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  • TR1
    TR1
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    • Oct 2010
    • 9826

    BMPD has good info, that chart isn't even theirs. Just "New Years" deliveries being a little wonky, as they are in practice.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2784601.html

    Another 3 MiG-31s modernizes. Total modernized @ Sokol and the 514th ARZ is now over 110.
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    • Freddy
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      • Apr 2013
      • 276

      With the Pak Fa now having an official name Su-57 what will it's NATO (ASIC) reporting name be? Given the famous description of the Pak Fa by a Russian official before pictures of T-51 first appeared as looking like a squashed frog is there a word in the English language that means squashed frog or something similar starting with the letter "F" ? Will NATO wait and see if the Russians/Indians give the Su-57 a non Su name.

      The best two names I have read so far on another forum are Firefox and Phantom (not an actual "f" but pronounced as such). Firefox though does not actually imply stealth & phantom has already been taken. The best ASIC reporting name I can think of is Flounder, it is a flat predator fish that likes to blend in with it's environment (stealth).

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      • Scar
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        • Nov 2015
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        • haavarla
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Dec 2008
          • 6715

          Something starting with Fire.. Firebat.
          Or Fetcher, Fletcher, Farwell
          Last edited by haavarla; 13th August 2017, 08:32.
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          • Austin
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            • Oct 2003
            • 6506

            PAK-FA Myth Busting

            "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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            • Austin
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Oct 2003
              • 6506

              The number of 400 aircraft/helicopter per year also includes aircraft that gets upgraded each year all the 400 does not include new but also upgrades that take place each year.
              "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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              • Scar
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 682

                PAK-FA Myth Busting
                This video has been posted for many times and despite its title, it's just replacing one myths with another.

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                • Freddy
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 276

                  Scar #3887
                  This video has been posted for many times and despite its title, it's just replacing one myths with another.
                  "Prospective" is a key word - Scar can you think of an ASIC code word for the Su-57 that translates as prospective beginning with the letter "F" ?

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                  • Scar
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 682

                    Dunno how this is related to my post and, honestly, i don't care how it will be called by NATO.

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                    • Levsha
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 2856

                      "Prospective" is a key word - Scar can you think of an ASIC code word for the Su-57 that translates as prospective beginning with the letter "F" ?
                      The choice of ASIC code seems to be a completely random process - they usually choose the weirdest words: Faggt, Fresco, Farmer, Fishbed, etc. Do Russian aircraft still receive ASIC codes today - and who uses them?
                      Last edited by Levsha; 13th August 2017, 11:21.

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                      • ClanWarrior
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                        • Oct 2007
                        • 306

                        I will take the wait and see approach as to what the Su-57's NATO name will be, whether or not I will like it is another thing entirely.

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                        • Levsha
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                          • Jan 2006
                          • 2856

                          Myths about myths. Also some misinformation perhaps? Have we got a figure for the F-22's maximum thrust levels at full afterburner? If we don't have this figure how can we possibly calculate its thrust-to-weight figure?

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                          • Austin
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                            • Oct 2003
                            • 6506

                            I dont know if this is maximum thrust but LM site so mentions thrust of F-22 @ 15,876 kg

                            http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/pro...fications.html
                            "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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                            • Scar
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                              • Nov 2015
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                              • RadDisconnect
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                                • Jul 2013
                                • 531

                                Originally posted by Austin View Post
                                PAK-FA Myth Busting

                                One does not counter bullcrap with more bullcrap like the video is doing. This is like the third time I've seen this garbage posted.

                                Lol nonsense 384 m/s climb rate was repeated. Sources from a Facebook post. Seems legit.
                                Last edited by RadDisconnect; 14th August 2017, 06:44.

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                                • Dr.Snufflebug
                                  Boggleboople snufflebug
                                  • Aug 2012
                                  • 530

                                  Something for Ken to try one of these days. Would love to see it.



                                  Looks like it would be a painstaking masking job, except this guy (his name's Budanov so cred to him) appears to have used a sharpie or something to get the edges alright (note the variation in color)

                                  Are there any decent 1:48's out there by the way?
                                  Last edited by Dr.Snufflebug; 14th August 2017, 08:58.
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                                  • haavarla
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Dec 2008
                                    • 6715

                                    Austin@
                                    I have also seen 15.300 and 15.600kgf on the F119 engine.
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                                    • FBW
                                      FBW
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Dec 2011
                                      • 3294

                                      Regardless of what you have "seen", all the service and manufacturer has ever stated is "35,000lbs thrust class". The rest is armchair speculation.

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                                      • Berkut
                                        Senior Member
                                        • Nov 2011
                                        • 2216

                                        An F-22 pilot did slip at some point with a more precise number, about 39k lbf iirc or 17700 kgf. Thinking that F-119's are 35k lbf is laughable. They are 35k lbf class and F-22 is a Mach 2 class aircraft, and we know it goes far faster than Mach 2.00.

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                                        • haavarla
                                          Rank 5 Registered User
                                          • Dec 2008
                                          • 6715

                                          Sooooh.. the F-22 "need" 17700kgf to push above Mach 2.0 now??

                                          Need i remind people the Mig-31 engines has 15.100kgf.

                                          I'd say 17700kgf is BS.
                                          The Dynamic thrust is not the same as Static thrust, and all jet engines are measured in Static thrust.
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