.
                                          Old radar types never die; they just phased array

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