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    First new production NK-32 post 1993


    https://t.co/7Waf09HJBm?amp=1

    A new test stand for Nk-32-02 engines have been established at Samara. And this year PJSC Kuznetsov will deliver 6 NK-32 series 2.

    "This is much more complicated than launching a spaceship"

    Kazan GiproNIIaviaprom delivered in Samara a "test site" for Tu-160M2 engines worth several billion

    Another important for the restart of production Tu-160 technology was restored thanks to the specialists of Kazan GiproNIIaviaprom. In Samara, a testing stand of engines for Tu-160 and Tu-160M2 was put into operation, and in the future, possibly, for an entirely new strategic missile carrier. On October 6, a test of the "missile-carrying" engine began at the stand. Expert "BUSINESS Online" claims that in Russia there are almost no specialized organizations capable of creating such a science-intensive construction.


    AND AGAIN FORGOTTEN OLD

    Piggy returned from non-existence of Tu-160-technology continues to replenish. Following the restoration of the titanium assembly in Kazan, a test stand for the engines of the strategic missile carrier was restarted in a quarter of a century of idleness, and the key role in this was played by Kazan GiproNIIiAprom. The company, in fact, built a new stand. And on October 6, TASS reported, tests of updated engines NK-32 started on it.

    Let only not mislead the word "stand", giving birth to associations with something exhibition. The aviation test stand No. 1 of the Samara PJSC "Kuznetsov" is something like a separate plant. "The console stand and the test box, the administrative and household building were completely reconstructed," the Kuznetsov release was dryly informed. - Engineering networks and bench systems have been replaced by 100 percent: fuel, air, oil system, generator loading system, automated process control systems. Installation of a new exhaust shaft and an air intake shaft has been carried out. In addition, to the building where the stand was located, a new engine preparation room was added for testing with an area of ​​more than 1.2 thousand square meters. "

    "For example, let's take a platform for launching a spacecraft," he decided to explain to the correspondent of BUSINESS Online the scale of the advisor to the Prime Minister of the Republic of Tajikistan Nazir Kireev. - It's just a rocket put on the starter table, there are make-up systems, a start button, and, roughly speaking, everything - it flew. But the stand for testing the engine of the same rocket - this is a more serious construction, as much as possible saturated with instruments for measuring the parameters of the engine. This is much more complicated than, say, launching a spaceship! If at the start of the engine works only in one mode, then here - starting from small revolutions and ending with extreme regimes. That is, this building is not only large-scale, but also science-intensive. Very difficult work. " Here we note that GiproNIIaviaprom not only reconstructed the premises itself, but also manufactured, picked up and installed the equipment. The scale of the works is illustrated by the fact that they were conducted almost two years.


    MILITARY IN THE ILLUMINATION

    According to Kireev, the restoration of the stand is a whole stage in the reconstruction of the Tu-160 production. Research and development work on the NK-32 engine (and there are four on the Tu-160) Kuibyshev OKB "KMZ" Trud "began in 1970, it was tested since 1977, the series went back to 1986. But in 1993, when the Russian government decided to curtail production of the Tu-160, they stopped the production of engines. Since then, they are only being repaired in Samara. However, in 2004-2006, the developers upgraded the engine - increased its resource, but, as far as is known, before the series the case never came - had to be limited to four engines.

    The stock of Soviet strength allowed to operate the constructed NK-32 to this day, but the engine resource is not infinite (especially given the dramatically increased intensity of long-range aviation operations). The decision to resume production of NK-32 was made after Russian President Vladimir Putin visited Kuznetsov in the summer of 2014 . Investments in the project were estimated at 8 billion rubles. And next year they decided to restore the production of the Tu-160 in Kazan, which is all the more impossible without new engines.

    The creation of the engine is impossible without a test bench. And now he is certified under NK-32 series 02, and today began testing the engines. "The upgraded booth # 1 will significantly shorten the timeframe for testing our products and improve the quality of products through the introduction of a new automated system for measuring and evaluating engine parameters," Sergei Pavlinich, Deputy General Director and Managing Director of Kuznetsov, said in a bureaucratic style . "The growing volumes of state defense order and strict deadlines for execution on it require us to optimize and accelerate all production processes, and the large-scale measures taken at stand No. 1 will allow us to work in this way."

    If you translate into human language, then the stand is needed urgently. The fact is that until the end of the year and at the beginning of 2018 motor-builders are obliged to hand over the installation set of NK-32-02 - the first 6 engines to the military. "We are completing this year, I hope, the contract with the installation lot is 6 engines," Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov was quoted as saying by Interfax . - In early August, the plant starts qualifying tests, which will last almost a month and a half. After their completion, we will make a conclusion on the readiness to accept those engines that are currently in the final assembly. "

    Moreover, according to Borisov, the Defense Ministry expects to start rhythmic, that is, serial, deliveries - a contract will be concluded for 2018, 2019, 2020. And for Kuznetsov this is a stable income. Especially on NK-32 they plan to rearm (instead of NK-25) and the entire fleet of Tu-22M3 long-range, and this is the bread for the Kazan aircraft plant, which will replace it.

    Kazan Giproniaviaprom carried out a project to reconstruct the production base of PJSC "Kuznetsov"
    Kazan GiproNIIaviaprom carried out a project to reconstruct the production base of PJSC Kuznetsov


    AND FOR THE NEW "STRATEGY" TOO

    With the new engine, big plans are bound for a somewhat distant future. Now, with the appearance of the stand, the company can take full advantage not only of the topic of NK-32-02, but also of what will be behind it. Presumably, the gas generator NK-32 will be the basis for the engine (possibly it will be called NK-65) of the long-range aviation long-range aviation complex (PAK DA), which, in theory, should replace all types of long-range and strategic bombers that exist today - and Tu- 95, and Tu-22M3, and Tu-160. By the way, it will be produced at the Kazan aircraft plant. In addition, the same gas generator will be the basis for a new engine of heavy transport aircraft An-124 "Ruslan". "NK-32 is a unique engine," Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin told Interfax.. - We use new design and engineering solutions. The design basis of this engine is ahead of its time, it will be used in the future ... In the future, the bomber will receive an even more new engine - a turbojet three-shaft NK-65 with a thrust of 30 tons. This is a recognizable shape of the aircraft with a deep modernization. "

    As it turns out, GiproNIIaviaprom carried out design works on the reconstruction of the whole production base of Kuznetsov, and as for the stand itself ... "Today, in general, there are few organizations that have the competence to create such a structure, and GiproNIIaviaprom not only designed the stand, but also saturate it with equipment, "emphasizes Kireev. - Boris Ivanovich ( Boris Tikhomirov - General Director of GiproNIIaviaprom - ed. ) In the most difficult years managed to keep personnel, and to him today and appeal to engines, and aircraft, and missiles ... And what they did in Samara, phenomenally ! "
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      with arrival of MIG-29M2/MIG-35 i am sure things will change much faster. 5 missiles per wing.

      Its 4 missiles per wing. Its not a Su-25 yet :-)

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        And they don't work as intended like THAAD failures to shoot down NK missiles flying over Japan.
        Hokkaido, Japan, is Northeast of NKorea, the THAAD units are in South Korea.
        Thats like saying that THAAD batteries in Romenia have failed because they coulndt intercept a ballistic missile shot from Kaliningrad that overflew Saint Petersburg in direction to Arkhangelsk.

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          "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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            2nd Il-112:

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              hmm The 9M96 family looks nice. It appears to use Free to roll tail, in conjunction with explosive based Thruster located in missile CG like Erint. Canard control for packaging efficiency. (I assume half of the missile is entirely consist of rocket motor) Such configuration, similar as Israeli Python-4 and 5 family, maximizing missile G capability and thrust.

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                What is interesting is the target speed described while 9M96 can hit a target travelling max at 1000 m/sec for 9M96E1 it is 4800 m/sec , That would correspond to BM with reentry speed of MRBM and IRBM targets.

                An Older Comparition Chart

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                  So we know that the 9m96 works on ground based tests but initially had trouble on the tests on Gorshkov, right? But from last reports I heard it passed.

                  So they will finally be implemented. Wonder about S-350 then? Seen picture of it and supposedly somewhere in Russian testing grounds but someone misidentified the location as Syria.

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                    Actually, even before Gorshkov, it failed for many times on 20380 corvettes. Unfortunately, 9M96 is still a semi-paper-project with a doubtful reliability.

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                      20380 Corvettes also had a guidance system that was woefully inadequate for such a high performance missile. And this was before Fakel QC issues.

                      Egyptian Ka-52:

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                        And Egyptian MiG-29M2s:

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                          so @TR1 we can dismiss news about "deployment" of S-350 to Syria etc ?

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                            Yes, 100%.

                            Unless it is a show deployment like Terminator for a few photos, though the BMPT at least works, so even that isn't too plausible.
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                              Now why would the 9M96 be a paper project when it has been tested and we seen videos of it? It seems to be a rather important project for the Russian military, so they seem to be pushing it. Not to mention Almaz Antey has undergone some recent changes due to issues at Fakel plant.

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                                Agreed. They have had problems with the Naval S-350 Redut system like for ever.. since 2009. All of a sudden they have crammed out the Vityaz..

                                That being said, perhaps they have fielded one just for "testing" in Syria.

                                When they get it right, it will be a huge gain. The S-400 supplemented with Tor and Vityaz will be awesome. The Problems with S-300/400 now is it can easily be over saturated.. besides, not exactly wise to spend a 46N6 missile on a small drone..
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                                  Originally posted by haavarla View Post
                                  Agreed. They have had problems with the Naval S-350 Redut system like for ever.. since 2009. All of a sudden they have crammed out the Vityaz..

                                  That being said, perhaps they have fielded one just for "testing" in Syria..
                                  the photo of the S-350 was in Russia, not Syria. As well, there wasn't actually confirmation as to the real issues - fire control was blamed, radar on ship was blamed, 9M96 was blamed. But nothing exact was mentioned other than some issues at Fakel plant. 9M96 is supposed to be the main missile of S-350 to my understanding. As well, according to the latest reports (which are rather old now) was that all systems onboard Gorshkov were tested accordingly and passed. Then, news went rather dark and S-350 at the testing grounds in Russia was showcased and someone claimed it was Syria which who knows.

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                                    Yes, all i'm saying is that they would have a good proving/testing ground in Syria. Russia Anti-air systems has shot down many UAV by now.
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                                      Issue of the whole thing is found in this article: http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the...-trouble-17199

                                      So the long range (150km) 9M96 failed after 3 seconds after launch. Medium range 9M96M apparently works fine, same with 9M100.

                                      According to Almaz Antey, the tests for missiles for S-350 should be completed this year:
                                      http://tass.com/defense/957013

                                      "In 2017, the systems state trials are coming to a close. Now the companys specialists are accumulating statistics for combat launches with the interception of real targets in various conditions. We are also shortly completing the state trials of three new surface-to-air missiles with active homing heads for the S-350 Vityaz systems and seaborne air defense complexes," the deputy chief executive said.

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                                        As well in that link (mobile phone doesn't let me edit for some reason)
                                        The S-350 Vityaz is a medium-range surface-to-air missile system designed for battlefield air defense. Almaz-Antey Chief Designer Pavel Sozinov earlier said that the systems trials were scheduled to be completed this year.
                                        so they won't send something to Syria before full system trials are over and its being tested by Russia. So it could appear but not till a period after 2017.

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